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It saddens me that the Wii U will never reach its full potential.
- Thread starter bman94
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Just like with every other console that fails commercially that still got good games, they'll get remade later or be forgotten.
Prepare to be disappointed, because none of that is happening except the account system which as is it's a proper one, the only issue with it is how they prevent you from using it on multiple devices and the friends system is already there.
Omegasquash
Member
Nintendo: Buy our platform to play the games that are exclusive to our platform. They'll be fantastic, but that's all you get.
And you're stuck in YouTube. I can have a YouTube video (or a lot of other video playing sites like Twitch) playing while I browse a completely different site like GAF.
And to be honest I'm not really a fan of the YouTube TV app.
If they could get them out more frequently I'd be 100% fine with that. NX is supposed to fix that. I guess we'll see.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Fuck no. Buttons 4 Lyfe.
(That and iOS software is more often than not pretty garbagey, from what I've experienced.)
captmcblack
Member
I wish it launched with Super Mario Maker. That would've carried it right out of the gate.
I wish it launched with more than 32GB of "deluxe" storage. That's simply too small for an actual home console that was using BD-ROM-style discs and an online store for full retail software that was released in 2012.
I wish Nintendo would've spent the filthy lucre to make sure that the stuff that people expected (EA Sports, Calladooty, Assassin's Creed, Street Fighter) still were released. Even if it didn't get every game, there's no reason it couldn't have seen even 50% of the stuff that came out on PS3/360 through 2015.
I wish that either they'd have designed it to be more in line with the 360's design (if they were going to release hardware with similar power) to make ports easy - or if that wasn't going to happen, that they'd have made sure that the devkits were free and came with money hats to ensure that above point.
I wish they at least had the EXACT same VC support level that the OG Wii did, even if they were just going to make you buy it again.
I wish it launched at $250 like the original Wii, to make sure people would at least have bought it for the cheapness.
That said, I'll always enjoy the great titles that released for it - Nintendo's output w/Kart, Smash, 3D World, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Bayonetta 2 and so on were amazing. The Wii U will be a cult system like the Saturn or TG-16 was when we come back to it in a few years...
I wish it launched with more than 32GB of "deluxe" storage. That's simply too small for an actual home console that was using BD-ROM-style discs and an online store for full retail software that was released in 2012.
I wish Nintendo would've spent the filthy lucre to make sure that the stuff that people expected (EA Sports, Calladooty, Assassin's Creed, Street Fighter) still were released. Even if it didn't get every game, there's no reason it couldn't have seen even 50% of the stuff that came out on PS3/360 through 2015.
I wish that either they'd have designed it to be more in line with the 360's design (if they were going to release hardware with similar power) to make ports easy - or if that wasn't going to happen, that they'd have made sure that the devkits were free and came with money hats to ensure that above point.
I wish they at least had the EXACT same VC support level that the OG Wii did, even if they were just going to make you buy it again.
I wish it launched at $250 like the original Wii, to make sure people would at least have bought it for the cheapness.
That said, I'll always enjoy the great titles that released for it - Nintendo's output w/Kart, Smash, 3D World, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Bayonetta 2 and so on were amazing. The Wii U will be a cult system like the Saturn or TG-16 was when we come back to it in a few years...
I have said it a thousand times, but can say it again.
If the Wii U had some nice third-party stuff to go from the start, it would have been different.
Skyrim - Legendary Edition with some nice use of the gamepad
Borderlands 2 - Legendary Edition
Diablo 3 with Reaper of Souls - Would have been an awesome start
Dark Souls 2
Fallout 4
And add to the above, all the fantastic games from Nintendo themselves!
Nintendo wasn't on the ball with Wii U. But it had great potential.
If the Wii U had some nice third-party stuff to go from the start, it would have been different.
Skyrim - Legendary Edition with some nice use of the gamepad
Borderlands 2 - Legendary Edition
Diablo 3 with Reaper of Souls - Would have been an awesome start
Dark Souls 2
Fallout 4
And add to the above, all the fantastic games from Nintendo themselves!
