YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
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For it to look better than Lego City Undercover and the other open world games on WIi U
Zelda U already looks better than this
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Is is unreasonable to complain about the new Zelda's textures?
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For it to look better than Lego City Undercover and the other open world games on WIi U
Zelda U already looks better than this
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Im not quite sure you know what technically impressive is supposed to mean. Im surprised the game looks as good as it does. Xenoblade X is 5 times the size of Japan. Im not even certain Zelda U is as big as Xenoblade on the Wii is.
Xenoblade is low res but the game is fucking gorgeous in motion . What they did on the Wii was amazing. That was a technical feat. I preferred the art direction for Xenoblade anyway. Brighter colors. This is much more muted, besides when weather effects are working off the flowers.God I wish Nintendo would release Xenoblade in HD with the Last Story(gamepad controls and framerate increase) and Pandora's Tower (Wii Motion + Support added)
Sure the texture quality isnt as good as say FF15 looks close up, but we all know that FF15's visual fall apart when you bring the camera out and you see all the pop in and the low draw distance ( which doesnt look that nice in the backgrounds. Reminds me of how things loaded in Xenoblade on the Wii actually, but at least that happened to be the same color as the textures right next to them. With FF15 the color in the backgrounds is all screwed up)
So I wouldnt say that's technically impressive either. Because its not. The engine doesnt run well.
The Witcher 3 is technically impressive. Thats a game that merges great art with new tech.
Uncharted 4 is a full year away. MGSV footage from E3 is likely "full year away" footage.
Aounuma talking up the graphics in interviews shortly before they were shown at the TGAs have done him no favours. A simple "Please remember guys this footage is from an earlier build of the game, and the graphics have improved since" disclaimer at the beginning of the demo would have deflected any complaints. But it seems like Zelda Wii U, bad textures and all, are the graphics that Aounuma was talking up not to long ago.
Aounuma talking up the graphics in interviews shortly before they were shown at the TGAs have done him no favours. A simple "Please remember guys this footage is from an earlier build of the game, and the graphics have improved since" disclaimer at the beginning of the demo would have deflected any complaints. But it seems like Zelda Wii U, bad textures and all, are the graphics that Aounuma was talking up not to long ago.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Yeah, but people arent having meltdowns over Uncharted 4 not looking as mind blowing as people expected right? Or are they ?
You know they wouldnt have shown the game then.
I also didn't like the texture work in the second game they showed.
I zoomed and enhanced the footage for you. Just look at this shit.
The ground textures are PS2-level crap. Embarrassing. Somebody should start a Twitter tag.
Man, what game is that? It does look like crap.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
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TheRedSnifit
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I also didn't like the texture work in the second game they showed.
I zoomed and enhanced the footage for you. Just look at this shit.
The ground textures are PS2-level crap. Embarrassing. Somebody should start a Twitter tag.
Somebody, somewhere, is having a meltdown over this post.
They probably assumed that people would have at least a passing knowledge of how these things work. They should've taken the more cynical route like Naughty Dog and, instead of showing gameplay, a cutscene of Link's face tailored specifically to look as good as possible. Though even NG got too optimistic and now has people whining about their gameplay trailer.
not_so_special
Banned
i remember on the wii generation one of the arguments used was "graphics don matter" yeah XD
Orniletter
Banned
What they should have done instead, because people...apperently...don't understand how game development works and will jump through hoops to shit on a literally unfinished game and compare low quality YouTube grabs to directly captured GTAV shots:
Don't show it at all.
Their honesty has bitten them in the ass. This is precisely why Yves Guillemot fools you with open contempt and bullshit lie trailers.
Edit: The same for Uncharted 4, thats a year away too.
Don't show it at all.
Their honesty has bitten them in the ass. This is precisely why Yves Guillemot fools you with open contempt and bullshit lie trailers.
Edit: The same for Uncharted 4, thats a year away too.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
That's a stupid nebulous statement to begin with. They're video games.
The visual style definitely matters. Everything else? Nah not really.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Its only temporary really. We internet posters just have to deal with the bullshit till we get the 3D world trailer. Or you know the game comes out and everyone gets served steaming pile of crow.
You'd think they'd learn by now but well they dont.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
But seriously if you complain 24/7 then you're just a bitch
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Yeah, it's fine if people complain, and I hope those opinions get back to Nintendo. If everyone just said "It looks great! Don't change a thing!" then they might not fix anything. But the people who say "This game will absolutely look this bad at release a year from now" are just pointlessly trolling.
OmegaDL50
Member
Well I'm glad someone addressed this.
Anyone else noticed that the character and models didn't really fit into the world?
My impression was that the terrain itself simply wasn't cel-shaded enough, that would also hide some muddy textures.
