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[guek]

Well Uncharted was considered a "major game" too, but it's sales haven't been earth shattering in the least. In all fairness though, the exact same thing can be said about RE:R.

It's going to be incredibly important that whatever major games that are in the pipeline are well suited for the portable market. Or at the very least very well marketed.

 

[iceatcs]

Why does it matter who posted it? Exceedingly poor software sales are a legit point to bring up here.

Also: How are things with your cochlear implant going? I remember from an old thread that you were getting a better/more advanced one or something.

Well it is totally postbomb. I want his though and point of view. Someone would done better than this one.


Anyway, going to off-topic. I don't want to discuss more of personal thing (on internet is bad idea. Lot of horrible PMs like about my English and deafness), it went okay but thanks for asking.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Well Uncharted was considered a "major game" too, but it's sales haven't been earth shattering in the least. In all fairness though, the exact same thing can be said about RE:R.

It's going to be incredibly important that whatever major games that are in the pipeline are well suited for the portable market. Or at the very least very well marketed.

People are Uncharted the fuck out, I know I am

I'm up to chapter 15, and stopped, cause I was like Oh Fuck not this shit again, then realizing I have 21 more chapters to go

I've played 1, 2, 3, and the MP parts for 2 & 3

Hell God of War IV inklings are making the rumor mill rounds, but I'm already going as much as I love the series, it needs a rest for another year or two, just to be fresh
Within GOW III's release, I've played I & II HD, then 6-8 months later, the PSP Origins Collection in HD with COO & GOS

 

[fluffydelusions]

I know Sony will announce some Vita games at E3 but I hope they put some release dates on them. I'm tired of Sony announcing games years before they come out.

 

[darkwing]

Lumines Producer: Major Vita Games in the Works

probably waiting for TGS, meanwhile sales going to breach the 5k barrier

 

[Oppo]

Why does it matter who posted it? Exceedingly poor software sales are a legit point to bring up here.

It doesn't, other than just being annoyingly predictable. Guy sings one note all day.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Nintendo does what Sony don't?

Nintendo has a knack for repackaging their franchises in a well timed manner to the point that people will pick them up because enough time has passed between releases. OoT is also arguably the greatest game of all time...that helps.

It also helps to have a fanbase that will lap up any cut and paste job you throw at them.

 

[michaelius]

probably waiting for TGS, meanwhile sales going to breach the 5k barrier

In Japan ?

When ?

we have golden week soon which will boost sales then we actually have semi-big title with Persona 4 in June and for summer there's still Hatsune Miku and possibly falcom LoH

 

[A Twisty Fluken]

It also helps to have a fanbase that will lap up any cut and paste job you throw at them.

Man, I can taste the bitter seeping off this post.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

It also helps to have a fanbase that will lap up any cut and paste job you throw at them.

:lol

 

[darkwing]

In Japan ?

When ?

we have golden week soon which will boost sales then we actually have semi-big title with Persona 4 in June and for summer there's still Hatsune Miku and possibly falcom LoH

how many system selling games are like that before TGS?

 

[michaelius]

I knew it wouldn't take very long for that pic to pop up in this thread.

Yep amazing tool for fanboy war when posted in vaccum and withou analysis of what titles were released in those period and how they appeal to mainstream gamers in japan.

how many system selling games are like that before TGS?

I just named 3 of them ?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

if only sales came based on quality games, though. that hasnt been the case for a long time in this industry.

If it did, PSV would be outselling milk, since it has a Wipeout game.

 

[Jburton]

It also helps to have a fanbase that will lap up any cut and paste job you throw at them.

The salty tear content in this post is through the roof.

I owned a Vita, ditched it until I see how it picks up in terms of games ...... at the moment it does not look very good.

When Sony gets a bunch of new games together they will technically have to relaunch the system.

Bought a 3DS (first nintendo console since the N64) and I am having fun.

Hope the Vita survivies, it has potential .. vast potential.

 

[Somnid]

It also helps to have a fanbase that will lap up any cut and paste job you throw at them.

we have golden week soon which will boost sales then we actually have semi-big title with Persona 4 in June and for summer there's still Hatsune Miku and possibly falcom LoH

ShinUltraManJ inadvertently destroyed by a pro-Vita post.

