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Knack PS4 install: 37gb's!
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Fornaximus
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Grimløck;87714877 said:Wow. I'm paying about $33 for this (internet only):
Not the fastest, but I'm not capped, either.
The other option in my area is ATT which I think is marginally faster, but they impose data caps. We use hundreds of GB each month, so that's simply not feasible. We need unlimited. Or better jobs.
chickdigger802
Banned
like i said, 500gb ain't much 
that 1.8gb mario not too shabby now eh?
that 1.8gb mario not too shabby now eh?
cookie-monster
Member
no, it's really just one for each LOD. Turning it down just steps down a LOD level. It applies just as much to consoles really.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
either my calculator is broken or 37GB is not 20GB less than 40GB...
crossing my fingers that the caching theories we've been discussing are the real deal. i'd hate to be going into my PS4 every so often deleting game data for things i haven't even finished yet.
crossing my fingers that the caching theories we've been discussing are the real deal. i'd hate to be going into my PS4 every so often deleting game data for things i haven't even finished yet.
Canis lupus
Member
Welcome to the age of uncompressed audio and video. Even the Yakuza games were like 20-25GB.
TouchMyBox
Member
So I guess all of these >30 GB games means that 2 kbps 360p bink video cutscenes and shit are finally dead?
I am quite alright with this.
I am quite alright with this.
I pay $35/month for 15M. Still ok with this. As long as Day 1 Digital sticks around and it means I can start auto downloading stuff at midnight.
Also, you guys realize there is no such thing as stored uncompressed video in gaming right? As for audio, most of it is still stored compressed. At minimum lossless, otherwise high bitrate lossy.
Also, you guys realize there is no such thing as stored uncompressed video in gaming right? As for audio, most of it is still stored compressed. At minimum lossless, otherwise high bitrate lossy.
That's really nice to hear. I like that they are making the games bigger so we can get higher res textures. No downsides for me in this as long as they actually use the space to make it look and sound better. Shouldn't take too long to download anyway. As long as they have made PSN faster.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Makes SM3DW's look tiny in comparison.
How long did they speculate this game was?
How long did they speculate this game was?
Moosehole
Member
Oh! Ok that makes me feel 1,000% better. Thank you
Majmun
Member
Umm yes I am sure no one seriously thing bigger size for game is better.
KingJ2002
Member
In hindsight... back in 2005 consoles like the xbox 360 launched with 8 and 20GB hard drives. if games were to be installed directly to those launch systems... thats your entire hard drive gone in an instant.
now the xbox one and playstation 4 are coming out with 500GB drives and it wouldn't be farfetched if we saw 2-3TB hard drives in the future. Maybe even SSD or Fusion Harddrives out of the box.
and with upgradable hard drives... Space won't be an issue.
but what will be an issue is connection speeds from our providers. I see that companies did not prepare for this digital future properly and are now in a tough spot because current speeds won't cut it and anti-consumer techniques like bandwidth caps & throttling won't fly if people are streaming 1080p level content and downloading 50GB titles regularly.
I don't know what the future will hold for DD only... but the current infrastructure won't support it.
now the xbox one and playstation 4 are coming out with 500GB drives and it wouldn't be farfetched if we saw 2-3TB hard drives in the future. Maybe even SSD or Fusion Harddrives out of the box.
and with upgradable hard drives... Space won't be an issue.
but what will be an issue is connection speeds from our providers. I see that companies did not prepare for this digital future properly and are now in a tough spot because current speeds won't cut it and anti-consumer techniques like bandwidth caps & throttling won't fly if people are streaming 1080p level content and downloading 50GB titles regularly.
I don't know what the future will hold for DD only... but the current infrastructure won't support it.
I shouldn't have a problem with this digital future:
Should be 100Mbps, but my browser sputters when going faster than that. I pay around 100 including TV with two decoders, landline and two cellphone lines.
A ping of 0ms goes against the laws of physics, Your Honor!
Should be 100Mbps, but my browser sputters when going faster than that. I pay around 100 including TV with two decoders, landline and two cellphone lines.
