Pretty demanding games, yes, but not PS5 games, and not PS4 games. It can run PC games. So if Sony were to sell a handheld PlayStation that plays PS4 games, it would have to be hardware that can run every game. The amount of work that went into Steam Deck compatibility is tremendous and still ongoing and that is an open platform. Sony can’t go and retroactively patch every PS4 game.Well, you've just answered your own question. The Stream Deck has already shown that we're capable of having powerful enough handhelds to run pretty demanding games in a little screen.
You literally hold them in your hands. They work exactly like handhelds except for input. But there are tons of external input options for phones and tablets. Plus they're the top devices people currently use to play games on the go. And most modern smartphones have no trouble rendering 3D video game graphics.Phones and tablets are absolutely another beast, quite different from handhelds.
Not worth losing focus on the console market and exclusives going to the new portable.Steam Deck is already running all current games. But yes, totally I could see that bullshit discourse.
What? What's that mean? Any argument? Anything to add to the discussion or just drive by posts?
Well, seems like you put your own subjective view to an objective one. Like I'd you don't like multiplayer and GaaS games it's ok, but you cannot deny that's what most people are looking for.
Well, you've just answered your own question. The Stream Deck has already shown that we're capable of having powerful enough handhelds to run pretty demanding games in a little screen.
Phones and tablets are absolutely another beast, quite different from handhelds.
Why? The Stream Deck already showed that new handhelds can bring new stuff to the table.
How old are you OP?
Ok guys, I'm reporting your posts. I'm not a guy that usually report posts because I just don't want to bother mods with meaningless stuff. But your posts are just drive by troll posts that don't add anything to the discussion, just pure trolling stuff.You crazy:
Mobile market (smartphones) is not the same as the (handheld) consoles market. As well as I said, these consoles can work as streaming devices.Probably not... the future for both Sony and MS are prob just supporting other companies mobile/stream devices
Not the same by a mile.No need when you have Xbox Cloud and smartphones
Switch and Steam Deck already 'compete' (totally different markets) with those stores and they do really good. I don't know why people mix console market with mobile market. Totally different beasts that could touch just tangencially with handhelds.No it’s a highly competitive market. You are basically competing against mobile/tablets and Switch. Yeah it’s a waste of resourses imo. Also to even have a small chance they need to go in 100% not half ass it like they usually do. They need content to compete with App Store, Play store and Nintendo, so yeah got luck with that…
Looking at you VITA.
Steam Deck already has an SSD...I’d only be interested if Sony were to release a handheld with a hard drive, but it would need to be an SSD, so not sure how feasible that would be!
I'm sorry, what? You're just trolling or?You intentionally made that poll with those options to get a middle finger sticking up shape, didn't you?
Switch and Deck have already proven the market is not niche at all.A supplemental handheld device for the PlayStation/Xbox ecosystems would be incredibly niche, just like the Steam Deck is.
Why do you think would be a waste of time?Would be the most gigantic waste of time in the industry. Even Sony's VR punt is a better idea.
Microsoft should be working with Valve on native Game Pass app integration with SteamOS. Sony's games are already coming to Steam individually.
Do you think the astonishing Switch sales numbers are 'niche'?There is no dedicated handheld gaming market. There's the Nintendo Switch niche market and there's the mobile phone gaming market. Microsoft and Sony would rather focus on the latter.
It's not 2001 anymore. That ship has sailed. Give it up. No more on this.
Of course i put my subjective angle, my mind is still not a communist place, why i should be happy for something that i don't care about and that is gonna actively damage the output of some studios for the games i actually care about?Steam Deck is already running all current games. But yes, totally I could see that bullshit discourse.
What? What's that mean? Any argument? Anything to add to the discussion or just drive by posts?
Well, seems like you put your own subjective view to an objective one. Like I'd you don't like multiplayer and GaaS games it's ok, but you cannot deny that's what most people are looking for.
Well, you've just answered your own question. The Stream Deck has already shown that we're capable of having powerful enough handhelds to run pretty demanding games in a little screen.
Phones and tablets are absolutely another beast, quite different from handhelds.
Why? The Stream Deck already showed that new handhelds can bring new stuff to the table.
Argument please.
