sixteen-bit
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I doubt they'd make a 4 minute TV spot. You probably saw it on TV via your console, downloaded off Marketplace or NetworkYoshichan said:
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Is it strange Bayonetta outsold Vanquish?
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badcrumble
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Vanquish has tremendously well-designed gameplay but there's not that much content compared to Bayonetta, which is bizarre coming after Resident Evil 4 which felt like a whole new frontier in densely packed single-player content. I love the game, but it should've had new game+, should've had an infinite-waves-of-enemies survival mode, et cetera.
One of the things I really liked about Bayonetta was that original reveal they did where she jumps on that bit of building and fights the statues then the camera zooms in somewhere rather um questionable. The song in that is amazing. Does anybody know the name of the song? I still can't find it :/
I think it's a matter of competition. Bayonetta entered into a genre that isn't widely exploited, in a month without much competition. Vanquish is an entry into a pretty heavily serviced genre together in a few months jam packed with shooters of all sorts (Halo, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, even Quantum Theory). Without significant exposure, nobody paid attention.
It's a real shame. Vanquish makes every other shooter on the market seem clunky.
It's a real shame. Vanquish makes every other shooter on the market seem clunky.
Crash Station
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Bayonetta redefined the entire genre. Vanquish didn't (or at least it wasn't as clear about it).
rollingstart
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Rahxephon91 said:
that's better than what I thought it would be
I expected another "she kicks high" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jfzh2s3jlE)
Rahxephon91
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That ad is amazing.Linkzg said:
digita1alchemy
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What else came out around the same time as Bayonetta? Vanquish has some heavy hitters as competition.
rollingstart
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digita1alchemy said:
Darksiders came out on the say day I think
Anticitizen One
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Platinum needs to make games that are more mainstream. Bayonetta was too wierd and vanquish looked like a ripoff of a bunch of american games. The reason Resident Evil, DMC, and all these other japenese games took off is because they had a great balance of gameplay, action, story, memorable charecters, etc.
a Master Ninja
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This post is bad and you should feel bad.Anticitizen One said:
Sir Ilpalazzo
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Finaika said:
It depends on how interested you are in Bayonetta. I think it's the best game this generation even though I have a PS3, but the port is really, really terrible. It's still fun most of the time, but some parts are just unplayable, and high-level play is more difficult on the PS3 version.
If you really want to play the game, then definitely go for it - you'll probably still enjoy it. If you're on the fence, I wouldn't.
a Master Ninja
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The ridiculous load times were reduced. Performance is otherwise still assy.Yoshichan said:
Augemitbutter
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Finaika said:
buy it. it was patched for faster loading so differences aren't huge anymore. better sound on ps3 if you can appreciate that and have a nice setup.
in my case, i think the widely spread ' 4 hours campaign with no multi player thus does not worth the price' a few days before Vanquish's release crap hurts it so damn bad. Out of 10 people I've asked, 9 of them didn't get it for that reason. the only one who bought it being me. 
NemesisPrime
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Double post... ignore
NemesisPrime
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CartridgeBlower said:
I would say that Vanquish was too Western by design and really cannot compete with the real Western "space marine" games (Halo for example). I liked the demo, but TBH, couldn't be bothered to buy another space ranger vs giant robots game. I got Bayonetta because it was different (and a bit sexy as well
kobashi100
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jvalioli said:
this is the reason. Vanquish has been released with no marketing at all.
Rahxephon91
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I don't know. Vanquish feels and looks very Japanese to me.
Just asked a couple of guys around the office. I'd never heard of it, one had but didn't know anything about it, and the third reads everything apparently so he explained to us what it was about.
Again, not trolling, I'd never heard of it. I just clicked this thread to see why some random game was being compared to Bayonetta.
Again, not trolling, I'd never heard of it. I just clicked this thread to see why some random game was being compared to Bayonetta.
Yes, it's a bit surprising for me. Bayonetta is very bizarre for an action game (I heard a lot of people complaining because of the female lead!), while Vanquish is closer to what western audience expects to see in a shooter. Maybe too close, but if stuff like Kane & Lynch can reach 1 million, I thought that even Vanquish could.
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bone_and_sinew
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I bought Bayonetta day 1. It's Kamiya, the king of action throne was empty this gen, etc...
Shit, I spent like 90 hours in DMC4 and it was somewhat of a disappointment. I just knew I'd be getting at least 100 hours out of Bayonetta before I bought it.
With Vanquish, once I heard there was no New Game+, that was a major turn off. It killed all the hype I had for it. I'll buy it someday but no more than $30.
Shit, I spent like 90 hours in DMC4 and it was somewhat of a disappointment. I just knew I'd be getting at least 100 hours out of Bayonetta before I bought it.
With Vanquish, once I heard there was no New Game+, that was a major turn off. It killed all the hype I had for it. I'll buy it someday but no more than $30.
Seraphis Cain
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Sorry, I was going to post something, but I got distracted by that Bayonetta gif...for about five minutes...
*ahem* Anyway, yeah...oh yeah, now I remember!
It's strange when ANYTHING outsells Vanquish. Because it's Vanquish.
*ahem* Anyway, yeah...oh yeah, now I remember!
It's strange when ANYTHING outsells Vanquish. Because it's Vanquish.
jump_button
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boobs sell who knew?
Wait a second,
What is the context of this discussion?
Bayonetta LTD is higher than Vanquish? Well it's been out for an extra 9 months?
Bayonetta sold better than Vanquish in the same time period? How do we know, didn't Vanquish come out Oct. 22 less than a month ago?
Where are the numbers? Is it a drastic difference? Are we jumping to conclusions?
What is the context of this discussion?
Bayonetta LTD is higher than Vanquish? Well it's been out for an extra 9 months?
Bayonetta sold better than Vanquish in the same time period? How do we know, didn't Vanquish come out Oct. 22 less than a month ago?
Where are the numbers? Is it a drastic difference? Are we jumping to conclusions?
NemesisPrime
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Monocle said:
Dear god... there goes my concentration for the rest of the day. I better get some coffee NOW!
chriskun
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Baki said:
I would say this pretty much nails it, a shooter without MP or any RPG elements ala Bioshock is not going to sell today. Hideki Kamiya has much more of a presence and fanbase than Shinji Mikami also. people know that Kamiya knows how to make an action game. Vanquish is sort of uncharted territory for Mikami, he hasn't made a game too similar. I think all the hub bub about vanquish's length has also hurt it, im sort of holding off because of it.
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I think we can assume that all the people who know the name Kamiya also know the name Mikami, so let's just assume that developer awareness was a total non-factor in the sales of these vidya games.