Who knows, maybe it wasn't enabled in this demo build, considering the E3 visuals looked slightly different.
My impression was that the terrain itself simply wasn't cel-shaded enough, that would also hide some muddy textures.
Who knows, maybe it wasn't enabled in this demo build, considering the E3 visuals looked slightly different.
Dorsal Axe
Member
People can criticise whatever they want. Personally, I think some people care way too much about friggin rocks in a clearly unfinished area of a game that's a year away from release. And low-quality off screen footage of aforementioned rocks, no less. Hell we don't what what build this is, or when the footage was even recorded.
There's nothing wrong with saying "hey, these textures look shit". What is unreasonable is some of the absurd judgements some people have made about the final carnation of this game, which doesn't even exist yet.
Like, there are plenty of legitimate concerns to have about the game, but people instead dwell on this. GAF does make me laugh sometimes.
There's nothing wrong with saying "hey, these textures look shit". What is unreasonable is some of the absurd judgements some people have made about the final carnation of this game, which doesn't even exist yet.
Like, there are plenty of legitimate concerns to have about the game, but people instead dwell on this. GAF does make me laugh sometimes.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
Good lord. Now I know why companies show all-CGI trailers.
It's at least a year away. If it looks terrible then, complain all you want. Most everyone will join you. Until then, just make a mental note of it.
It's at least a year away. If it looks terrible then, complain all you want. Most everyone will join you. Until then, just make a mental note of it.
DaSorcerer7
Member
Pretty much sums up my thoughts on this.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
We dont even know what the game fucking looks like man
Developers are people. If something looks bad they fucking know it. They dont need a bunch of people sending them a bunch of messages.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I'm more concerned about their interpretation of a "densely wooded area".
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Nobody has the faintest idea what you''re reffering too. they couldnt see anything over the sunset's bloom
Marky Mark
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One other thing I scoffed at was a comment about being in "thick woodlands" and there were about three trees on screen. The textures were pretty horrible but I thought it was just me.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Go get a screenshot.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
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OminoMichelin
Member
Fixed :3
Marky Mark
Member
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;142324972 said:
"Three" was hyperbole but tell me with an honest face that the above is "thick" woodland.
OminoMichelin
Member
I'm 90% positive that this game will be 30 fps. I can't imagine it being anything else than that.
heh
"Three" was hyperbole but tell me with an honest face that the above is "thick" woodland.
That gif reminds me a lot of Kameo:
More games should have such grass.
You don't know what "technically impressive" means. High resolution textures and detailed models are not technically impressive. Working around limitations is.
Are any of the videos 60fps? Could you count frames from the last video?
"Three" was hyperbole but tell me with an honest face that the above is "thick" woodland.
The. Game. Is. A. Year. Away.
Yes and no
Yes, because the game is still in development and one year away.
And no because we can still point out things looking weird.
For instance, RDR was first shown 6 months before release and nothing looked off.
Zelda is 12 months before release but with the dungeons probably taking a lot of time to make, we can be sceptical about if they'll managed to fix smaller details like rock textures (Particularly the connection between grass and rock at the bottom of a cliff (looks flat and unnatural) and the trees being too similar looking and separated by the exact same distance)
Yes, because the game is still in development and one year away.
And no because we can still point out things looking weird.
For instance, RDR was first shown 6 months before release and nothing looked off.
Zelda is 12 months before release but with the dungeons probably taking a lot of time to make, we can be sceptical about if they'll managed to fix smaller details like rock textures (Particularly the connection between grass and rock at the bottom of a cliff (looks flat and unnatural) and the trees being too similar looking and separated by the exact same distance)
OminoMichelin
Member
I'm just guesstimating. Given the scope of the game, 30fps seems like the more reasonable option. It being 60fps would be a nice surprise for me (and not just me).
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
"Three" was hyperbole but tell me with an honest face that the above is "thick" woodland.
I dont see texture issues here
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
Banned
Its 1080p so Im guessing 30fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW1fu4DBMoU
At that point, the game was 1.5 years away and the textures didn't improve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dYgrMz_XBI
At that point, Skyward Sword was 1.5 years away from release. Did the graphics improve? Not noticeably.
If the last 3 Zelda console games are any indication, then it's that this year's footage provides a good hint at what the final game will look like.
Q
qizah
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Obviously it's reasonable.
Low textures are going to ruin the game entirely and make it bad, so they better fix it, or else.
Low textures are going to ruin the game entirely and make it bad, so they better fix it, or else.
TheDarkTriforce
Banned
Seriously? You discuss the quality of textures from a gameplay video which was miles away from the camera? In my opinion this is absolutely pointless
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