I'm talking about competence and options rather than looking for my best subjective option. I know the existence of the Deck, I mention it several times in the OP, no need to act cocky.Console hardware is typically a low/negative margin business especially when R&D is factored in. It's better that these companies keep it simple and focus the remainder of their resources on creating more games.
If you are desperate for a handheld console that plays all the games that appear on these consoles then I've already mentioned a solution.
No it's not. No need for the drive by gif, thanks.Is this a joke?
Why do you think would be a waste of time?
This right here is pretty interesting because I remember people saying the exact same when the Deck was announced. All the likes of "Switch already has taken all that market, this will be DoA".I don't think either will try the handheld market. Switch & Steam deck got it all sewn up.
Anything to add or just drive by without any argument whatsoever? What does your post mean?phones
Far from being the only handheld PC.Steam Deck cannot cover demand yet.
Totally didn't think of hybrid-like. However the Switch has shown how little people care for a dock when going for a handheld.i expect Microsoft to make an hybrid console like the Switch
I didn't say that?Far from being the only handheld PC.
No it's not. No need for the drive by gif, thanks.
This right here is pretty interesting because I remember people saying the exact same when the Deck was announced. All the likes of "Switch already has taken all that market, this will be DoA".
Goes to show how we understimate the market.
The Steam Deck looks like a cool device, but also a little unwieldy to me. I can’t imagine Sony being able to produced a handheld console as sleek as the PS Vita with all the gubbins needed in todays market - and that is the only way that I would be attracted to the idea.Ok guys, I'm reporting your posts. I'm not a guy that usually report posts because I just don't want to bother mods with meaningless stuff. But your posts are just drive by troll posts that don't add anything to the discussion, just pure trolling stuff.
Mobile market (smartphones) is not the same as the (handheld) consoles market. As well as I said, these consoles can work as streaming devices.
Not the same by a mile.
Switch and Steam Deck already 'compete' (totally different markets) with those stores and they do really good. I don't know why people mix console market with mobile market. Totally different beasts that could touch just tangencially with handhelds.
Steam Deck already has an SSD...
I'm sorry, what? You're just trolling or?
Switch and Deck have already proven the market is not niche at all.
Why do you think would be a waste of time?
Do you think the astonishing Switch sales numbers are 'niche'?
I'm talking about handheld consoles, which is quite different from mobile market.
Keystone has been shelved thoughMICROSOFT: No portable; focus on Project Keystone as cheap(ish) game streaming device. High-quality AV1 decode hardware built-in, push it as an Apple TV alternative, bundled with a universal remote. Wifi 6 and ethernet built-in.
I play it my smart phone in work with a Pad and I enjoy it far more than the Switch tbhNot the same by a mile.
So, demand is not a problem.I didn't say that?
No one ever said that they would make a handle-held platform. The argument was about a Xbox One or Series S portable edition. Thats just a handle-held version of existing home consoles.The MS struggles to put out a steady stream of competent games for their home console and you think they'll be able to fully support a home console and mobile platform simultaneously?
No one ever said that they would make a handle-held platform. The argument was about a Xbox One or Series S portable edition. Thats just a handle-held version of existing home consoles.
Yeah yeah MS bad evil. They already have been making tablets with x86 hardware for a decade. And this portable Xbox discussion is bought up because it has been rumoured to be an internal prototype for a long time.MS is not even capable of doing this right; based on their own comments on the lack of their ability to invest in both software and hardware at the same time with X1X.
Believe me my question is on topic. Sony will after the PSP and Vita never ever touch handhelds again. And MS always sayed they have no interest. Thats why i asked how old you are maybe youre simply to young to remember this. Thx for the report, good thing this isnt EraOk guys, I'm reporting your posts. I'm not a guy that usually report posts because I just don't want to bother mods with meaningless stuff. But your posts are just drive by troll posts that don't add anything to the discussion, just pure trolling stuff.
Mobile market (smartphones) is not the same as the (handheld) consoles market. As well as I said, these consoles can work as streaming devices.
Not the same by a mile.
Switch and Steam Deck already 'compete' (totally different markets) with those stores and they do really good. I don't know why people mix console market with mobile market. Totally different beasts that could touch just tangencially with handhelds.
Steam Deck already has an SSD...
I'm sorry, what? You're just trolling or?
Switch and Deck have already proven the market is not niche at all.
Why do you think would be a waste of time?
Do you think the astonishing Switch sales numbers are 'niche'?