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Leona Lewis said:
Yes.

Syphon Filter: DM was the first PSP game that really blew me away. It was so full-featured and was doing things most online console games at the time weren't bothering with, let alone handhelds.

I still remember my first time doing 8-player Team Deathmatch with voice chat in that huge, seamless Shanty Town map. And the single player was incredibly well-structured, with bite-sized but satisfying missions and creative tasks (fond memories of that taser).

How I wish Sony Bend could finally have their moment to shine :-(
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Was Uncharted Golden Abyss not their moment to shine? The game is a breakthrough.

Both Syphon Filter games are great too. I hope we finally get one with dual analog control.
 
I was offered a Vita wifi, 2 games (Wipeout+Lumines), memory 16gb and case for £200...

I know it's a good offer but somehow it didn't feel like a value purchase...I just cant think of much I wanna play in 2012 onwards...
 
Leona Lewis said:
Well, one issue is that Sony utterly failed to advertise gems like Syphon Filter and Loco Roco. Million sellers don't just sell themselves, they have the full faith and support of the publisher behind them.

Instead we got spazzed out squirrels making nut puns :-|
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Can't advertise without a decent advertising budget. Games like Syphon or Loco got the short end of advertising dollars. It got worse with the PS3 launch one would assume.
 
KongRudi said:
Nintendo's studios are built up abit differently than Sony's studios.
They have one giant studios, now in two locations I believe, where only two or three out of 9 assembly lines (I believe it's only seven assembly lines now) are able to make a game-engine, while the other works on assets, and prepearing the game, then they move the game-team wich have been working with lesser toolsets or outdated engines, up to the coders in the main-assembly lines, to polish the projects and engines.
It may be different today, because it's a few years since I heard how it were to work as a coder in Nintendo.
But in the end I think EAD3 is working on Zelda, while EAD2 is working on Wii Play and Animal Crossing, and EAD1 is working on Mario Kart.

The bad thing with this strategy, is that I figure it's hard to pitch a new franchise other than Mario or Zelda, while you're using the tools for the next Mario or Zelda games - especially now when they too will need to increase their budgets for HD-games.
The good thing is that the next Mario-game get's really good. :-/
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This really only applies to the Kyoto EAD groups btw, Nintendo's other internal divisions (SPD, NST, EAD Tokyo) have more defined and delineated teams rather than project leads with shared staff. This also doesn't account for all the other external 1st party Nintendo developers like HAL, Intelligent Ststems, Monolith Soft, Retro Studios, NdCube, etc, etc.

Also, SCE Japan Studio has a similar structure to EAD (project leads with a large pool of shared staff). It's really not uncommon in Japan, Namco and Level-5 are structured the same way too.
 
staticneuron said:
This brings up interesting issues. I didn't catch this at first but it seems as if it is expected for Sony to carry the weight instead of supplement
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Of course they are, it's their system. Other than Sony, nobody else has a good reason to work to make the system succeed -- in fact, third-party publishers have a strong incentive to avoid the system entirely if it can't support hits for them all on its own.

It's true that Sony didn't have to worry about how they were going to get people to develop for their systems in the past, but that mostly just demonstrates exactly how shitty the situation they're in with the Vita is.
 
Vita is not dead anymore, because it has now Sir Awesomealot!

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It's a sample game of PSSuite. But you kill enemies throwing beer jars. BEER JARS.
 
KongRudi said:
Nintendo's studios are built up abit differently than Sony's studios.
They have one giant studios, now in two locations I believe, where only two or three out of 9 assembly lines (I believe it's only seven assembly lines now) are able to make a game-engine, while the other works on assets, and prepearing the game, then they move the game-team wich have been working with lesser toolsets or outdated engines, up to the coders in the main-assembly lines, to polish the projects and engines.
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Nintendo has like ten internal studios and ten external first party studios along with almost 30 "second party" ones. I don't think your explanation is correct.
 
charlequin said:
It's true that Sony didn't have to worry about how they were going to get people to develop for their systems in the past, but that mostly just demonstrates exactly how shitty the situation they're in with the Vita is.
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I just hope they don't start announcing games that will release so far away from release at E3.
 
Sammy Samusu said:
CAPCOM UNEXPECTED GAME ®
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Capcom, in this generation, put all their cards with Microsoft (several exclusives and main development of HD, with crappy ports on PS3) and Nintendo (tons of DS and 3DS exclusivities, a lot of Wii support and switch of Monster Hunter). So this Capcom announcement probably will be another nail in Vita's coffin, instead of any hope for Vita.
 