 

[theBishop]

if only sales came based on quality games, though. that hasnt been the case for a long time in this industry.

Meh. No entertainment industry is driven by quality. I don't know why enthusiasts get worked up about it. Go take a look at the top ten Box Office for the last few months. Is #1 the best film? Is a good film even in the top 10? Sales are driven by marketing and brand awareness.

Enjoy what you enjoy.

 

[saichi]

I just named 3 of them ?

You named 3 titles that will not sell more than 200K as system selling software... that's a really low bar. Besides, we have a little under 5 months until TGS and VITA is gonna rely on 3 sub-200K games to sell the systems. Got it...

ShinUltraManJ inadvertently destroyed by a pro-Vita post.

funny

 

[Fabrik]

Lumines Producer: Major Vita Games in the Works

Riiiight. I'll believe when I see it. This guy has an agenda. And so do I!

 

[Oni Jazar]

This thread needs to die.

 

[Mario007]

Riiiight. I'll believe when I see it. This guy has an agenda. And so do I!

Of course he has an agenda, I'm even 100% certain that Sony paid him to say all that. And if another guy comes out and says that he knows about a lot of games being worked on for Vita I'm sure he'll have an agenda too, never mind that first details about Souls Sacrifice came out today and people seem to be pretty excited over that one already.

Spoiler

/s

 

[sajj316]

This thread needs to die.

Amen! I believe in the long term viability of Vita. I believe in Kaz. Save us Y2Kaz

 

[mangaroo]

If it did, PSV would be outselling milk, since it has a Wipeout game.

QFT. Honestly, if you need an experience that is both addictively challenging and just immense in quality then all you need is wipeout. I recommend Lumines when you want a break. These two games are so replayable if you enjoy them which is really easy to do that they will last you through the years of the Vita till their sequels come out. I'm sure MGS and some other titles coming out will be nice fillers and I undoubtedly expect some amazing titles to be coming (especially a motorstorm sequel (not rc, which is decent) but like the PS3, it will just take time I'm afraid. Not to beat a dead horse but a real shame about JSR though...do twitter sega(?) about that. [Just got Dota 2 invite so can't continue train of thought properly anymore].

 

[Pureauthor]

This thread needs to die.

People are not going to magically stop discussing the Vita's poor sales if this thread vanishes, you know. The alternative is to have a constant stream of little Vita threads for every new bit of bad news.

 

[Father_Brain]

Lumines Producer: Major Vita Games in the Works

I have no trouble believing that Mielke is aware of a number of unannounced Vita titles, and that he believes that these titles will be sufficient to turn the platform's fortunes around. I do, however, have trouble believing that Mielke is correct in that belief. We'll see whenever the announcements come.

Also, people are "imagining" issues with Vita? That's, um, an interesting choice of words.

 

[SmokyDave]

People are not going to magically stop discussing the Vita's poor sales if this thread vanishes, you know. The alternative is to have a constant stream of little Vita threads for every new bit of bad news.

TBH, as a Vita owner, I have no problem with this thread. The unit evidently has issues with support and sales and it's useful to have these trials and tribulations in one easy to find thread.

 

[EvilDick34]

I'm going to be super honest, i being a Nintendo geek and all was going to get a PS VITA right up until launch until the horrible news came out that you have to have a proprietary memory card to play a good chunk of their games and that made me cancel my pre-order. I feel like if Sony just gives up on trying to force someone to buy a memory card, VITA will be golden and i will purchase one.

 

[SmokedMeat]

The salty tear content in this post is through the roof.

I owned a Vita, ditched it until I see how it picks up in terms of games ...... at the moment it does not look very good.

When Sony gets a bunch of new games together they will technically have to relaunch the system.

Bought a 3DS (first nintendo console since the N64) and I am having fun.

Hope the Vita survivies, it has potential .. vast potential.

Actually no salty tears at all! I'm a very happy 3DS owner, who put any future Vita purchase on hold until the thing gets a price drop and a kick in the ass.

