YourMaster said:Sure it was, just look at the Wii to see how much more money they could have made.
Cygnus X-1 said:I didn't say that Wii is not a lot more profitable. I was stating that the gamecube wasn't a at all a console that generated losses, adding both hardware and software.
Because developers are focusing on HD like it's the second coming of christ. Everywhere you go, developers or gamers, everybody wants HD stuff. I get Sony and Microsoft, they have to differentiate themselves from Wii. But when gamers say things like "I wish it was HD" when something like MH3 and DQ X comes up, you're saying to developers: "Look, I don't want you to innovate the gameplay. I don't want you to try new things. I want higher resolution versions of the same old games. OK? Thanks."bdouble said:I'd take your point more seriously if developers were actually innovating on those aspects of the game. So far this gen its definitely not a focal point. I mean I'd argue that a game on the DS, Scribblenauts, is innovating more in physics category than probably everything out there besides LBP.
AniHawk said:The Gamecube era was helped along with GBA sales. The GC era was the first time Nintendo ever posted a loss for a quarter though.
RJT said:the "I don't really mean resolution when I say HD" guys:
Flying_Phoenix said:While I do admit that it doesn't look nearly as good as Dragon Quest IX, Moon, or Winds of Nostagio it really isn't that bad.
I don't want Kingdom Hearts 3 period.
Iwata said:"With the release of Dragon Quest IX, there are two things I'd like to make reality. The first is to build a thriving Japanese game market together with Dragon Quest that rivals the West's. The second is to form a strong tag team to promote Dragon Quest overseas. At Nintendo, we were able to popularize the Brain Age series overseas, which was said to be unmarketable. I want to increase the number of people worldwide that understand the appeal of Dragon Quest, which represents all Japanese gaming culture...even if that only turns out to be a single person. I'm looking forward to working together with Mr. Horii and Square Enix."
ksamedi said:Oh my, look at what Iwata is saying.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171782
This is great news for the series.
RJT said:Because developers are focusing on HD like it's the second coming of christ. Everywhere you go, developers or gamers, everybody wants HD stuff. I get Sony and Microsoft, they have to differentiate themselves from Wii. But when gamers say things like "I wish it was HD" when something like MH3 and DQ X comes up, you're saying to developers: "Look, I don't want you to innovate the gameplay. I don't want you to try new things. I want higher resolution versions of the same old games. OK? Thanks."
I'm a PC gamer, resolution for me is a variable. I played L4D in 480p. It's still the best game I played this year.
BTW, to the "I don't really mean resolution when I say HD" guys: you may not mean that, but that is what the marketing guys will pickup. Try to articulate your point better the next time. Amirite?
ksamedi said:Oh my, look at what Iwata is saying.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171782
This is great news for the series.
manueldelalas said:I'm not talking about graphics, I'm talking about gameplay.
Have you seen gameplay videos of KH DS. The thing is next to unplayable
ksamedi said:Oh my, look at what Iwata is saying.
gtj1092 said:So I take it you didn't bother to purchase any console after the Ps1 era since graphics are bad. And can people stop pretending the DQ is about innovative gameplay and that is was put on Wii and DS for any other reason besides sales
gtj1092 said:So I take it you didn't bother to purchase any console after the Ps1 era since graphics are bad. And can people stop pretending the DQ is about innovative gameplay and that is was put on Wii and DS for any other reason besides sales.
And to the bolded:lol :lol :lolI think 3 emotes is enough to convey my amusement
ksamedi said:Oh my, look at what Iwata is saying.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171782
This is great news for the series.
Man God said:Nintendo has a bad track record with advertising RPGs, hell this isn't even the first time they've tried to push DQ in North America! Though I did get a free copy of DW out of the deal...
Basically only one real success story with Tales of Symphonia.
I guess you could call Fire Emblem's passive SSBM advertising a success too. Maybe.
I'll be that person for you, Iwata!Iwata said:"With the release of Dragon Quest IX, there are two things I'd like to make reality. The first is to build a thriving Japanese game market together with Dragon Quest that rivals the West's. The second is to form a strong tag team to promote Dragon Quest overseas. At Nintendo, we were able to popularize the Brain Age series overseas, which was said to be unmarketable. I want to increase the number of people worldwide that understand the appeal of Dragon Quest, which represents all Japanese gaming culture...even if that only turns out to be a single person. I'm looking forward to working together with Mr. Horii and Square Enix."
Man God said:Nintendo has a bad track record with advertising RPGs, hell this isn't even the first time they've tried to push DQ in North America! Though I did get a free copy of DW out of the deal...
Basically only one real success story with Tales of Symphonia.
I guess you could call Fire Emblem's passive SSBM advertising a success too. Maybe.
SilverLunar said:I never heard of a RPG from Nintendo that flopped, what game are you talking about?
ksamedi said:Oh my, look at what Iwata is saying.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171782
This is great news for the series.
TunaLover said:Iwata turns NA in a second Japan, then japanese developers can benefit from aditional sales, people stop caring about FPS and pick the most quircky Wii games. All according to keikaku.
