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Jeff Gertsmann's Comments about Third Parties Picking a Side
- Thread starter Miles Quaritch
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It's in Polish. I asked if there's any problem with Xbox One, and they said that the production is going fine. So yeah, it's not 100% confirmation and everything, but I'll take it
.Just an e-mail to the PR lady.
Because it's only favors the Haves. The pool of money being spent is finite. And if gamers can't recycle games, they'll buy less. And choose surer things. This benefits the AAAA titles. The CoD, Maddens, and Battlefields will get even more sales now. Everyone who's not a slam duck, will see their sales shrink. It's not that difficult to see why some wouldn't be all that thrilled at a redistribution that's going to favor the rich IPs even more.
Families with multiple kids (myself having one son) can all play the same game on the same console, and apparently the same Xbox Gold subscription. What get's me is the entire 'lending' a game to a friend thing.
Paracelsus
Member
This would declare the absolute death of mid-tier developers and publishers, and it's not like this gen they had it easy. I'm not sure for how long you can life off a moneyhat if the market is hogged entirely by two/three huge publishers and their games.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
companys will pick the one in first place.
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
I was thinking more of an Eastern/Western divide myself since it doesn't look like MS are doing much to court Japanese developers this time around. I suppose one or two of the new IP could be from Japanese studios though.
Zombie James
Banned
They must be thrilled by all this positive press and excitement around this feature.
Very good point.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Which is why I forsee Sony not having a system level approach, but an open approach. If a publisher wants it so bad let them shoulder that, truth is publishers don't want to look like the bad guy in all this. EA could block used game sales for their games on PS360 whenever they wanted to, yet they didn't. Wonder why?
It's all going to be about the bottom line in the end. If curbing used games results in lower software sales altogether, it's going to be pretty telling that curbing used games does not result in making more money.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
This is true as well. I just hope people vote with their wallet and let these guys know that they don't want this. If people value consumer choice and mid tier and indie studios then they have to make sure platforms like PS4 and even the Wii U come out on top. The worst thing that could happen is if the Xbox sells hand over fist better than those 2. Then they really have us over the barrel and start writing goodbye letters to studios.
Reave
Member
That's entirely possible. I just hope it won't turn into years and years of developers forcing Xbox One's policies to work by pouring exclusive content to the console before they eventually shift focus. It would be a shame for the console war to hinge on such an ulterior motive.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I completely disagree. I see around 600+ kids a week at my job. Ages 6-12. All they talk about is minecraft on Xbox. I mean it's the ONLY thing they talk about. I assume they all play online together, but I have no idea. I think the new Xbox is a given for these kids as Christmas gifts, even before they start begging for them.
My favorite bad parenting scenario I use to illustrate how parents are push overs today is that one time I had a conference with a parent over how awful his kid was. Total terrorist. Bullies, steals, etc. After telling this guy as politically correct as possible that his child is the spawn of satan. He acts as though he is concerned and understands. Then says, "Hey Billy, wanna go get ice cream?"
Or one I see all the time. Kid screams and begs he wants [fill in the blank]. Parents finally give in. "I'll get it if you stop crying."
In other words, if kids want the new Xbox, they're gonna get one.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yup. Sony is too big for the big pubs to miss out with their top franchises. As most people here said, the big franchises such as COD, BF, FIFA etc are all multiplatform. I see smaller projects being exclusive though.
Devilgunman
Member
I don't believe any developer will choose which side they want to be on based on company's used game policy. The most important factor is install base. Developer should have realized that MS pissed off customers ---> customers refuse to buy XB1 and choose PS4 ----> PS4 have larger install base. Regardless of used game policy, devs and publisher will always side with a console aiming for their target audiences and having larger install base.
The death of the games industry right before us.
chickdigger802
Banned
This really is turning into a game of streetball.
Wonder who won the coin toss to pick first?
Wonder who won the coin toss to pick first?
I think his comments are a bit overblown. He was referring to the fact that there will be some third party exclusives again at the beginning of next gen (Ryse, Titan, etc)
Pubs need both consoles to survive and stuff like timed exclusive DLC don't sway people's decisions much.