Nintendo wasn't on the ball with Wii U. But it had great potential.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Put the Wii U gamepad into the charging cradle when you're done playing. That way it's back up to 100% battery next time you're ready to play.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I do have to agree.
First-party exclusives aside, some indie gems also made possible only by the wiiU.
Aztechnology
Member
The simple fact is though they won't get third party support without a system at or above the level of parity required. If Nintendo gimp their hardware in favour of a lower price and gimmicks on the NX it will be a repeat of the Wii-U
MDSLKTR
Member
"Let's thank the wiiu for making dlc fancy"
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
It's difficult to enjoy something that nobody else does. All you end up hearing is how you're wrong and you've made a bad decision.
wonderful103
Member
anything that is able to run on the 360 is able to run on wii u with some work.
that should tell u enough
outunderthestars
Banned
I think Nintendo did a great job of propping up two platforms that had weak 3rd party support with consistently good (until the last year or so with some garbage tier games) games across a wide variety of genres.
I'm not convinced even if the hardware was at parity or higher anything would change as far as 3rd parties. Honestly I think the only way Nintendo gets any 3rd party support back is if Sony or MS drop out of consoles altogether and they have no choice.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Wait, what? The Wii U and its software library isn't going to suddenly disappear in a puff of smoke when the NX hits the market. Games and consoles will be out there to buy and enjoy.
Anyone that wants to play the Wii U's software library will be able to do so quite easily.
Flawed controller (or you could argue that Nintendo blew MANY opportunities you utilize it properly and creatively), overpriced system (due to controller), poor account system, cumbersome friend set-up, mediocre online offerings, terrible marketing... there was really no realistic chance of the Wii U being a success, and I say this as someone with a large collection of Wii U games. They road on the coat tails of the Wii brand which they let rot away towards the end, and then when the sales weren't there (for most of the above reasons), it shouldn't have been a surprise that 3rd party support wasn't there either.
Tropical Freeze is the best 2D platformer of all time.
There, I said it.
Honestly WiiU has some of my favorite games ever, and I've already enjoyed it more than the wii. Playing Metroid Zero Mission right now, and I still have to beat Yoshi, Fast Racing Neo, XCX, and I need to explore more of Mario Maker. I guess as a working man, I don't find enough time for all the WiiU games that have come out.
There, I said it.
Honestly WiiU has some of my favorite games ever, and I've already enjoyed it more than the wii. Playing Metroid Zero Mission right now, and I still have to beat Yoshi, Fast Racing Neo, XCX, and I need to explore more of Mario Maker. I guess as a working man, I don't find enough time for all the WiiU games that have come out.
Aztechnology
Member
If parity is present (X86 with as or more powerful hardware) then there's absolutely no reason given that sales are decent it wouldn't get support. Middleware makes most easily ported. It's basically free money for publishers and devs.
Say what you will about the Wii U but I came with 3 of the best platformers of all time. The best Pikman to date, 2 new IP's (if you count Treasure Tracker as one), 2 HD Zelda games (which are now the definitive versions) and all of their games didn't need a day 1 patch. In fact I've never had a Wii U game crash on me ever.
Oh and their controller has a 40 hour battery life and free online.
Not bad if you ask me.
Oh and their controller has a 40 hour battery life and free online.
Not bad if you ask me.
yanipheonu
Member
Real talk: can anyone actually think of scenario where the Gamepad would be a runaway success?Give the Wiimote some credit, it was intuitive and sold copies.
What the hell was the Gamepad supposed to do??
What the hell was the Gamepad supposed to do??
I am standing in line literally right now at the Post Office waiting to pick up my Wii U from eBay. I haven't had a Nintendo system since N64 and I can't wait to get home and bust it open.
Considering it's given us the best games of the last few years in short bursts...it's like Gohan. Flashes of really awesome stuff at times but spent too long without training (games).
I think they hoped it would help porting games between 3DS and Wii U as they have a similar tool set, but the actual technical challenges turned out to be a real problem. Also the Wii U came when tablets were really hot.