I just get a little tired of the constant rah rah Nintendo, boo Sony talk after awhile. And what I said was true.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Meh. No entertainment industry is driven by quality. I don't know why enthusiasts get worked up about it. Go take a look at the top ten Box Office for the last few months. Is #1 the best film? Is a good film even in the top 10? Sales are driven by marketing and brand awareness.

Enjoy what you enjoy.

And word of mouth.

 

[theBishop]

TBH, as a Vita owner, I have no problem with this thread. The unit evidently has issues with support and sales and it's useful to have these trials and tribulations in one easy to find thread.

I don't have a problem with the thread either. But it's pretty amusing to see so many hardliners in here certain of Vita's demise. We literally just witnessed the turnaround of a system with a much weaker software lineup after a year of floundering.

 

[SmokyDave]

I don't have a problem with the thread either. But it's pretty amusing to see so many hardliners in here certain of Vita's demise. We literally just witnessed the turnaround of a system with a much weaker software lineup after a year of floundering.

Those cheerleaders are largely turkeys voting for christmas. Don't worry about it, let them have fun.

 

[Father_Brain]

I don't have a problem with the thread either. But it's pretty amusing to see so many hardliners in here certain of Vita's demise. We literally just witnessed the turnaround of a system with a much weaker software lineup after a year of floundering.

We most certainly didn't. You're making the mistake of conflating subjective software quality with realistic sales potential.

 

[jman2050]

I don't have a problem with the thread either. But it's pretty amusing to see so many hardliners in here certain of Vita's demise. We literally just witnessed the turnaround of a system with a much weaker software lineup after a year of floundering.

I don't like the implication that saying "I don't think right now that the Vita will sell well in the future because X, Y, and Z" means that they are cheer-leading Nintendo.

Ultimately, when analyzing sales patterns, context is everything.

 

[KongRudi]

Uncharted/Wipeout I get, but PS3 Ports UMvsC3/Rayman/Lego"Insert Title Here"/PSN Game which is -75% less on the PSN than retail (Hi2U Dungeon Hunter: Alliance)
$12.99 0n PSN, $39.99 as retail cartridge... LOLWAT!?!

Fighting games get ported over to handhelds quickly because there is no button-lag, and there isn't as much asset-work and similar.
The western-publishers have been downright bad with new IP.

Sony had Escape Plan, Gravity Rush and a few other titles, both either out or coming to Europe. Square brought their A-game, with two good new IP's at launch, Army Corpse of Hell, also had a game called Lord of the Apocalypse at launch, but dunno if the last game get localised, or when. Sega had that free to play RPG MMO, but don't think we westerns will be invited.
Mid-tier Japaneese publishers also seems to do a good job brining new games..

It's mostly the big western publishers like EA, Activision and Ubisoft wich suck, and Capcom. But those dosn't innovate with new IP's much at all on any platforms.

 

[neoemonk]

I wonder if this is how Dreamcast fans felt.

 

[zoukka]

I wonder if this is how Dreamcast fans felt.

No because dreamcast had groundbreaking classics on it, which made its death so bitter.

 

[UncleSporky]

I don't have a problem with the thread either. But it's pretty amusing to see so many hardliners in here certain of Vita's demise. We literally just witnessed the turnaround of a system with a much weaker software lineup after a year of floundering.

Due to a 30% price drop which Sony can't afford.

 

[ReaperXL7]

Due to a 30% price drop which Sony can't afford.

Since you seem to know, can you elaborate on how much Sony is selling each unit for? Can you go into any detail about how much their R&D costs were, or discuss their marketing budget?

You seem to know alot but what Sony can, or can't do, so I'm just curious as to where your getting this information, especially when most sources seem to lean more into them either breaking even, or making a profit on unit sold.

 

[Mario007]

We most certainly didn't. You're making the mistake of conflating subjective software quality with realistic sales potential.

It's actually you who's making the mistake. Until pretty much November the 3DS' only 'system sellers' were ports of Zelda and Starfox (and they actually didn't do that much for the system). 3DS's first 9 months were very weak.

 

[SmokyDave]

I wonder if this is how Dreamcast fans felt.

Nah, I was there day 1 for Vita, Dreamcast and Saturn and this feels more like (PAL) Saturn than Dreamcast. It'll limp along as an unappreciated device with some awesome games and then the successor will be the last of its kind.

 

[Fabrik]

Dreamcast had originality.

 

[Sullichin]

It's silly, I'm ready to spend more money on games for this thing, and there's nothing that interests me. I was going to impulse-buy a game on PSN the other day and the store was down for maintenance. Also I plugged in my Vita and my touch screen didn't work until I unplugged it. :/ I'm having a lot of fun with pinball arcade, but that's just pinball. Don't even know the next retail game I plan on getting for this.

 

[jman2050]

It's actually you who's making the mistake. Until pretty much November the 3DS' only 'system sellers' were ports of Zelda and Starfox (and they actually didn't do that much for the system). 3DS's first 9 months were very weak.

That's still a significantly stronger sales magnet than anything released for the Vita so far or in the foreseeable future.

 

[Drek]

It's silly, I'm ready to spend more money on games for this thing, and there's nothing that interests me. I was going to impulse-buy a game on PSN the other day and the store was down for maintenance. Also I plugged in my Vita and my touch screen didn't work until I unplugged it. :/ I'm having a lot of fun with pinball arcade, but that's just pinball. Don't even know the next retail game I plan on getting for this.

If the answer to that isn't Gravity Rush you're doing it wrong.

 

[Mario007]

That's still a significantly stronger sales magnet than anything released for the Vita so far or in the foreseeable future.

It's not, FIFA (in PAL) and Uncharted are much more significant launch software than anything 3DS had at launch (I should know, I bought the damn thing)

 

[Gaborn]

That's still a significantly stronger sales magnet than anything released for the Vita so far or in the foreseeable future.

Like I said in the media create thread. Realistically, is there ANY title that could be announced (and I don't include Monster Hunter because I don't think there is any good reason to believe it's coming) that will make a difference? Because I haven't heard of it. There are going to be titles that cause spikes but I see absolutely NO compelling software that will significantly and in a sustainable way swell the user base. I don't think Sony has shown outside of Monster Hunter or FF the ability to do that with a handheld title and I don't think either of those titles are coming.

Obviously I think once that kind of title is in PLACE then other mid size titles can have a greater effect spiking momentum but... where is that first initial breakthrough title going to come from? Why would a company put that sort of title on the Vita rather than the 3DS?

 

[dark10x]

Dreamcast had originality.

Did it?

Was a huge Dreamcast fan and, at launch, I'd argue otherwise. I'd say the Vita actually has more in the way of unique, original software at this stage in its life (5 months in).

 

[Somnid]

It's not, FIFA (in PAL) and Uncharted are much more significant launch software than anything 3DS had at launch (I should know, I bought the damn thing)

Uncharted is a nice graphical show piece but it's not much more of a seller than Zelda.

 

[dark10x]

Uncharted is a nice graphical show piece but it's not much more of a seller than Zelda.

...which showed up for 3DS almost 6 months after the system launched. Uncharted was there day 1 for the Japanese launch.

 

[Bumhead]

It's not, FIFA (in PAL) and Uncharted are much more significant launch software than anything 3DS had at launch (I should know, I bought the damn thing)

Yeah, but how many units has Uncharted actually sold?

People make reference to Uncharted at launch but I don't think the sales support the idea that it's as important as people think it is. Sure it's a damn site better than anything the 3DS had at launch, but given the two systems aren't launching simultaneously it doesn't matter a jot. Uncharted is an absolute million miles away from being the sort of seller Super Mario and Mario Kart are, and those games are already available for the 3DS.

It's a concern, because I can't think of another Sony franchise that can theoretically attract attention like Uncharted can, and yet its presence at launch has had an incredibly minimal impact on sales performance.

 

[jman2050]

...which showed up for 3DS almost 6 months after the system launched. Uncharted was there day 1 for the Japanese launch.

3 months is not 6 months and hell, that wasn't even the question anyway.

It's a concern, because I can't think of another Sony franchise that can theoretically attract attention like Uncharted can, and yet its presence at launch has had an incredibly minimal impact on sales performance.

Gran Turismo was and still is Sony's strongest franchise.