No, he's probably mature than most and has the right general idea.
Go to pornhub to see what real ladies already expose in real life... gasp... navels, curves and attractive faces?
Loose and generous usage of the word "general" right there.
The way some on this forum obsess over "censorship" of T&A in games, you'd think they jerked it every time they saw a woman character with a vaguely sexy costume. It's not a minor issue to them, at least not based on the sheer number of spirited discussions that come up on this forum.
In this day and age, wedding costumes, curve lines visible on clothes, too attractive faces, and even navels and arms are covered up. Some walking animations are "problematic". I
think it goes quite a bit beyond softcore porn or "tits and ass".
And let's be honest, the issue with western games was never that they were too "mass appeal". Mostly naked male bodies with underwear that leaves little to imagination and mostly covered with sweat / lube have no issues appearing in modern Western games, and that's anything but mass appeal, and safe for work fun for the whole family.
Good grief, people, they're digital characters. You will not suffer if Black Cat isn't prancing around half-naked; it's not a crisis if women in fighting games are actually dressed to fight instead of serving as masturbation material. You don't have to celebrate it, but you aren't a victim either. It's an ultimately insignificant issue in the broader context of sexuality.
I guess we will not suffer either if Nintendo of America decides to cancel Fatal Frame's next game's English release, after they removed a character's trauma (has been a gravure model) that plays a major part in the horror plot (the point of the game you know) not only in the visuals but the writing as well. After all, it's a digital game.
What kind of masturbation material are we talking about exactly? Exposed skin? Like the below picture, in red?
In which case, how do you cope in real life where women expose more skin than this, which is enough to fuel a violent masturbation bout? This is creepy.
This is anything but "an insignificant issue in the broader subject of sexuality". It's a perverse, even unhinged, interpretation of what is considered obscene and what isn't, that you're desperately trying to get enforced universally, and then for everyone to shut up and accept it and abide with it.
You're purposefully misinterpreting what I said.
Sexuality in characters is, by itself, not necessarily a problem. I love characters who embrace their sexuality in a positive way and are more than just cardboard cut-outs. The issue, as I see it, is when characters are clearly designed primarily to be objectified (that can include male characters, but it primarily targets female characters), especially if it's in a creepy way.
Why is it exactly that you want expressions of art and beauty to validate a political message to earn the right to exist?
In this case, what you think are the only valid, politically correct, gender relationships and images. Aka the immaculate christian pious chaste white man and woman sleeping in different beds years before, or the widely derided before but the only allowed female archetype nowadays, the Mary Sue that has no flaws to ensure the demographic she shares some attributes with isn't tarnished and INSULTED across the entire human race... so much for your digital/real life separation there earlier.
We already know which "positive ways to explore sexuality" are allowed today by SJWs when Ubisoft apologizes for the one canonical heterosexual encounter the Assassin Creed Odyssey heroine has in order to be an ancestor (since she has to reproduce for that, you know).
Take DOA, for example. It's not that the women are scantily clad by themselves, it's that they're dressed that way solely so that guys can leer at them (while denying the same chance for the male characters, who tend to be conservatively dressed). And that's not counting creepy-porn-masquerading-as-a-game titles like DOA Xtreme, where there's even a gust-of-wind feature for upskirt shots. DOAX feels like a game for the sort of men who would grope women on the subway if they thought they could get away with it.
DoA is basically Rapelay then? That's news to me.
Good for you that DoA6 heavily toned down any sexually attractive attribute for the female characters (or as you say, women, since your remark that they're just digital characters and harmless fantasy earlier is insincere), and covered the male characters with lube. It doesn't seem it's finding its "wider audience", if anything it's losing its existing audience. It's as if this isn't about market search, but more "ban this filth that doesn't follow my ideology".
Basically, it comes down to this: games that are designed for a wide audience are ideally designed for... well, a wide audience -- if there's sexuality, it shouldn't exist solely to pander to one demographic. And if a game is clearly intended to pander to one demographic, it shouldn't promote vile behavior.
Did you just advocate for quotas and tokenism?
What "vile behavior"? Having boners from watching pixels? Reading dangerous ideas in fiction and thinking something like that could or could not happen in real life, like evil female characters, or ones that fall in love with male scum and degrade their dignity with impure feelings trying to get them to notice and reciprocate in increasingly unfeminist ways?
Your shilling for pornhub as the solution for anyone who ever wants to be allowed to experience existing games with fanservice, is very strange. First of all, because pornhub doesn't offer horror, war stories, "problematic" stories exploring dystopias or the depths of the human psyche and moral dilemmas in ways that don't abide by intersectional ideology, and that's also the sort of content that's getting cut alongside fanservice. Second, because in the context of T&A, the user's behavior with those pixels will be still just as "problematic" as with games. Something tells me you really hope for that because feminists in many countries are lobbying for national registers logging anyone who watches porn in a list with their real name.