DownGrader
Member
Have you played LEGO City Undercover?
Play it, it's actually amazing. The lack of co-op doesn't let me to call it one of the best Wii U titles, though.
I suppose it should be smaller... and it should be the only Wii U controller. Mish-mash of Wii U, Wii and GameCube controllers hurt the system more than GamePad alone, although it's fun to switch controllers once you've collected them all and provided you are playing a game which supports all of them.
family_guy
Member
It's full potential was already met by Zombii U...a third party game.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Without 'proper' hardware, they will never get any real 3rd party support again. They must surely realize that.
Launching outdated technology once again will just lead to another Wii U level product which 'nobody' will buy.
They will most likely be going to AMD for the guts of the hardware. The design is already laid out with the PS4. All they need to do is add a few compute units, clock it higher and build on a smaller process. Job done!
They can't be so stupid to not do something similar, I refuse to believe it!
wild wild rice
Member
In a way I think it did.
Once again almost the same argument, it all came down to marketing, because the general populace doesn't know about the rest you listed(even if some are argueable like the "cumbersome friend set-up").
They can do that, but I don't think that'll result in a console at a "competitive price" nor that it'll be immediately succesful.
JinjoUnchained
Member
It's all about the games. In that way, Wii U far exceeded expectations. Even in a short period of time, the Wii U library is Nintendo's best since the SNES. And that's true even with Zelda Wii U still on the horizon.
Co-op 3D Mario platforming bliss, the GOAT kart racer w/nearly 50 tracks, 1080p/60 fps HD Smash w/an insane roster, the perfect realization of the Pikmin concept, an infectious Zelda Musou crossover that no one knew they wanted, an all time great character action sequel we never thought we'd get, brilliant level creator suite for gaming's most iconic franchise, the return of David Wise in all his glory, and, screw it, Nintendo Land was awesome too!
What more do you want for Wii U to reach its' potential
OP?
Co-op 3D Mario platforming bliss, the GOAT kart racer w/nearly 50 tracks, 1080p/60 fps HD Smash w/an insane roster, the perfect realization of the Pikmin concept, an infectious Zelda Musou crossover that no one knew they wanted, an all time great character action sequel we never thought we'd get, brilliant level creator suite for gaming's most iconic franchise, the return of David Wise in all his glory, and, screw it, Nintendo Land was awesome too!
What more do you want for Wii U to reach its' potential
OP?
Basically what I'm trying to say is I need to experience future Pikmin pizzas in a higher resolution.
Fuck it. Pikmin 4 NX, 4K pizza.
Make it so Nintendo.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
In some ways the Wii U's backwards compatibility is its greatest asset.
In one console you have access to:
That's a lot of great software all in one place. I can't forsee ever getting rid of my Wii U because it's plays so much.
In one console you have access to:
- Wii U Retail Software
- Wii U eShop Software
- Wii Retail Software
- Virtual Console Software (Wii U eShop & Wii Shop Channel Offerings)
- Wiiware
That's a lot of great software all in one place. I can't forsee ever getting rid of my Wii U because it's plays so much.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Wii U reached its full potential with games like Xenoblade Chronicles X, Splatoon, Wind Waker HD, ZombiU and NintendoLand. All put the Gamepad to great use.
Other WiiU games like Captain Toad, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, Mario World, Mario Bros Donkey Kong, Pikmin 3, Fast Racing Neo, Mario Kart 8, Lego City and Smash are as good as a game could get in their genres.
In short, the WiiU is certainly not a console for everyone but I really enjoy(ed) it.
Other WiiU games like Captain Toad, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, Mario World, Mario Bros Donkey Kong, Pikmin 3, Fast Racing Neo, Mario Kart 8, Lego City and Smash are as good as a game could get in their genres.
In short, the WiiU is certainly not a console for everyone but I really enjoy(ed) it.
VendettaRed07
Member
It is an international tragedy of the highest order that this has not and will never happen.
How do they not do this.