Pubs need both consoles to survive and stuff like timed exclusive DLC don't sway people's decisions much.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I agree but only if the Xbox doesn't jump out into a crazy lead in sales. I don't think it will, I think ultimately the install base for the PS4 will be so large it will be impossible to ignore. As part of some cosmic justice I hope 3rd party games sell more on the PS4 than the Xbox.
Reave
Member
True, but there might be a new motive behind timed exclusives and DLC now.
Perhaps developers might choose to give that stuff to Xbox One to push for that version to sell more in order to make Xbox One -- strict policies and all -- more successful than PS4... just so a used PS4 version of ______ won't be as much of a financial hit.
It's a far out scenario, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Neuromancer
Member
Xbox One can have EA. They deserve each other.
Nocturno999
Member
If Sony gets a significant lead early, it's very likely that betrayalthons will ensue. This could happen to MS too but I doubt that will happen after the terrible first impression.
shinra-bansho
Member
This is far too rational. Obviously EA has gone exclusive...
Anyway, to take it further, it would probably actually be good if one of the two systems doesn't implement systemic draconian measures - as it allows them to hedge their bets even more.
Aaron Strife
Banned
If gamers support Xbox One over consoles that don't trample on consumers' rights I'm sick of you all
BRocknRolla
Member
Seems far too early to know. I don't think there's probably been enough dev experience for creators with either console, and if some weird quirk makes one more difficult than the other, that seems like it would have a greater effect than company policies.
Any variety of other things might have an effect. So while imagine on some level devs will take a side, it won't be now, and it could be for something no one even understands yet. The rub though? A paycheck from Sony or MS would have a way of changing devs minds.
Any variety of other things might have an effect. So while imagine on some level devs will take a side, it won't be now, and it could be for something no one even understands yet. The rub though? A paycheck from Sony or MS would have a way of changing devs minds.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
That doesn't make any sense. The two consoles share a lot of silicon, which would make porting even easier than before.
why ? What is the difference with multiple kids. A family would have to buy multiple copies of a game on the ps4 or xbox one to play the same game at the same time.
This is such a funny stance, why should gamers who want to play Halo ect, not do so because you don't agree with MS's antics?
They don't play with each other. When I was a kid, I borrowed my brothers games all the time. What happens when, even if you're using the same console, you want to make a new game and it's one of those many titles that only has one save slot?
Aaron Strife
Banned
Anyone willing to give up their rights as a customer to play a goddamn video game is a silly individual
clifftrapremover
Member
I'm not sure the used issue will cause publishers to wholesale defect to the ONE but it'll definitely curry some favor with the larger companies, the exact ones that MS is now targeting. Guess their plan is to keep the publishers happy at the cost of the gamer.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I'm pretty sure that someone is getting rights to my first born through a EULA. But who has time to read those things?
lot of silly pc gamers out there
graywolf323
Member
It's in Polish. I asked if there's any problem with Xbox One, and they said that the production is going fine. So yeah, it's not 100% confirmation and everything, but I'll take it
Just an e-mail to the PR lady.
PR doesn't always know what they're talking about so I would take that with a huge grain of salt
I don't think any publisher (save for EA, who are stupid) will risk half their install base for the possibility of reduced piracy/used game sales. Especially when used game sales are put back into new game purchases.
EA at most is going to watch early console sales and adjust their partnerships accordingly.
EA at most is going to watch early console sales and adjust their partnerships accordingly.
This.
In my friend circle no one plans to buy xbone (because of used games). I plan to buy one if it will be compatible with Fanatec wheels but that is 10 to 1 at least.
I am not saying this is ratio which consoles will be sold. Anti-used protections will be pretty much meaningless to developers if xbone will sell less.
graywolf323
Member
yep, so far EA's biggest games are only giving exclusive dlc not becoming exclusive
FranXico
Member
If anything, most indie developers will be upset and just run over to Sony, who even promises to allow them to self-publish their games.
Don't expect the Axis of Evil (EA, Activision, Ubisoft) to feel that way, though.
The PC has "options" to the DD model should they try to screw the customer in a way where the customer loses the ability to play games based on unfair business decisions.
Neuromancer
Member
Edit: disregard
ArchangelWest
Member
While I hear that side definitely, I'm far more concerned that that is the priority in people's minds over the fact that MS wants us to pay them to place a state of the art camera with a microphone, voice recognition, and always online into our homes.
No.