SilverLunar said:I never heard of a RPG from Nintendo that flopped, what game are you talking about?
Hcoregamer00 said:<3 Iwata
If someone can make Dragon Quest a large franchise in the West, it is Nintendo.
dead souls said:You'd think so, but all the free copies of Dragon Warrior that came with Nintendo Power subscriptions didn't exactly cause the series to explode stateside.
leroy hacker said:He's talking about Earthbound(1995) and Dragon Warrior(1989).
Edit: I forgot about Magical Starsign which is actually a relevant example. Went to bargain bins within six months I think. Though that almost certainly had more to do with the game itself than poor promotion.
Stumpokapow said:Glory of Heracles JPN
Magical Starsign JPN
Archaic Sealed Heat JPN
Card Hero JPN
sort-of Soma Bringer JPN
Baten Kaitos 2 GCN JPN
Zelda Minish Cap JPN
Napoleon JPN
Magical Starsign US
Children of Man US
Baten Kaitos 2 GCN US
FF5 GBA US
FF6 GBA US
Pokemon xD US
+ the US has not received localizations of at least 50% of all RPGs Nintendo has published on GBA and DS.
Proven said:Fixed.
SilverLunar said:I honestly never heard of half of these games. (bolded)
EarthBound is a famous one indeed, I always remembers the Mother fans and their "NINTENDO HAD SHITTY PROMOTION FOR EB THATS WHY IT FLOPPED GRRRR" qoute.
Despite being a Nintendo fan, I never owned a N64 and a GameCube(and didn't folow the news of niche titels released on them).batbeg said:Which kind of is problematic, as it speaks for Nintendo's advertising of RPGs
And you never heard of Baten Kaitos...?
WTF? The only console I've ever bought was the Wii, the day after I tried Wii Sports, but I fail to see how anything I've said has anything to do with me ignoring consoles because of graphics.gtj1092 said:So I take it you didn't bother to purchase any console after the Ps1 era since graphics are bad.
SovanJedi said:I don't think Disney have as much say in the matter as you think - why would a company who is as multiplatform-friendly as they come feel the need to have Kingdom Hearts 1 AND 2 stay exclusive to the PS2? For the Final Fantasy lineage? I don't think that sort of thing would be a factor to them.
If it goes to the Wii it'd be Square-Enix's choice, not Disney's. Likewise if it went to PS3.
A man after my own heart.Captain Smoker said:Terranigma 2
I would buy that also KH 3SomeDude said:I'd like to see them remake VII for the Wii.
The announcement of Crystal Tools being available for use on Wii actually MAKES SENSE now that they have more than one big title coming to the platform.Black-Wind said:That seems do-able.
I just remembered that S-E had made their Crystal Engine Tools (?) made to support the Wii. Still want to see what they plan to use that on.
Because it was the dominant platform in EVERY region of the world and was guaranteed sales success. Even if you were to combine PS3 and 360 sales worldwide, you'd still come up pretty short on Wii's sales numbers. Wii has the right demographics, the right sales numbers and the right level of approachable hardware (does anyone really want a KH game taking 3+ years to make like FFXIII is?!). I'd be surprised if Square Enix didn't come to the same conclusion, actually.SovanJedi said:I don't think Disney have as much say in the matter as you think - why would a company who is as multiplatform-friendly as they come feel the need to have Kingdom Hearts 1 AND 2 stay exclusive to the PS2? For the Final Fantasy lineage? I don't think that sort of thing would be a factor to them.
If it goes to the Wii it'd be Square-Enix's choice, not Disney's. Likewise if it went to PS3.
Oh, and he's comparing it to Brain Age marketing no less... anyone get the impression that Iwata sees how DQ sells to certain demographics in Japan and thinks this is a great "transition" game between casual and hardcore games for its current userbase in the west?ksamedi said:Oh my, look at what Iwata is saying.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171782
This is great news for the series.
you really think DQX will be made with crystal tools?Terrell said:The announcement of Crystal Tools being available for use on Wii actually MAKES SENSE now that they have more than one big title coming to the platform.
Case said:you really think DQX will be made with crystal tools?
alanias said:It'll either be based on that or a modified DQVIII engine. It's entirely possible that they use it though, they aren't porting the engine to Wii for nothing.
What MMO?H_Prestige said:They were apparently trying to get the new MMO on it. A modified version, of course.
Terrell said:Oh, and he's comparing it to Brain Age marketing no less... anyone get the impression that Iwata sees how DQ sells to certain demographics in Japan and thinks this is a great "transition" game between casual and hardcore games for its current userbase in the west?
alanias said:It'll either be based on that or a modified DQVIII engine. It's entirely possible that they use it though, they aren't porting the engine to Wii for nothing.
H_Prestige said:They were apparently trying to get the new MMO on it. A modified version, of course.
batbeg said:I reeeeally doubt it. Square developers are not the same studios that Enix hire.
Linkup said:Which leads me to the conclusion that Square's FFCC:Crystal Bearers will be using Crystal Tools so they can do a easy port up/down later to PS3/PSP. Why not? mainline FF has already gone multi-platform, no reason to exclude their other games especially when they actually have a budget.