Diablos54 said:
Why would that have an effect on this thread? Unless it's RE7 exclusive to Vita or MH4 now exclusive betrayal...
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I know one game is not enough, but a big announcement would certainly be welcome at this point, and maybe a sign of things yet to come.

I mean, look at Dreamcast and Game Cube, the pure definition of bomba, and yet both had great exclusive third-party games. Vita is definitely getting some love, sooner or later.

EDIT: By the way, I just noticed... 150k views? uhdfudhdfewyugr *death*
 
Sammy Samusu said:
I know one game is not enough, but a big announcement would certainly be welcome at this point, and maybe a sign of things yet to come.
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But what could Capcom put out on the Vita which would be considered 'a big announcement'? And why announce it now?

So when is someone going to make a '... will save Vita!' list? We need one quickly.
 
Diablos54 said:
But what could Capcom put out on the Vita which would be considered 'a big announcement'? And why announce it now?

So when is someone going to make a '... will save Vita!' list? We need one quickly.
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Shit, I would take several Capcom announcements seriously if they handled them right. They would be all old games now though.

Marvel Super Heroes Collection, Mega Man Collection, Mega Man X Collection, Ghouls/Ghosts and Goblins Collection, Arcade Collection (D&D, etc), Shenmu e 1-2.... etc.
 
Diablos54 said:
But what could Capcom put out on the Vita which would be considered 'a big announcement'? And why announce it now?

So when is someone going to make a '... will save Vita!' list? We need one quickly.
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New Breath of Fire would be pretty sweet. Or new Darkstalkers since Capcom is giving Vita fighting game love. Completely out of leftfield but awesome new U.N. Squadron game.

Probably MH related though.
 
Diablos54 said:
But what could Capcom put out on the Vita which would be considered 'a big announcement'? And why announce it now?
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they have annual monster hunter releases for japan,i doubt mh4 will make it in 2012,so if that's 2013 what will they have for this year?mh vita....or mh triDS g+
 
Diablos54 said:
But what could Capcom put out on the Vita which would be considered 'a big announcement'? And why announce it now?

So when is someone going to make a '... will save Vita!' list? We need one quickly.
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Now = Pre-E3?

If so, don't forget about Resident Evil 6, Black Ops 2, New Super Mario Bros 2, Epic Mickey 2, etc.

I'm personally expecting a Resident Evil game, maybe Revelations port or Outbreak Portable (big Resident Evil coverage, series 20th anniversary).

Like I said, one game won't save Vita (not even Monster Hunter 9, the series is already on the 3DS), but anything is better than nothing, and it would encourage gamers (and developers) to have more faith on Vita.

Jigsaw said:
they have annual monster hunter releases for japan,i doubt mh4 will make it in 2012,so if that's 2013 what will they have for this year?mh vita....or mh triDS g+
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That's how I used to think, but then someone mentioned MH4 as an early 2013 game. Doesn't make sense to release a big Monster Hunter game in Q4 2012 and another one in Q1 2013.
 
Shit, I would take several Capcom announcements seriously if they handled them right. They would be all old games now though.

Marvel Super Heroes Collection, Mega Man Collection, Mega Man X Collection, Ghouls/Ghosts and Goblins Collection, Arcade Collection (D&D, etc), Shenmu e 1-2.... etc.
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Ponn01 said:
New Breath of Fire would be pretty sweet. Or new Darkstalkers since Capcom is giving Vita fighting game love. Completely out of leftfield but awesome new U.N. Squadron game.

Probably MH related though.
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All good games, but only MH4 or maybe MH3P+ would be a 'big announcement'. And I don't see MH4 happening, 4+ in a year or two maybe, but by then it'll be too late to make too much of an impact sales wise for the Vita.
 
Diablos54 said:
All good games, but only MH4 or maybe MH3P+ would be a 'big announcement'. And I don't see MH4 happening, 4+ in a year or two maybe, but by then it'll be too late to make too much of an impact sales wise for the Vita.
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If you were only going to accept MH as an answer say so and save people from bother replying.

Pack in all your other studios Capcom, MH is your only big worthwhile game anymore.
 
Ponn01 said:
If you were only going to accept MH as an answer say so and save people from bother replying.

Pack in all your other studios Capcom, MH is your only big worthwhile game anymore.
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It's their only proven portable success that would be considered a blockbuster.
 
