This thread was in need of some hardcore alcohol stuff. Not enough crazy.You guys are drunk right?
This thread was in need of some hardcore alcohol stuff. Not enough crazy.You guys are drunk right?
You guys are drunk right?
Nintendo release a next-gen console, please!
haha you responded to brera
Just asking because I've got a bottle of whiskey sitting here whispering sweet nothings into my ear.This thread was in need of some hardcore alcohol stuff. Not enough crazy.
I think what this might mean, and hopefully what ends up happening, is that what NCL does, NoA does. Instead of this: NCL does something, NoA sometimes does the same thing, but it takes forever before it happens, if it even does happen at all.
What I think this means is: Global Nintendo Directs without a lot of significant region-only announcements or products. There are exceptions, obviously, things like Tomadachi and Giftpia probably don't appeal to Western audiences, and vice versa, 3D Metroid games for example don't appeal to Japanese audiences. Overall though, I expect more uniformity in product launches and announcements.
I think this also makes E3 more significant for them. If Iwata is now also CEO of NoA, he now has far more direct control over NoA-specific trade shows and expos like E3.
This can only be a good thing. Not merely because of the person (Iwata) that is assuming the role, but because NCL and NoA will now be more unified and work closer together than ever before.
It's a net benefit to fans.
I'm the only one speaking sense until Dave comes and backs me up.
Do you know what? You guys deserve a CEO like Iwata. You are all happy to lap up your shoddy photocopies of old classics with crap gimmicks like blowing on the control pad to make a boat sail.
When Iwata is gone and we start getting truly quality Nintendo games, then you will see what the rest of us were going on about.
Enjoy Yoshi's Land suckers. I'm off to play Yoshi's island on my snes!
They did, it's called the Wii U and it's pretty slick. Where have you been?
I think what this might mean, and hopefully what ends up happening, is that what NCL does, NoA does. Instead of this: NCL does something, NoA sometimes does the same thing, but it takes forever before it happens, if it even does happen at all.
What I think this means is: Global Nintendo Directs without a lot of significant region-only announcements or products. There are exceptions, obviously, things like Tomadachi and Giftpia probably don't appeal to Western audiences, and vice versa, 3D Metroid games for example don't appeal to Japanese audiences. Overall though, I expect more uniformity in product launches and announcements.
I think this also makes E3 more significant for them. If Iwata is now also CEO of NoA, he now has far more direct control over NoA-specific trade shows and expos like E3.
This can only be a good thing. Not merely because of the person (Iwata) that is assuming the role, but because NCL and NoA will now be more unified and work closer together than ever before.
It's a net benefit to fans.
One thing is people blaming Miyamoto for games "sucking" (like his wish to strip the RPG elements from Paper Mario). But Iwata? Lol. Too good.When Iwata is gone and we start getting truly quality Nintendo games, then you will see what the rest of us were going on about.
Enjoy Yoshi's Land suckers. I'm off to play Yoshi's island on my snes!
Well its definitely not next gen tech. Its closer to the ps3/360 than ps4.
@royalan: I'm not following your point. Rare doesn't exist anymore (only in name), Silicon Knights developed two GameCube games (one being a MGS remake) and Left Field did a couple of sports games (the same amount on GCN than on Wii, actually). And you claim that you are a Nintendo fan because of them? Uh... and on top of that you think more NOJ is a bad thing?
What -exactly- do you want Nintendo to do? I'm sorry but Nintendo has always been rather Japan-centric, especially during the times when they have been the most successful. More Western support would be amazing but distancing from NOJ would be downright idiotic.
I don't remember that at all.
There were more multiplatform games on the GCN than the Wii.
Unless you're talking solely about first-party support.
I don't think real life works like a comedy film.
I think he has been pretty clear. Rare's games were as important for the success especially of the N64 as EAD's games (I agree with him), there isn't a Nintendo exclusive western studio close to former Rare now (Retro's 2 games / gen won't be enough). He wants Nintendo to change this.
@royalan: I'm not following your point. Rare doesn't exist anymore (only in name), Silicon Knights developed two GameCube games (one being a MGS remake) and Left Field did a couple of sports games. And you claim that you are a Nintendo fan because of them? Uh... and on top of that you think more NOJ is a bad thing?
What -exactly- do you want Nintendo to do? I'm sorry but Nintendo has always been rather Japan-centric, especially during the times when they have been the most successful. More Western support would be amazing but distancing from NOJ would be downright idiotic.
I think Retro should have more than 2 games this generation. You'll be seeing at least one of them soon enough.
the wii wouldn't always get third-party games that appeared on other consoles, but the stuff it did get, aside from rock band, was usually the same day. the exclusive support from third-parties was also way higher on the wii versus the gamecube.
The... success of N64.I think he has been pretty clear. Rare's games were as important for the success especially of the N64 as EAD's games (I agree with him), there isn't a Nintendo exclusive western studio close to former Rare now (Retro's 2 games / gen won't be enough). He wants Nintendo to change this.
Do tell...
Do tell...
You're missing my point.
