Maybe...till Crisis Core comes into the picture.WildArms said:if PSP didn't have Monster Hunter, would it be pretty much Non-existant in Japan?
Anecdotal sight,I'm seeing lot's of people with PSP on bus/train/schools and very little DS everywhere.Pureauthor said:Um, dark10x, before you say Singapore has good taste, remember that we love our Maple Story and Korean MMOs. :lol
And anyway, where did anyone get concrete info on what's more popular in S'pore in the first place?
Defuser said:Maybe...till Crisis Core comes into the picture.
wow, 3rd parties are doing alot better on the PSP
titiklabingapat said:This is what mediocre tie ratio but overwhelming userbase looks like.
Pureauthor said:Hardware moves at a decent clip, but software wise... enh.
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UntoldDreams said:Why do people slam PSP sales so much? This chart proves only that its definitely profitable to make stuff for the PSP and DS both.
BANDAI Released 2 Dragonball Z games for PSP and DS each.
DS Total Sales: 317,078 + 136,441 = 453,519
PSP Total Sales: 140,863 + 78,227 = 219,090
If you were in charge of Bandai...
Why would you NOT want to make a game for PSP and make more money? To please haters?
UntoldDreams said:Why do people slam PSP sales so much?
UntoldDreams said:Why do people slam PSP sales so much? This chart proves only that its definitely profitable to make stuff for the PSP and DS both.
BANDAI Released 2 Dragonball Z games for PSP and DS each.
DS Total Sales: 317,078 + 136,441 = 453,519
PSP Total Sales: 140,863 + 78,227 = 219,090
If you were in charge of Bandai...
Why would you NOT want to make a game for PSP and make more money? To please haters?
Nuclear Muffin said:That DS tie ratio should really be better. It looks like the majority of people stick with certain types of games really.
Still, it`s not too shabby really. Handheld tie ratios are historically low anyway.
Tabris said:The DS is declining and the PSP is increasing in both hardware and software sales the last 2 months in Japan. The tide is turning.
Tabris said:The DS is declining and the PSP is increasing in both hardware and software sales the last 2 months in Japan. The tide is turning.
The PSP just has positive movement and feedback all around. We will settle into a comfortable 35/65 by the end of the market's life which should be considered a success by Sony for having taken 35% of Nintendo's market.
Tabris said:The DS is declining and the PSP is increasing in both hardware and software sales the last 2 months in Japan. The tide is turning.
The PSP just has positive movement and feedback all around. We will settle into a comfortable 35/65 by the end of the market's life which should be considered a success by Sony for having taken 35% of Nintendo's market.
Well, since Nintendo's set to eat ~75% of Sony's console market, seems like a fair trade. :lolTabris said:which should be considered a success by Sony for having taken 35% of Nintendo's market.
i feel special being one of the 2,426 who bought soundvoyager in japan :lol:Motorbass said::[ :[ :[
Tabris said:The DS is declining and the PSP is increasing in both hardware and software sales the last 2 months in Japan. The tide is turning.
jarrod said:I wonder if Nintendo's MH3-tri deal means no 3rd Portable iteration too? Aren't the Portable games largely based off the console titles?
Makes me wonder if Nintendo was more looking at stealing the most successful PSP series versus nabbing a specific PS3 exclusive?
donny2112 said:Looking at the last 8 weeks:
PSP: 718,998
DS: 632,168
PSP: +86,830
LTD up to that point:
PSP: 5,879,599
DS: 19,100,856
DS: +13,221,257
If you look at the last 10 weeks, DS is ahead of PSP by 108K. Also, DS has been ahead of PSP for the last 3 weeks.
Tabris said:The DS is declining and the PSP is increasing in both hardware and software sales the last 2 months in Japan. The tide is turning.
The PSP just has positive movement and feedback all around. We will settle into a comfortable 35/65 by the end of the market's life which should be considered a success by Sony for having taken 35% of Nintendo's market.
Yeah, I guess it really all depends on the details of the exclusive deal. Even if it's a year, I can see Port 3rd coming after that...Kiriku said:Do we even know if MH3 is time-exclusive or not? Or only a Wii exclusive concerning consoles? I don't remember how detailed the exclusivity was described in the press release.
I don't see why they suddenly would stop making PSP versions though, when clearly there's profit to be made on the platform. Well, unless they're getting a lot of money-hats or similar from Nintendo of course.
But I'm sure we'll see a PSP version sooner or later. Just slap a different subtitle on the box, throw in some extra material and call it a day. After all, Capcom is hardly unfamiliar with that routine.![]()
Nintendo DS by Publisher
# of games - Publisher - Total sales - Average sales per game
80 Nintendo - 51,498,065 Avg - 643,726
12 Square Enix - 4,746,359 Avg - 395,530
28 Bandai - 3,962,256 Avg - 141,509
23 Sega - 2,725,047 Avg - 118,480
12 Capcom - 2,011,083 Avg - 167,590
32 Konami - 1,835,333 Avg - 57,354
17 Namco - 1,475,827 Avg - 86,813
You know, just cause a game published by a 3rd Party doesn't sell as well as one that is published by Nintendo, that doesn't mean the companies aren't finding raging success.Drek said:So does this finally end the argument that Nintendo completely obliterates all other 3rd parties on their formats?
