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Killzone 3 Single Player Demo released on PSN (for everyone)
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H_Prestige
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Stallion Free said:
Some whiners thought KZ2 was too blurry. GG always caves in.
fuzzyreactor
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worst poster on gaf.(._.) said:
lowrider007
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wow, props to those that can play using motion controls, my brain just can't grasp it, it feels like I'm rubbing my tummy with one hand and patting my head with the other, it doesn't feel natural, I am using the DS3 though instead of a navi, don't know if that makes a big difference or not, I just keep wanting to turn the analogue stick to look.
SolidSnakex
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H_Prestige said:
I'd say that it's much more realistic to think that it was toned down because the amount of detail in the game has gone up quite a bit. You can look at the comparisons between Salamun and Blood Gracht as an example of just how much better KZ3 looks in comparison to KZ2.
The visual density has gone up, but why would that necessarilly make a reduction in motion blur necessary. Unless the imagery is too busy and the motion blur becomes distracting. I mean Crysis 2 has per object blur and it has a lot of density, granted it has colors that contrast far more in a given environment.
If people actually complained about the visual clarity of Killzone 2 it would probably have had much more to do with the palette, and QAA making a softer image to begin with than it did the motion blur itself being excessive.
The object based motion blur was amazing in Killzone 2, if it is in Killzone 3, I certainly haven't been able to see it.
alr1ghtstart said:Yeah I loved the motion blur. Just run everywhere in KZ3.
If people actually complained about the visual clarity of Killzone 2 it would probably have had much more to do with the palette, and QAA making a softer image to begin with than it did the motion blur itself being excessive.
The object based motion blur was amazing in Killzone 2, if it is in Killzone 3, I certainly haven't been able to see it.
BattleMonkey
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I like the toned down blur. It really was excessive in KZ2
BruceWayneIII
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SolidSnakex said:
Didn't they almost triple the amount of polygons?
metareferential
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Which move settings do you use guys?
I can't seem to find a correct combination; I can barely move around.xD
I can't seem to find a correct combination; I can barely move around.xD
lowrider007
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Decent motion blur is a must, the motion blur in Crysis is amazing, it really helps with giving you the illusion that the game is running at a better frame rate than it is, Crysis is a great example of that, motion blur is why 24fps movies seem to smooth to us.
BruceWayneIII
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metareferential said:
Can't remember all the specifics at the moment, but I changed things quite a bit. I know that I have reduced sensitivity to 30 and I made sure that the vertical dead zone is large, so I don't happen to look up or down by accident. But sensitivity down was THE one trick that made me continue to try and use move. After two days in bot zone, I'm not going back to DS3. This will be my preferred way of playing the game.
SolidSnakex
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BruceWayneIII said:
3x's the amount polygons and draw distance.
Castle Doctrine
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Well beat the demo on elite. Pretty easy, you can just use heavy weapons most of the time. I detached that hand cannon whatever it is and blasted helghast to kingdom come. Game looks great, jetpacks are fun, cover works good, etc etc.
metareferential
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Ok, so deadzones to 0 seems to be the thing, I'll try, thanks.
Stallion Free said:
As someone else noted, they did not drop it. I also thought it was missing, but you can still see it. It has simply become quite subtle, which I suspect was in response to the complaints many people had with the first game (making people sick or something). I think they were quite wrong, however.
If you have a freeze feature on your TV, you can catch it in action. Just initiate a melee attack and then pause the image. You can clearly see that the motion of the arm is blurred. It's simply much less so than in other first party Sony games with motion blur. Same deal with enemies, vehicles, and other effects. Motion blur is used on all of them, but it is much more subtle.
dark10x said:
Really? I seriously tried to look for it, but I couldn't see it in any shape whatsoever. Will have to do a double-take I guess, but I'm still not convinced it's in. Maybe someone that has some video capturing hardware could take screenshots during a melee animation to prove it.
Lagspike_exe
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There were direct feeds released eons ago that cleared showed off blur.
Damn, I'm impressed. After gaming on high-end PC it's hard to impress me but they did it. You got to see it to beleive it, trailers don't do justice.
Gameplay:
-it's more open this time. I got to AA guns with my jetpack from the backdoor it seems. They killed me the first time. edit: First time I used the ladder (a hard way), but the second time I jumped on pipes and then jumped over the fence above.
-it feels good.
-it feels varied and action-packed.
-I think it's a bit harder in a good way. I died three times in the demo.
-Rico isn't that much of an asshole anymore. He even saved me one time.
-Cinematics are beatiful
-Voice acting is so-so, but it works if you don't expect Saving Private Ryan. It's a brutal action blockbuster film. You just watch and relax not investing too much in the plot.
-Cutscene direction is quite good.
-sound is superb.
I liked it. Guerilla did a good work. I liked KZ2 but SP felt bland even if it had good components in place like a good AI for example. This just feels like a step above comparing to the previous entry. It's not a masterpiece but it's a damn good game. That's all.
Gameplay:
-it's more open this time. I got to AA guns with my jetpack from the backdoor it seems. They killed me the first time. edit: First time I used the ladder (a hard way), but the second time I jumped on pipes and then jumped over the fence above.
-it feels good.
-it feels varied and action-packed.
-I think it's a bit harder in a good way. I died three times in the demo.
-Rico isn't that much of an asshole anymore. He even saved me one time.
-Cinematics are beatiful
-Voice acting is so-so, but it works if you don't expect Saving Private Ryan. It's a brutal action blockbuster film. You just watch and relax not investing too much in the plot.
-Cutscene direction is quite good.
-sound is superb.
I liked it. Guerilla did a good work. I liked KZ2 but SP felt bland even if it had good components in place like a good AI for example. This just feels like a step above comparing to the previous entry. It's not a masterpiece but it's a damn good game. That's all.
Noisepurge
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Wario64 said:
Previously it required a proper address, there was some sort of check in place.
Windom Earle
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lol @ crysis 2 comparisons. From what I've seen it can't even touch KZ2.
lowrider007
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I have a dummy acc for the demo if anyone really can't be bothered to make one.
LabouredSubterfuge
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EagleEyes said:
lulz
Metalmurphy
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EagleEyes said:
Does not compute... Good IQ is exactly the lack of jaggies n shimmering.
RockmanWhore
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I really love that demo, I'm not a big fan of the new "set pieces" orientations, it's not that I don't like variety, but the core gameplay is so good. And for some reason, the move controls are different when you use the jet pack (not the same bounding box/sensibility,etc...).
Anyway, it looks gorgeous (that said, I have the feeling that the IQ has taken a hit since KZ2, I'm not sure what's changed, but it doesn't look as great, is it the lighting? the motion blur?) and the Move controls are wonderful. It's simple, I want every FPS on PS3 to implement Move controls that works as well as that. Dual stick is obsolete for me.
Anyway, it looks gorgeous (that said, I have the feeling that the IQ has taken a hit since KZ2, I'm not sure what's changed, but it doesn't look as great, is it the lighting? the motion blur?) and the Move controls are wonderful. It's simple, I want every FPS on PS3 to implement Move controls that works as well as that. Dual stick is obsolete for me.
Lord Error
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Can someone confirm/deny that the cutscene(s) in the demo are compressed video files?
KZ2 was 720p with QAA, KZ is 720p with MLAA, which should look much better/sharper. But the motion blur is apparently toned down a lot. I think they listened to complains that the game looked too blurry, so they changed both things that made it look blurry (QAA and motion blur)RockmanWhore said: