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[Bizazedo]

This was a good sequel that didn't quite meet my expectations. But I guess it had to do some of the lifting that the first film didn't do since it wasn't designed to have any sequels and I felt the pacing in this movie had to suffer for it. Also, the director and editing of John Wick was better so naturally after all this I felt that the pacing and action (memorable scenes) to be better which is what I truly care about in films like these. The dialogue (or lack of) and characters were better in John Wick as well.

John Wick 2 did a good job expanding the world on a movie that was meant to be a a single movie and it also did a good job I thought setting up John Wick 3.

I look forward to the next one

Agree on all counts. Also felt the antagonists were better in the first movie than this one. Mute Ruby Rose, annoying leader guy...meh.

Kassian stood out, but he wasn't really an enemy, just someone fate drove to fight Wick. I dunno.

I also felt the fights were too samey this time around. Boom, headshot, boom, headshot. I appreciated it and individually they were probably better than the first movie, but it was .... repetitive.

Maybe the car style fight in the beginning movie needed to be later to break it up a bit? /shrug.

All hail Peter Stormare, though.

 

[Laughing Banana]

I also like how movie, I think, made a point that John Wick, despite his effort of leaving his world away, is not really a "good guy" and in the end his karma caught up to him, heh.

 

[Kibbles]

Common's scenes with Keanu were amazing lol the stairs part had me rolling

 

[SRG01]

Common's scenes with Keanu were amazing lol the stairs part had me rolling

I hope that pun was intentional

 

[Brakke]

Common's scenes with Keanu were amazing lol the stairs part had me rolling

You weren't the only one rolling. 🙃🤣😆

 

[Haines]

Is there an explantion if the blood coin stuff.

I really didnt pick up on the origin of the blood deal. All i got was that you cant turn it down some reason.

 

[Aaronology]

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I was under the assumption that Winston was in control of all the continentals since he had all that power to get John that one hour. I'm going by what he tells Santino that the Continental is his Kingdom.

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There's really nothing to indicate Winston is "Management" over both The Continental and Il Continentale. He and Julius appear to be counterparts, and I imagine there are other branches replete with their own heads in every alpha city in the world, each the absolute power within their own domain. As for the hour, Wick broke the Rules in Winston's establishment. We see his has some leeway in how he doles out the punishment. For all we know Julius could have delayed Wick's excommunication by an hour as well had John shot Santino in Rome and not New York.

This universe desperately needs to be expanded! At this point I'd love a book or two and I hope the TV series lands on Netflix or HBO.

 

[SRG01]

Is there an explantion if the blood coin stuff.

I really didnt pick up on the origin of the blood deal. All i got was that you cant turn it down some reason.

The coins

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are basically blood oaths, in that the holder can call the other person for a task or favor, no questions asked.

 

[Aaronology]

Aaronology misattributing quotes worse than the GOP

Whoops! lol.

 

[Qvoth]

Is there an explantion if the blood coin stuff.

I really didnt pick up on the origin of the blood deal. All i got was that you cant turn it down some reason.

you can't turn it down because it's one of rules of the world, winston mentioned there are 2, 1st is no business on company grounds, 2nd is you can't go back on an oath

 

[Laughing Banana]

Is there an explantion if the blood coin stuff.

I really didnt pick up on the origin of the blood deal. All i got was that you cant turn it down some reason.

The "impossible job" mentioned in the 1st John Wick, he did it with the help of Santiano and to secure that help, he swore a blood oath using that coin in that in the future he is obliged to do whatever Santiano requests him to do.

 

[Zen Aku]

Aaronology misattributing quotes worse than the GOP

"I like to open up an account under 'whatsinaname', price $1.50."

U A DEDMAN

 

[v1lla21]

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I feel like the oath was pretty much sorry what you're about to go through but if you survive you can call on me for anything. Don't know how that'll work since he's excommunicated.

 

[Aaronology]

It's funny to think that Iosef being a spoiled asshole and breaking into John's house would start a chain of events that would result in well over 200 people dying in the span of a month or two.

 

[Zen Aku]

It's funny to think that Iosef being a spoiled asshole and breaking into John's house would start a chain of events that would result in well over 200 people dying in the span of a month or two.

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

It's funny to think that Iosef being a spoiled asshole and breaking into John's house would start a chain of events that would result in well over 200 people dying in the span of a month or two.

Fucking Iosef

 

[timetokill]

Seriously, it's not a question:

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she's dead

.

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They even show her eyes go dead at the end of her shot. She is literally shown dead on screen.

 

[kopitarrulez_11]

Common's scenes with Keanu were amazing lol the stairs part had me rolling

How about the nonchalant shootout in the subway I was just dying how they kept missing bystanders

 

[bigboss370]

movie was great but more than anything it made me want to go watch the Raid movies and pine for Raid 3

 

[Haines]

The "impossible job" mentioned in the 1st John Wick, he did it with the help of Santiano and to secure that help, he swore a blood oath using that coin in that in the future he is obliged to do whatever Santiano requests him to do.

Ok, so now that i understand the blood oath coin.

Why would he do that to get help to be free when the oath means he wont be free when asked for the favor?

 

[sirap]

Ok, so now that i understand the blood oath coin.

Why would he do that to get help to be free when the oath means he wont be free when asked for the favor?

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Because completing that "impossible task" for the Russians allowed him to retire, which Santino chose to honor. Idk, seems like a shitty deal for Santino if he knew Wick was retiring lol.

TBH not a lot is made clear about that.

 

[Toothless]

John Wick: Chapter Two is definitely an improvement on its predecessor. The ugly Matrix-lite aesthetic is gone and replaced with a beautiful color palette. The action scenes are kicked up a notch, both in brutality and in creativity. The worldbuilding is again fascinating, bringing us even deeper into this assassin's world. Reeves' presence is still welcome, and Common is actually pretty awesome in this.

It's just a shame that it has the same flaw of the original in that we have no reason to care for John Wick, or any character in the movie. This was fine in the first film since a dog's death makes one inherently sympathetic, but now that that's been avenged, why should we care about his struggle? A lot of the action feels like empty spectacle due to this, and it's hard to care about any part of the story, especially during the 40-minute-long boring set-up to the actual plot of the film. Also, two much lesser flaws... but Fishburne is wasted in an almost hilarious way, and the non-action cinematography feels super cheap at points.

John Wick: Chapter Two is plenty of fun. The action is ridiculously cool, and the cinematography is really impressive. Unfortunately, the script is both underwritten and bloated that leaves one with a disappointing feeling overall. That said, the action in these films is so fantastic that it's still well worth seeing in theaters, and leaves one at least somewhat excited for a third installment. Too bad it can't be more than that.

 

[spootime]

Just saw this today. About halfway through the whole "shoot someone and roll around with them on the ground while you shoot their buddies and then execute them" thing was getting kind of old. Every action scene is him doing that

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Goddamn. This movie was absolutely badass. Just unrelenting.

I'm dying for the 3rd film already walking out the theater.

 

[SolidChamp]

Just saw this today. About halfway through the whole "shoot someone and roll around with them on the ground while you shoot their buddies and then execute them" thing was getting kind of old. Every action scene is him doing that

Except for, you know, all the ones that weren't that.

Gimme a break.

 

[rec0ded1]

Just saw this today. About halfway through the whole "shoot someone and roll around with them on the ground while you shoot their buddies and then execute them" thing was getting kind of old. Every action scene is him doing that

I felt the same way and really started feeling like an old man when I started thinking I was watching murder porn. I still enjoyed the flick but I wanted more car chase stuff.

The scene where

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bad guy says "what kind of man would I be if i didn't avenge my sisters death?"

really got me riled up lol.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

It's just a shame that it has the same flaw of the original in that we have no reason to care for John Wick, or any character in the movie. This was fine in the first film since a dog's death makes one inherently sympathetic, but now that that's been avenged, why should we care about his struggle?

Because he just wanted out after avenging the death of his wife by proxy of the dog. This is reinforced by him calling for peace after getting the car back.

The struggle is him getting pulled back in after he thought he was done. For this kinda world with this kinda fiction I didn't mind...now what I DID mind was Wick's seemingly indestructible body...stabbed, shot, hit by a car, no problem...but again, I accept that in THIS world, it works. <shrugs>

 

[Toothless]

Because he just wanted out after avenging the death of his wife by proxy of the dog. This is reinforced by him calling for peace after getting the car back.