Grimløck;87714877 said:Wow. I'm paying about $33 for this (internet only):
Not the fastest, but I'm not capped, either.
A ping of 0ms goes against the laws of physics, Your Honor!
22x better.
WHOAguitarninja
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High res textures = big file sizes. If you want highly detailed textures, you need big file sizes. If you want to have minimal loading, you need to load from the hard drive.
This is an unavoidable fact. Not liking it doesn't change that.
This is an unavoidable fact. Not liking it doesn't change that.
Backfoggen
Banned
I wonder how many discs CoD:Ghosts is on current-gen. Did they compress and cut that stuff down to one?
Sum-Mischief
Member
Its coming ... I can wait ... Sort of .
Marty Chinn
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Ya, but even the initial download before you can play is pretty sizable. Killzone is over 7GB before you can play. For many, that is a minimum of one hour to download and as high as 7 hours to download before you can start still. An hour alone is annoying.
Not one single game ships with uncompressed video. Not one single PS4 or Xbox One game will ever ship with uncompressed video.
As far as audio, they better be compressing audio if they aren't. There's very little reason to ship with uncompressed audio.
Mutanthands
Member
People are going to freak out when something like Final Fantasy XV ships on three blu rays. Shit is gonna be bananas.
Sorry guys for the screw up in the OP. But doesn't it make it worse? I don't see how Killzone is just a little more than 2GBs more than this game? It has a bigger campaign and the graphics are MUCH better.
And can you link me to the source of the day one patch for killzone taking 7.5GB's space? So updates now take as much space as a psplus game this generation? LOL. I wonder how much space each DLC will take up?
This COULD be a problem if download speeds from Sony servers remain on the same abysmal level. ND games were an exception, not a rule.
andromeduck
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haha when that happens I'll just plop a >2TB disk in and all will be fine again
Family Fry
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Didn't cerny say there was almost a feature films worth of cutscenes for knack?
Between 60-120mins of 1080p cutscenes possibly.
Edit- found the quote from psn blog.
Between 60-120mins of 1080p cutscenes possibly.
Edit- found the quote from psn blog.
Tidux
Member
Essentially the PS4 allocates a portion of the hard drive to cache game data for the game you are currently playing. It uses this data like it would any other install (permanent of not).
The difference is, once you are done with the game or want to play a different game, this data is flushed and the same partition on the hard drive is used for the data cache of the next game. Thus negating the need to do a 40-50Gb permanent install for each game.
first time you start killzone SF as an example, it will take a minute.
a small portion of the installation is permanent and will remain until you delete it
Majmun
Member
Beyond Two Souls is 25GB, and the PS3 God of War games are also around ~40GB
According to this twitter page:
https://twitter.com/JoshLMusic/status/394220033582174208/photo/1
At least it's 20 ish gb's less than Shadowfall...I guess.
And we should find out AC4's install size with reviews hitting tomorrow right?
Anyone consider all these launch games are so massive because they contain system updates on them?
Saint of Killers
Member
Oh ho!
Grimløck;87714877 said:Wow. I'm paying about $33 for this (internet only):
Not the fastest, but I'm not capped, either.
I have 50/25 Fios yet every PSN download goes at the speed of about 1MB/second for me (on wireless). Do you get anywhere near these speeds when downloading from PSN?
SkylineRKR
Member
My PSN is capped at about 20mbit. But I'm on wifi. Still, with Plus being pretty much essential now I expect more d/l speed from Sony.
I get this for about 30 euros a month. But I don't like 40gb downloads, I keep doing what I do now... only buy indies and arcade games as a download.
I get this for about 30 euros a month. But I don't like 40gb downloads, I keep doing what I do now... only buy indies and arcade games as a download.
The update is 300mb
Moosehole
Member
That is definitely better for saving HDD space, but what effect will this have on the bluray drive over time? Something to be concerned about?
PS3 wireless is pretty crap though, could have something to do with it.
nhlducks35
Member
I get the exact same problem (Verizon FiOS 50/25 here as well). It's funny, because the computer right next to my PS3 gets like 5 MB/s when downloading from Steam on wifi.
Robot Pants
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