Of course Rare doesn't exist now, and of course Nintendo has always been a Japanese company. But once upon a time Nintendo also put more effort into creating games that had more western appeal. That was he point of me listing those studios.
Rare doesn't exist anymore, and in truth Rare was kinda shit even BEFORE Nintendo sold them off. But it still stands that Nintendo really has done very little to address the hole in their library Rare games used to fill. I mean, have they? You tell me.
Nor am I arguing that NOA distance themselves from NOJ. You're right: that would be silly. But I personally believe that NOJ has plenty of influence already. And I don't think that NOA releasing ever doki doki super kawaii niche game that NOJ touches (which seems to be what people in this thread anticipate from a NOA run by Iwata) really addresses Nintendo's problem in the west: a lack of software that targets this market and a lack of understanding of the western market in general.
To be fair, even Japanese Nintendo series get canned when they underperform.Agreed (nitpick: it's NCL, not NOJ). The last game Nintendo published that even attempted to fill the Western core gaming void in their library was probably Geist back in 2005, maaaybe BWii in 2007; they're known to have cancelled multiple Wii projects that fit into that category (Knight Wars, Project H.A.M.M.E.R., Sphear) early in the platform's lifespan.
Obviously, none of those three games were likely to have been multimillion-selling AAA masterpieces, but they were at least attempts to fill a gap in Nintendo's library that they should have been attempting to fill.
Considering their WiiU game was allegedly yanked from the E3 presser at the last minute last year... it'd be a shock if they don't show their next project () this year.Mario Kart 8, hopefully
I will cry if it's Mario Kart 8, Retro developers aren't really on the racing side, and they hired people from Naughty Dog, Crytek, etc, devs that work on graphically intense games.
Mario Kart 8 wouldn't be worth it for them to hire devs like that.
I will cry if it's Mario Kart 8, Retro developers aren't really on the racing side, and they hired people from Naughty Dog, Crytek, etc, devs that work on graphically intense games.
Mario Kart 8 wouldn't be worth it for them to hire devs like that.
There is literally NO rational reasoning in assuming or even entertaining the idea that they're making Mario Kart.
You're missing my point.
Of course Rare doesn't exist now, and of course Nintendo has always been a Japanese company. But once upon a time Nintendo also put more effort into creating games that had more western appeal. That was he point of me listing those studios.
Rare doesn't exist anymore, and in truth Rare was kinda shit even BEFORE Nintendo sold them off. But it still stands that Nintendo really has done very little to address the hole in their library Rare games used to fill. I mean, have they? You tell me.
Nor am I arguing that NOA distance themselves from NOJ. You're right: that would be silly. But I personally believe that NOJ has plenty of influence already. And I don't think that NOA releasing ever doki doki super kawaii niche game that NOJ touches (which seems to be what people in this thread anticipate from a NOA run by Iwata) really addresses Nintendo's problem in the west: a lack of software that targets this market and a lack of understanding of the western market in general.
Agreed (nitpick: it's NCL, not NOJ).
Good. Iwata is one of the best parts of Nintendo, despite the recent hate on Gaf for no real reason other than using him as a scapegoat.
Sony would be better off with a game developer as their CEO, too, and certainly Microsoft which has no exclusive games worth caring about at the moment and Pizza Hut apps as substitutes.
There is literally NO rational reasoning in assuming or even entertaining the idea that they're making Mario Kart.
Who is to blame if not the head of the company?
Good. Iwata is one of the best parts of Nintendo, despite the recent hate on Gaf for no real reason other than using him as a scapegoat.
Sony would be better off with a game developer as their CEO, too, and certainly Microsoft which has no exclusive games worth caring about at the moment and Pizza Hut apps as substitutes.
Nintendo hasn't stopped making western games. They rarely ever made them at all. They just made Nintendo games. The games that appeal to westerners has drastically changed. Call of Duty's yearly releases outsell Super Mario Galaxy's lifetime sales every year. The West has basically become a place to sell cover shooters with chest high walls and medieval RPG's. Everything else is a crapshoot.
So essentially people want Nintendo EAD USA. I'd be down with that.
While I think they aren't working on Mario Kart, you can't say there isn't a rational reason to think that they could be.
Did anyone think they would be working on a 2d Donkey Kong game or help out on a portable kart game?
I'm in love with this.
People cry "This will be the end of Iwata"
Iwata: "I'm now promoted"
LOVE IT!
Nintendo hasn't stopped making western games. They rarely ever made them at all. They just made Nintendo games. The games that appeal to westerners has drastically changed. Call of Duty's yearly releases outsell Super Mario Galaxy's lifetime sales every year. The West has basically become a place to sell cover shooters with chest high walls and medieval RPG's. Everything else is a crapshoot.
Uh...what?
Care to explain a vast bulk of Rare's SNES/N64 output to me then? And that's just one studio.
Hell, I probably logged more hours playing Goldeneye multiplayer with my friends than any other N64 game COMBINED. And that was before the US got swept up in the console shooter craze.
While I think they aren't working on Mario Kart, you can't say there isn't a rational reason to think that they could be.
Did anyone think they would be working on a 2d Donkey Kong game or help out on a portable kart game?