Seriously. No one should ever bitch about 3rd party support on Nintendo platforms again. Look at those numbers, what 3rd party in their right mind wouldn't run like mad away from that?
SE is the only one who's average game is even half of Nintendo's average game. Why compete in such a lopsided market when MS and Sony will effectively pay you not to?
One who's only alternative was a strunggling software platform like PSP? Maybe?Drek said:Look at those numbers, what 3rd party in their right mind wouldn't run like mad away from that?
Drek said:So does this finally end the argument that Nintendo completely obliterates all other 3rd parties on their formats?
Drek said:So does this finally end the argument that Nintendo completely obliterates all other 3rd parties on their formats?
Seriously. No one should ever bitch about 3rd party support on Nintendo platforms again. Look at those numbers, what 3rd party in their right mind wouldn't run like mad away from that?
SE is the only one who's average game is even half of Nintendo's average game. Why compete in such a lopsided market when MS and Sony will effectively pay you not to?
Drek said:Seriously. No one should ever bitch about 3rd party support on Nintendo platforms again. Look at those numbers, what 3rd party in their right mind wouldn't run like mad away from that?
SE is the only one who's average game is even half of Nintendo's average game. Why compete in such a lopsided market when MS and Sony will effectively pay you not to?
Company: NDS Total: PSP Total: NDS Avg: PSP Avg:
Square Enix 4,746,359 1,458,950 395,530 243,158
Bandai 3,962,256 1,451,544 141,509 69,121
Sega 2,725,047 880,861 118,480 58,724
Capcom 2,011,083 2,672,232 167,590 222,686
Konami 1,835,333 1,915,853 57,354 79,827
Namco 1,475,827 1,925,716 86,813 101,353
Marvelous 781,287 176,708 71,026 25,244
Hudson 601,047 88,076 42,932 22,019
Spike 465,770 13,990 77,628 6,995
Banpresto 456,532 140,483 91,306 46,828
EA 250,723 159,589 35,818 14,508
Atlus 168,881 35,466 56,294 17,733
Taito 199,376 29,296 18,125 17,406
Company: NDS Total: PS3 Total: NDS Avg: PS3 Avg:
Sega 2,725,047 151,838 118,480 37,960
Konami 1,835,333 81,068 57,354 40,534
Actually, we're working on putting that together right now. We should have it up shortly, and then it will be updated on a regular basis along with the charts.Hcoregamer00 said:Get a PSP sales by publisher and get the average per game, then we can talk.
That was never really an argument though. The truth is that Nintendo obliterates all other publishers regardless of platform. You can add all the platforms together, and Nintendo still dominates any and every other publisher.Drek said:So does this finally end the argument that Nintendo completely obliterates all other 3rd parties on their formats?
jarrod said:Yeah, I guess it really all depends on the details of the exclusive deal. Even if it's a year, I can see Port 3rd coming after that...
That was a backhanded bitchslap if I ever saw one.:lolHaunted One said:oh snap. :bow ethel
Eagerly awaiting Drek's response to that post.
edwardslane said:after seeing those Ds numbers, the psp software sales are pretty lackluster.
If you're any company looking to design a game.. the DS is without a doubt the choice. way bigger user base, cheaper development costs.
Tabris said:The DS is declining and the PSP is increasing in both hardware and software sales the last 2 months in Japan. The tide is turning.
The PSP just has positive movement and feedback all around. We will settle into a comfortable 35/65 by the end of the market's life which should be considered a success by Sony for having taken 35% of Nintendo's market.
ccbfan said:Nah its not that bad at all for the PSP.
If you take out the first party games for both systems, they're both pretty comparable. Remember good first party sales have never translated to good third party sales for nintendo systems and third parties know that.
46,210 Goku Makaimura (Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins) (Capcom) (8/3/06) through Dec 31/06 (MC)
ethelred said:Wow, it's almost like I never posted at all.
Tell me, what do you consider "comparable?" Because if I take out first party sales for the DS and the PSP, it certainly looks to me like third parties have sold twice as much software on the DS compared to the PSP. This is "comparable?"
Hey, guys, seriously, I know it's fun to just spout off whatever nonsense pops into your brains, but when all the numbers are right here, it wouldn't actually kill you to do a bit of simple stats beforehand.
schild said:Guys, DS games don't make that much moneyThe margins are pretty shitty. Please don't compare the UMD to it. It's just silly. Very, very few companies are getting 1 money hat off the DS let alone MANY money hats.
Now Wii vs PS3 is a different story. But then, if you're putting it out for the Wii, you might as well put it out on the PS2 also.
6,585,261 DS
Oh shit, how did I miss that? PSP beat Phat. Though I guess "PSP Fat" didn't, since that includes a few hundred thousand Slim.PSP 6,598,597