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Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds

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entremet

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Do you think this is a social anxiety thing or a fear of intimacy thing? I remember reading there was concern with young people/teenagers watching too much pornography and the realities of sex would be off-putting to them, because of of the bodily fluids and so on.

It's the work culture primarily. The younger generations are rebelling.

Porn is an interesting argument honestly. Hard to say. For example, Utah has pretty high porn consumption rates. However, it's also dominated by Mormons, whose faith forbids the consumption of porn. Obviously religious hypocrisy is nothing new.

But Utah also has high family formation rates. So religion is a promoter of family formation.
 

Luschient

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Japan has but 70 male porn actors for every 10,000 female porn actors.

Shit is crazy over there.

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Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yes, but girls here in Osaka use them mostly to learn English and find language exchange partners. >_<

The fuck? People swiping right so they can learn English. Wow. Are they using Grindr to get help with math too?
 

Squalor

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This is stupid, though.

The world doesn't have a population shortage. We don't need more people.

Japan just needs to get over itself and accept more immigrants. There are plenty of people out there in countries with too many people.
 
Yes, fix the work culture. Cuz' that's a problem in high school and college...

This is stupid, though.

The world doesn't have a population shortage. We don't need more people.

Japan just needs to get over itself and accept more immigrants. There are plenty of people out there in countries with too many people.

Because sex always leads to increased population, and the only way to stop it is virgins.
 

Izuna

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Do you think this is a social anxiety thing or a fear of intimacy thing? I remember reading there was concern with young people/teenagers watching too much pornography and the realities of sex would be off-putting to them, because of the bodily fluids and so on.

If you ask someone to do you a favour in Japan, it's rude to say no. So it's nice to not ask.

You can see the problem this causes.
 

Kater

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Do you think this is a social anxiety thing or a fear of intimacy thing? I remember reading there was concern with young people/teenagers watching too much pornography and the realities of sex would be off-putting to them, because of the bodily fluids and so on.
Strange because they feature a lot of sloppy kissing, squirting and lots of cum in their porn from what I've seen.
 

Madao

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This is stupid, though.

The world doesn't have a population shortage. We don't need more people.

Japan just needs to get over itself and accept more immigrants. There are plenty of people out there in countries with too many people.

i think that one will be fixed the hard way.

basically, they'll only do that once their economy crashes.
 

Izuna

Banned
Don't worry, reduced the number by one of them last month.

Now the long-distance relationship begins tho :(

...

a month ago you had sex with a Japanese girl... and you're committed to a relationship?

I look forward to your relationship thread.
 

kewlmyc

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So I assume the shitty work culture is that Japan has crazy work hours. In the past, it'd be just men working while women stay at home to raise kids, but now the new generation women are working as well leaving no time to raise kids and Japan higher ups haven't adjusted to it yet? That's just my guess.
 

Squalor

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Because sex always leads to increased population, and the only way to stop it is virgins.
People's being virgins isn't the issue. It's that the county has the oldest population, a shrinking population, and since there are so many virgins, nothing on the horizon is stopping those trends. How could you possibly be that blind?
 

entremet

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This is stupid, though.

The world doesn't have a population shortage. We don't need more people.

Japan just needs to get over itself and accept more immigrants. There are plenty of people out there in countries with too many people.

Well it's deeper than this, though.

Japan is still a nation state and we're still organized as nation states primarily. Their economy, social welfare programs, infrastructure all depend on replacement level population to support. They are way below that. Most Western countries are.

However, unlike other countries, Japan has always had a very strict immigration policy. This is what is hurting them.

The immigration policy comes from very real nationalistic sentiment to preserve the Japanese way of life and culture. You would be naive not to understand this is the reason they've been so reluctant on immigration.

So it's not an underpopulation problem, it's a Japan remaining a viable economy problem.
 

Fluvian

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Everybody says we need to do something about overpopulation, but the second Japan actually goes ahead and does it everybody freaks out.
The only thing that's gonna get that birthing rate up is a radical change of the Japanese lifestyle, seriously I don't know how they expect anyone to maintain a relationship or have kids with such an overwhelming work culture, even High school/college kids would probably be too busy studying and working to fuck each other.
 

entremet

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Everybody says we need to do something about overpopulation, but the second Japan actually goes ahead and does it everybody freaks out.
The only thing that's gonna get that birthing rate up is a radical change of the Japanese lifestyle, seriously I don't know how they expect anyone to maintain a relationship or have kids with such an overwhelming work culture, even High school/college kids would probably be too busy studying and working to fuck each other.