Totobeni said:
Sony itself is weird too,They announced GOW:A for PS3 and the new GTTV game is also for PS3, not sure if they gave up already or they save their games for a relaunch or something.
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IMO it's more likely they are getting a couple announcements out of the way before E3 hits and they focus a good deal of attention to vita.

Kintaro said:
Shit, I would take several Capcom announcements seriously if they handled them right. They would be all old games now though.

Marvel Super Heroes Collection, Mega Man Collection, Mega Man X Collection, Ghouls/Ghosts and Goblins Collection, Arcade Collection (D&D, etc), Shenmu e 1-2.... etc.
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That would be Sega =P

I'd buy a vita if shenmue 1-3 were announced though.
 
Man God said:
It's their only proven portable success that would be considered a blockbuster.
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So why bother trying anything else then right? Unfortunately way too many publishers and developers think this way.

Personally I would find a portable Vita version of U.N. Squadron reboot to be awesome and I have a feeling alot of others would agree with me. But whatever, its not MH so don't bother Capcom.
 
I'm sure the Vita and the 3DS are getting all kinds of wonderful games that I won't be able to play, but when my brain said "you should get a portable game system" my first and only thought was that I should get a new iPad. I'm fairly satisfied with the decision too. This is a major obstacle for portable gaming machines... having competition that will play games, be a synth, and read or edit office documents stored on the cloud. Big 3 handheld gaming is, IMO, dead.
 
Ponn01 said:
So why bother trying anything else then right? Unfortunately way too many publishers and developers think this way.

Personally I would find a portable Vita version of U.N. Squadron reboot to be awesome and I have a feeling alot of others would agree with me. But whatever, its not MH so don't bother Capcom.
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Hallelujah. As if anyone knew a mostly-forgotten PS2 franchise was going to be a cultural phenomenon on PSP before it happened.
 
CAPCOM UNEXPECTED GAME
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i'm expecting it to be for the Wii U - it's almost certainly not Monster Hunter for Vita, people need to get over it. MH is now near as damn it a Nintendo franchise for the close future unless something drastic has happened (carpet bombing of Capcom with In-yen-dery Ammo)
 
DCharlie said:
i'm expecting it to be for the Wii U - it's almost certainly not Monster Hunter for Vita, people need to get over it. MH is now near as damn it a Nintendo franchise for the close future unless something drastic has happened (carpet bombing of Capcom with In-yen-dery Ammo)
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It might be, but it won't be announced for it. Not this soon.
 
It might be, but it won't be announced for it. Not this soon.
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signs are going up in Japan for preorders starting "soon", i think they're going to start the hype train pretty damned soon. (though i expect no preorders for another 2-3 months)

What better way than to have a 3rd party announce a heavy hitter early in the game and reassure japanese devs on going the Wii U route?


(it's probably going to be something crap... on iOS.... like Monster Hunter Pachinko (this is a real thing - it's massive - i may try and get some footage but recording in a pachinko parlour = dangerous))
 
DCharlie said:
signs are going up in Japan for preorders starting "soon", i think they're going to start the hype train pretty damned soon. (though i expect no preorders for another 2-3 months)

What better way than to have a 3rd party announce a heavy hitter early in the game and reassure japanese devs on going the Wii U route?


(it's probably going to be something crap... on iOS.... like Monster Hunter Pachinko (this is a real thing - it's massive - i may try and get some footage but recording in a pachinko parlour = dangerous))
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I have an old Pachinko machine.
It's fun.
:D
 
Mango Positive said:
I'm sure the Vita and the 3DS are getting all kinds of wonderful games that I won't be able to play, but when my brain said "you should get a portable game system" my first and only thought was that I should get a new iPad. I'm fairly satisfied with the decision too. This is a major obstacle for portable gaming machines... having competition that will play games, be a synth, and read or edit office documents stored on the cloud. Big 3 handheld gaming is, IMO, dead.
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Gaming on an IPad is awesome! I have one..

That said there is nothing on the platform that can come close to Super Mario 3D land or Uncharted Golden Abyss.

Not dead...
 
I have an old Pachinko machine.
It's fun.
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i'll translate some of the details of the MH Pachinko game if i get some spare time over golden week - seems pretty indepth/complex! lol.
 
DCharlie said:
signs are going up in Japan for preorders starting "soon", i think they're going to start the hype train pretty damned soon. (though i expect no preorders for another 2-3 months)

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Wii U signs?
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