The struggle is him getting pulled back in after he thought he was done. For this kinda world with this kinda fiction I didn't mind...now what I DID mind was Wick's seemingly indestructible body...stabbed, shot, hit by a car, no problem...but again, I accept that in THIS world, it works. <shrugs>

Nah, but I cared about the dog. Why should I care about him getting his car back

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especially considered he near totals it by the end of that scene?

I don't know. This is definitely a good movie, but there's a lot more they could've done character-wise to keep me interested.

 

[Brakke]

Lol no, John doesn't get any credit for making "peace" with Stormare. Stormare would've just given him the car back, but John had to go and merc like sixteen of Stormare's dude's first, unprovoked.

 

[Aaronology]

Nah, but I cared about the dog. Why should I care about him getting his car back

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especially considered he near totals it by the end of that scene?

I don't know. This is definitely a good movie, but there's a lot more they could've done character-wise to keep me interested.

The car was important.

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The note from his wife was clearly what he was after, though. Both movies hammer home how much he values every single thing she left behind. It's odd that this is being missed.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

Nah, but I cared about the dog. Why should I care about him getting his car back

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especially considered he near totals it by the end of that scene?

I don't know. This is definitely a good movie, but there's a lot more they could've done character-wise to keep me interested.

Because it is about getting back THAT car, specifically for sentimental value. Wouldn't matter if it was a heap or not, otherwise he would have just replaced it with the same car, exact car.

Johnny Dub is, if nothing else, sappy.

 

[orochi91]

Ok, so now that i understand the blood oath coin.

Why would he do that to get help to be free when the oath means he wont be free when asked for the favor?

Santiano said that if John had stayed retired, then he would have respected that decision and would never have invoked the Blood Oath.

John's actions in the first film brought him out of retirement, which coincided with Santiano's ambitions, regarding the seat at the High Table.

It was just bad timing on John's behalf.

Nah, but I cared about the dog. Why should I care about him getting his car back

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especially considered he near totals it by the end of that scene?

I don't know. This is definitely a good movie, but there's a lot more they could've done character-wise to keep me interested.

He wanted the car back for sentimental reasons, primarily because of the card his wife left him, which was in the glove-box of the car.

 

[AniHawk]

Seriously, it's not a question:

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she's dead

.

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They even show her eyes go dead at the end of her shot. She is literally shown dead on screen.

plus that final exchange:

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'be seeing you'
'sure'

john's basically aware of the endgame. we even see him at piece with it when he's home later. he's going to kill santino and it doesn't matter what happens after that.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Looovvved this movie. Gonna try to see catch it again with a few different friends, given the chance.

Weak link was Ruby Rose IMO - her character played out like a cheesy Fast and the Furious character, and felt really out of place. But not enough to be detrimental to my enjoying the film.

Hope this movies does well enough in the BO so the sequel can be what it needs to be.

 

[More_Badass]

Looovvved this movie. Gonna try to see catch it again with a few different friends, given the chance.

Weak link was Ruby Rose IMO - her character played out like a cheesy Fast and the Furious character, and felt really out of place. But not enough to be detrimental to my enjoying the film.

Hope this movies does well enough in the BO so the sequel can be what it needs to be.

By far the biggest surprise was “John Wick: Chapter 2,” which took in $30 million in its debut, close to double what the original made in 2014. The healthy result easily topped industry projections of $20 million.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...el-scores-explosive-30m-weekend/#5325aee03b74

Along with rave reviews and strong word-of-mouth (an A- from Cinemascore, as opposed to a B for the first one, likely due to playing to fans and a lack of puppy murder), the other good news is that this sequel had the same weekend multiplier (2.6x) as the first film, meaning that it wasn't additionally front-loaded by virtue of being a sequel and more of a known entity.

