MDSLKTR
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kotaku and japan sales, maybe you should have used the npd numbers but that would have been irrelevant to this thread right?
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kotaku and japan sales, maybe you should have used the npd numbers but that would have been irrelevant to this thread right?
chickdigger802
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Well... There has been a CoD on ds every year for a while and those didn't really sale hardware I think.
I guess it's all about how they market it.
These kind of posts are really tiring... it's like I'm reading the same thread over and over, every topic (except the OT) of Vita news.
The DS has dual sticks like a console?
JoshuaJSlone
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That would be mean, though; Vita's first couple months compared better to PSP in Japan.
No, but they have have the CoD.
chickdigger802
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Does that even matter? CoD zombies sold really well on ios and that got no buttons!
It's all about marketing. How many people can even tell the difference between a vita and psp on a commercial?
Did I say something that was factually incorrect?
Yes it does matter. You can't just sell COD on the name alone so it goes beyond marketing. If this Vita COD is truly COD on the go, offering the same tossed in with unique features .. it'll sell.
It's not just about the name, rather, the game itself. The Call of Duty games on DS were absolutely nothing like the console games.
The idea here is that they could release Call of Duty on the Vita that is very much on par with the actual console releases complete with full-on multiplayer.
Not a huge deal to me, but it might have potential to help sales.
I can't see a CoD on Vita doing well, or pushing console sales. Particularly because it'd be a big investment (hardware + game) and the MP will probably require WiFi, thus effectively tethering it to the house for most audiences (in which case they would more than likely play on console).
Marketing certainly matters...and Sony sucks at it.
Not everyone is blind though. I got rid of my PS3 in '07...haven't missed it since. Sony make some stupid mistakes, I skipped the PSP...no second stick. I haven't bought a handheld since the GBA, but I did buy a Vita. It's literally a console that you can carry with you...Sony needs to drive that home.
Everyone I've shown my Vita to wants one now, especially when I show them gameplay of The Show.
I also have an iPhone and have never seen "CoD zombies....guess I'll check it out. I MUCH, MUCH, MUCH prefer my Vita to my iPhone now though. I don't even touch my phone or tablets for gaming now.
Call of Duty for the Vita has been announced...I look forward to seeing what they do for it.
chickdigger802
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Haha funny enough my vita hadn't left my room yet. I have 3ds in the bag for street passes and I game on my iPhone on commute because it's convenient.
Actually. I rarely game... Gaf mobile has killed portable gaming on the go for me
Actually. I rarely game... Gaf mobile has killed portable gaming on the go for me
We'll know for sure if Vita has any support after E3 and TGS. Until then .. speculate away. One thing though .. the games that are out now do not take much advantage of Vita's specs. For example, F1 2011 does not even use the touch screen for menus. Give it some time folks. If it fails .. it fails. I will hold out of my purchase until after E3.
Mammoth Jones
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Jesus, it's been a month. Give the console time to gain some steam.
dreamer3kx
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People want this thing so dead, its a shame because its a awesome piece of hardware with a ton of potential, Sony doesnt know how to market to the casual gamer.
OldJadedGamer
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Vita released 4 months ago.
michaelius
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So how is it possible that noone noticed Hatsune Miku game for Vita that suddenly appeared for release in summer ? 
But it is not.
The CURRENT state has not a damned thing to do with its gaming division and people said almost word for word everything they are saying about the Vita about the PS3.
The Vita will be quite fine, and it will grow into itself.
In fact, the fact that Sony is refocusing on its gaming division as a priority should make it an even safer bet the the Vita will be fine.
njean777
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Doomsayers have no time for logic. 2 months on the NA launch and most people are saying it is dead. Keep on keeping on doomgaf.
It released in NA February 22. Less than 2 Months ago.
It released in Japan in December.
Lord Panda
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Sony should task thatgamecompany and pixeljunk to pump out some Vita titles. I'd give my left nipple for The Journey Vita or PixelJunk Shooter Vita. Come on Sony!
Those one are obvious, Sony is not really allowed to not even rely on its own strengh.. I don't get why i'm not playing Journey on my Vita right now, it should have been a simultaneous release.
SolsticeZero
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Agreed. Journey on the Vita would be amazing. So would Flow and Flower.
dacuk
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Nah, just wait for a price drop, as I am.
OldJadedGamer
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Um, Skype App is coming soon--does that help?
but where is youtube
Blue Submarine No. 6
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This.