Again the overpopulation problem is poor science and doesn't explain the economic realties at play when an entire first world nation is not replacing it's population adequately, both through native childbirth and immigration--which are very low for an industrialized first world economy.
 
People's being virgins isn't the issue. It's that the county has the oldest population, a shrinking population, and since there are so many virgins, nothing on the horizon is stopping those trends. How could you possibly be that blind?

But you were arguing about overpopulation ,where you indicate in this post that's not a problem in Japan. And this thread is about the endemic levels of virginity in the growing subset of the Japanese population. Being a virgin and not having sex are two different things. And it's not like other countries aren't faced with the same socio-economic realities, they still manage to have sex.
 

Izuna

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Multiply this stat with the rumoured 30% of women achieve orgasms via sex and this becomes very depressing.

The Host industry would not make any sense in the west.
 
It's the work culture primarily. The younger generations are rebelling.

Porn is an interesting argument honestly. Hard to say. For example, Utah has pretty high porn consumption rates. However, it's also dominated by Mormons, whose faith forbids the consumption of porn. Obviously religious hypocrisy is nothing new.

But Utah also has high family formation rates. So religion is a promoter of family formation.

Good points, I have 2 questions.

Is alcohol as liberally consumed in Japan as it is in Europe and North America? I know they're incredibly strict with their drug laws, I just don't know how liberally they drink.

Is there any concerted effort by the government to push marriage and procreation?
 

Condom

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Well it's deeper than this, though.

Japan is still a nation state and we're still organized as nation states primarily. Their economy, social welfare programs, infrastructure all depend on replacement level population to support. They are way below that. Most Western countries are.

However, unlike other countries, Japan has always had a very strict immigration policy. This is what is hurting them.

The immigration policy comes from very real nationalistic sentiment to preserve the Japanese way of life and culture. You would be naive not to understand this is the reason they've been so reluctant on immigration.

So it's not an underpopulation problem, it's a Japan remaining a viable economy problem.
They can improve their productivity to offset the lack of births. Their population is half what it is now in 2050. That should not be a problem if they can make sure an average Japanese person produces twice (?) the value as today. They have to innovate rapidly to do that but it's possible in theory.
 

AHA-Lambda

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Given how messed up their sex culture is, you'd think people would actually be out trying to have sex though :/

Then again, I just can't fathom how having a virtual waifu is better than having actual sex...
 
They can improve their productivity to offset the lack of births. Their population is half what it is now in 2050. That should not be a problem if they can make sure an average Japanese person produces twice (?) the value as today. They have to innovate rapidly to do that but it's possible in theory.

And how would you increase individual productivity? Double the work hours? Considering the amount of offset about to be caused by automation, LOL.

Good. Keep the population go smaller. The world needs less people

I don't know where people get the idea that the world faces an overpopulation problem. The real problem is that we aren't utilizing the most healthiest practices to accommodate the growing population. If the world switched to green governmental policies and technologies whole-heartedly (and It's not a pipe dream, plenty of places have done it already), there would be no reason to scream murder about scarce resources.
 

Ferr986

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I still find hard to believe this is just work culture when even younger people don't even have sex.

We are not talking about having kids or a family, just sex. Not even once.
 

Izuna

Banned
I thought GAF was going to step in and solve this problem.

You guys are so slow.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1253412

They might be trying to

Good points, I have 2 questions.

Is alcohol as liberally consumed in Japan as it is in Europe and North America? I know they're incredibly strict with their drug laws, I just don't know how liberally they drink.

Is there any concerted effort by the government to push marriage and procreation?

Japanese people get fucking wasted, but with colleagues

There are love hotels all over the place (all over the place) because young people can't have sex at home.
 

Madao

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Good. Keep the population go smaller. The world needs less people

i'm doing my part since my country's population is growing.

and the government is helping since everything gets more expensive every day, which kills any interest in creating a family.
 
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