 

[Pyccko]

Just saw it. Pretty F'ing good. I think the total paucity of plot in the first movie (dog dead, kill guys) worked better than the slightly overcomplicated plot in this one but overall, I ain't disappointed. The locales were beautifully shot, the action scenes were sometimes a bit overlong, but wonderfully choreographed, and Keanu might finally be showing signs of aging, yet he still has that charisma. And of course, Common is always a welcome presence.

One thing that bugged me is when they would talk about the guns it seemed to turn into a sponsored commercial, like the filmmakers were actively advertising for gun manufacturers. Felt a little gross. Hope it isn't quite so brazen in number 3.

 

[SolidChamp]

He wanted the car back for sentimental reasons, primarily because of the card his wife left him, which was in the glove-box of the car.

I am baffled as to how this is being missed. The man is grieving. It was never about the dog or the car, it's about what those things mean to him in the context of his grieving process and his ability to cope with losing someone who was literally the most important thing in his life.

Everyone always mentions the dog without the context of what the dog meant, and it's annoying.

 

[Zen Aku]

Common was surprisingly good in this. I hope they bring him back.

 

[Brakke]

Common was a cool killer boy in Smokin' Aces previously.

 

[Haines]

Santiano said that if John had stayed retired, then he would have respected that decision and would never have invoked the Blood Oath.

John's actions in the first film brought him out of retirement, which coincided with Santiano's ambitions, regarding the seat at the High Table.

It was just bad timing on John's behalf.

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Feels like some weak writing tbh. Maybe if i watch it again it will come off better. But seems like a wierd thing to do an oath and respect never getting your half or whatever. Like hey lets do this oath even tho ill never use it?

I see what they were going for. Johns only way out. Needed to do it. Just feels loose.

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

Feels like some weak writing tbh. Maybe if i watch it again it will come off better. But seems like a wierd thing to do an oath and respect never getting your half or whatever. Like hey lets do this oath even tho ill never use it?

I see what they were going for. Johns only way out. Needed to do it. Just feels loose.

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Santino's a rat fuck who killed his own sister. I bet he had every intention of using it if he were ever in a position to where he had no other choice. It's an emergency backup plan that he hoped he would never have to use.

 

[jmood88]

Oh and as much I like both movies, Keanu still can't act to save his life. The last few lines about killing everyone were delivered particularly horribly.

 

[HoJu]

yeah i love Keanu but he's not good in these movies when he's not shooting and doing flips.
also lol:

john wick: I need to dispose of a body
bellhop: ok that costs one big gold coin
john wick: and id like a beer as well
bellhop: also one coin

 

[Ronin Ray]

I fell like this movie was so close to being a great all time classic but a few things really hurt it for me.

Ruby Rose

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I feel like they built her up and she did nothing at all and was such a huge step down form Cassian

The biggest sin this committed for me was peaking in the middle. I like my action movies to ramp up and I feel the last fight should always be the biggest challenge and this movie didn't have that.

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Best gun fight was in the tunnel, best fights were both encounters with Cassian. After dealing with him nothing else was a challenge for Wick and felt like a let down. I wish at the bar Wick and Cassian would have teamed up to take down the villain (who sucked and was forgettable in every way) Then they could have had there last fight at the end.

 

[Haines]

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My wife was also disappointed by the lack of a huge fight at the end.

It didn't bother me tho

 

[hiryu]

I watched this yesterday and had to sit in the front row because every other seat was sold out. Movie was so good I didn't mind sitting 10 feet from the screen. I think I like it better than the first but I'll have to watch it a few times more to know for sure. I loved the world building they did.

 

[Haines]

I watched this yesterday and had to sit in the front row because every other seat was sold out. Movie was so good I didn't mind sitting 10 feet from the screen. I think I like it better than the first but I'll have to watch it a few times more to know for sure. I loved the world building they did.

It felt like there was more story so it felt more complete.

But that also made it feels less tight but I was ok with that.

 

[OricWindstar]

How about the nonchalant shootout in the subway I was just dying how they kept missing bystanders

Favorite part of the movie for me. Fucking hilarious.

 

[scream]

Going to see this movie on Thursday. Cant wait.

 

[crisdecuba]

Just saw that the budget for this one was 40M - which is great since they'll get a great return on the investment, which is great because it helps assure we get a part 3 with perhaps a 60M budget (budget for the first was 20M).