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Koji Igarashi Kickstarts Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (2.5D, backdash, 2018)
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DragonKnight
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No argument there from me.
Finale Fireworker
Member
It does? I never heard that. I played the PSN version and didn't notice anything.
manipulate
Member
Sotn psn plays great on Vita/psp
This is a real false equivalence though. Kickstarter backers are not the same as sales. There are tons of people (myself included) who aren't going to back it on kickstarter but will buy it on launch. On top of that, there is the HUGE portion of people who just don't know about, or don't pay attention to Kickstarter.
For example: Divinity Original Sin had 19.5k backers on kickstarter. The final game has ~820k owners. I'd say this style of game is certainly less niche than hardcore PC-centric turn based strategy RPGs are.
Sword Familiar
178% of NeoGAF posters don't understand statistics
theSlacker
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Should have expected the thread to jump a bunch of pages when it closed. Didn't expect 20 pages since last time I read it.
It's the PS1 classics version. Every single classics game has terrible latency on the PS3.
Can't watch the video for now. Is that a sequel to 3D Dot Game Heroes?
Sword Familiar
178% of NeoGAF posters don't understand statistics
No. It's a Roguelike indie game about a game developer who's making an RPG. You control the player in the game, but the game isn't finished and has bugs and stuff. Looks so-so.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Aha. I play on Vita, because I am one of God's chosen people, and do not have this problem.
Unless you're in Europe, where we've been stuck with the slow PAL version until they released Dracula X Chronicles.
StarCreator
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I would argue for the Dracula X Chronicles version being the best experience, personally.
ORE NO FAMILIAR DA!!!!!
So much JoJo love.
Remembrance
Member
I'm playing that one right now. Funding this finally pushed me to get around to playing my Metroidvania backlog - and, among them, my first proper Igavania ever.
I realize now that I've actually been missing out on what Igavania is about - everything else I have is clearly more Metroid than Castlevania. Time to fix that.
it wasn't that iga's games SOLD less, it's that retail prices for games went down every year, so his games sold roughly the same, but they made less money back due to games going down to like $30 by the time OoE came out.
StarCreator
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You should still be able to put money toward any non-limited tier via PayPal.
ShogunDarius
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you can still paypal
Unknown Soldier
Member
The Mythical Man-Month suggests that throwing more people at it won't solve the issue of feature creep that easily.
Yeah.
They did a pretty good job of making sure that the stretch goals are things that can be developed more or less independently of the main team once the assets are available to work with. The increased scope of the game shouldn't delay it too badly.
Red Arremer
Member
Agreed.
Once you have created the base assets and mechanics, it won't be difficult to make, say, a random generator that spits out a procedurally generated dungeon.
Unlike Yacht Club, who basically have to completely redesign the levels to fit their new characters' mechanics.
Has there been any word when we'll be able to upgrade our pledges? Will it just be something we'll be able to do once surveys are sent out?
Apologies if this has been answered before; been a busy week so I wasn't able to keep track of the campaign in its final hours nor the aftermath.
Apologies if this has been answered before; been a busy week so I wasn't able to keep track of the campaign in its final hours nor the aftermath.
drotahorror
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I wonder if a bigger publisher will see how much they've made via kickstarter and give them even more backing?
NipplesAndToes23
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I'm curious on a business point of view how these people are able to give out the backer rewards like digital and physical copies of the game, art books and stuff when I've heard from a couple of people on here who are in the industry say that even with funding money the game could still cost more to make.
Mythical Man-Month isn't against adding people at the start of a project on different features, though.
Sure, complexity is up, but it's not as bad as adding people late.
drotahorror
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That's kind of why I'm wondering if some other big publisher might swoop them up and give them more funding. We NEED a 50 million dollar Igavania.
They have publisher funding, and they were very upfront about it. It's even in the pitch video.
Add this to the fact Deep Silver trademarked Bloodstained, and it's kind of funny to even say something like that. That Kickstarter was explicitely for the purpose of getting a publisher to come in and fund it, then everyone matched the publisher's funding anyway.
So this looks to be getting 10 million minimum unless Deep Silver decides to cheap out, and even then I can see that being more "oh, we'll use 5 million to market it then."
HadesGigas
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Fangamer know what it costs to make and ship stuff, and are the ones Iga hired to handle that stuff for the kickstarter.
It is definitely a trap kickstarters can fall into where they under-estimate the real cost of creating/storing/shipping physical rewards, but thats very unlikely to be the case here.
Holy Order Sol
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IGA is on right now: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/kinda-funny-stage-day-2/
Stone Ocean
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I just hope the transformations make sense instead of being like "here Soma, you can now turn into a giant half naked woman with 4 arms, enjoy the new fetish"
Felt like playing some Metroidvania. For some reason, I've never played Harmony of Dissonance, but fortunately I was able to find a cheap copy. Man, I seriously missed this kind of game. It's great. Not as good as SotN, AoS/DoS or OoE, but still quite enjoyable. The music sucks, though.
Can't wait for Bloodstained.
Can't wait for Bloodstained.
I replayed AoS recently and was mortified they translated that as Curly.
I feel it's weak and the worst game in the series of it's type. It's not a bad game though, it's just kind of outclassed by a lot of the others.
I actually liked the dual castle. It was a strange, tedious game to get around in. I recall reading that they sacrificed sound quality to enhance graphics, and the game is super neon bright in response to Circle of the Moon, which was was damn near unplayable on the original GBA hardware due to darkness. It helped when we had crappy, dull screens, but now the game is bright and almost garish.
Basically: Skill system was good, same as Lament of Innocence where you combine the books with subweapons. Jumping was too floaty though, and as good as every other character in the game looked, Juste himself is some super awful bad looking main character animation wise, and boring otherwise. The game itself would be so much better if I didn't have to look at the terribly animated thing for my entire play time.
Also, it's super easy and you should unlock hard and never look back.
Maxim and his triple jump was pretty dope too.
Also, I wish it had more than whips. I know Juste is the unpopular outcast Belmont that no one remembers or likes, and he can't use anything but a whip. whips are awesome, but so are options!
Alex_Mexico
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Too early to ask for a trailer, a demo and a release date?
Crap, this next two years will be excruciating...
Crap, this next two years will be excruciating...
You just got to do your best to forget about the game, that's what I had to do for Pillars of Eternity.
Alex_Mexico
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I thought I'd have Heart Forth Alicia and Timespinners to tide me over (two Metroidvanias I Kickstarted a year ago and look delightful) but they just got delayed until 2016 so I'm a bit sad here
I doubt they'll send out surveys until they are much closer to shipping the game.