Honestly, Sony has a long corporate history of NOT abandonning it's hardware... Vita is here for the long haul. All this wailing and hair pulling and gnashing of teeth won't change the fact that three years from now, I'll be playing great new games on my Vita
while doomGAF continues to decry a lack of games or hardware revision or a 3G 64-Player Multiplayer FPS or whatever gets their panties in a knot that week
chickdigger802
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Or buy used off eBay. A lot of decent packages for good prices.
Just got a barely used wifi vita + case+stand + 32 gb card for $250.
mescalineeyes
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I am fairly certain nipples are not something Sony is after.
That may depend on the quality of the nipple.
For what it's worth...I picked up a Vita a couple of weeks ago and have really been enjoying it.
All of this doom and gloom seems eerily familiar. Seems like 2007 all over again with the PS3. Anyway, we've seen several projects announced recently for the Vita, so I doubt that support for it is drying up.
Jugendstil
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Yup. I just got a 3G/wifi with 4 games, a case and 32GB card for $375. Not too shabby.
H_Prestige
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For it to be a successful venture, they have to recoup the entire R&D for the project and then some. I don't see that happening.
michaelius
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Probably small loss on wi-fi only, profit on 3g model, huge profit on memory cards.
Ehh personally i'd still give it until atleast after the big 3 conferences for the year, even more so now that Sony has stated plans to further focus on their gaming division. It's going to take some time for Kaz to really get into a groove as the new CEO, but i'd like to have some faith in him as he's always seemed pretty consumer minded (more so than other Sony's top brass), and with the Vita being his first new console launch I don't see him readily abandoning it.
Currently right now there is a bunch of stuff coming, some of the releases may not appeal to everyone, but that does not mean those releases do not exsist, the one major issue I see is getting dates on some of these games, and yes they need something that could be dubbed a "system seller". I'm not sure it's easy to speculate on what may or may not be a system seller because we just don't know something like that.
I would not have seen Angry Birds blowing up the way it did, or MoHun, or a few other games that have in recent memory. So in this aspect anything is possible imo.
Currently right now there is a bunch of stuff coming, some of the releases may not appeal to everyone, but that does not mean those releases do not exsist, the one major issue I see is getting dates on some of these games, and yes they need something that could be dubbed a "system seller". I'm not sure it's easy to speculate on what may or may not be a system seller because we just don't know something like that.
I would not have seen Angry Birds blowing up the way it did, or MoHun, or a few other games that have in recent memory. So in this aspect anything is possible imo.
Not including packaging, I read reports of BOM stating the cost of building a Wifi model is around $160. But as aforementioned, this may be a very accurate speculation, but a speculation nonetheless. Also, packaging costs were not included, although, I'd think it won't add another $90 to it. So it looks like even on Wi-Fi they're making money.
But yea, a ton of profit comes from memory cards and if Sony wants to accelerate sales without killer app then they'd need to drop the price of the vita as well as the proprietary memory no later than E3 2012.
What? They cut unprofitable sectors within the company all the time. TVs and Games more or less became the face of their company so they're having a hard time cutting them is all, for better or for worse.
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I thought that is only going to work over Wi-Fi? Like the iPad's Skype app.
Dreams-Visions
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It's easy to wait since there aren't any must-have games out to make people say, "fuck it" and buy the thing already.
Yeah that never showed up in a Sony thread before, good show.
What's next, giant crabs? I hear that is original these days.
Edit: Safe to say that people will have their opinions and nothing will change them as long as it fits what they want to believe or their need for dramatics.
Thread is pretty much a joke now.
TheDrowningMan
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I'm worried, I admit. With that said, I think it's a great console, and if it lives three years and has what one might deem 'GameCube Level' third party support and is an ongoing concern for Sony's own teams, it'll be worth it.
I hope it can sell 20-30m to at least be a moderate success. I can't see Sony expecting much more given the competition and its price point. I get the impression they always expected it to be a relative niche product.
I hope it can sell 20-30m to at least be a moderate success. I can't see Sony expecting much more given the competition and its price point. I get the impression they always expected it to be a relative niche product.
chickdigger802
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Well. It also needs GameCube lvl of first party.
God would I love some wind waker like game. That shit would pop on the screen.
Gravity rush as a nice look. Need to get that.
I agree with you.
I think that the fact though the strong rumors have suggested integration between the vita and the next gen playstation also show that they will not be neglecting it.
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