This had everything to do with how awesome IR aiming was and nothing to do with the Wii U. In fact, it was the Wii U going back to dual analog that killed off IR. It didn't matter that the remote was supported as an optional controller, developers didn't bother to support it because they no longer had to. RE: Revelations would have been a natural fit for remote controls, but Capcom wasn't going to bother with a side controller. Starfox Zero also could have been an amazing showcase of great IR controls, but thanks the the gamepad we're getting the game we are now. Sorry, but what you're complaining about is entirely the Wii U's fault.
I agree that there were more ideas out there that could have utilized the gamepad, but there's not much it could have done for Nintendo's core game series, and as Starfox demonstrates, trying to find a use for it where there honestly isn't one can be extremely detrimental to the game. I think it was a bad idea with potential limited to smaller scale titles and minigames, and Nintendo is right to phase it out as soon as possible.
Wii had a lot of good uses much earlier on. The IR camera was kicking ass pretty much from the start, and Red Steel 2 and Sports Resort were really using the motion+ well before Zelda.
That was one of the games I bought when i got the system. Loved it. But will agree that the lack of co-op hurt the game a bit. Also I wish you could use the pro controller to play.
Astral Dog
Member
You are asking for a Wii 2, ironically, the Wii U is NOT that.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
I agree with OP.
Some amazing games on the system. Also Nintendo games in HD are glorious!
Some amazing games on the system. Also Nintendo games in HD are glorious!
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
In a way, the WiiU feels like the first piece of Nintendo hardware even Nintendo didn't know how to build games around.
There are probably less than 10 games that use the gamepad in a way I care to engage in, some first party games literally don't use it at all, and on top of that the thing is too heavy and the default battery is shit for long sessions. Like, playing Xenoblade X right now, I use the pro controller and have the pad on the side (since there's no other way to use the map or fast travel) and have the screen set on lowest brightness with no rumble, and basically just let the battery getting low be my queue to take a break. I could just plug it in while playing, sure, but I figure it's a beneficial use of the thing's limitations
I don't think there's a single game on the system other than Pikmin I've personally enjoyed using the pad immensely. Best thing I can say about the system's hardware concept is I can play it like an uncomfortable handheld while other people use the TV.
There are probably less than 10 games that use the gamepad in a way I care to engage in, some first party games literally don't use it at all, and on top of that the thing is too heavy and the default battery is shit for long sessions. Like, playing Xenoblade X right now, I use the pro controller and have the pad on the side (since there's no other way to use the map or fast travel) and have the screen set on lowest brightness with no rumble, and basically just let the battery getting low be my queue to take a break. I could just plug it in while playing, sure, but I figure it's a beneficial use of the thing's limitations
I don't think there's a single game on the system other than Pikmin I've personally enjoyed using the pad immensely. Best thing I can say about the system's hardware concept is I can play it like an uncomfortable handheld while other people use the TV.
Never really agreed with this sentiment. I thought the few games that used the game pad for a unique purpose used it really well (Splatoon, Mario Maker, Kirby/Xenoblade to a lesser extent) and the games that didn't use the game pad always had off tv play which I feel like is a very underrated feature. It had great first party content that was really only missing Metroid and maybe Animal Crossing. Sure a few franchises had horrible entries like Mario Tennis/Mario Party, but to be honest, I really didn't care much about those particular franchises to begin with. I honestly never cared about third party support for the system or any Nintendo system really and the only time I could see someone getting upset about lack of third party support for the system was if that was the only system they could afford. If that's the case, obviously you should not get a Wii U unless you just really love only Nintendo games.
tl;dr Wii U was fine and brought good to great entries to most of Nintendo's franchises. The system isn't bad if you're a Nintendo fan.
tl;dr Wii U was fine and brought good to great entries to most of Nintendo's franchises. The system isn't bad if you're a Nintendo fan.
Unknown One
Member
I would say Mr. Satan, but he actually have tons of fans.
Wii U is Chiaotzu. Nobody knows or gives a damn about him except for Tien. Say what you can about Yamcha, but he's relevant.
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