Spring-Loaded
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People will say you're pathetic for you actively trying to be pathetic
Deal with it.
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Leave me alone -- Forced multiplayer elements in typical single player scenarios
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People will say you're pathetic for you actively trying to be pathetic
Deal with it.
Derpcrawler
Member
I lag invaders because I don't want to deal with PvP heroes using cookie cutter dagger builds while lagging at 500ms+ resulting in backstabs from the front. Since there is no option to disable PvP, I just lag them until they D/C or die.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
The only tears in this thread are coming from the guy so afraid of pvp he's using a lag switch.
Veritigo_X
Member
Stay hollow. No invasions while hollow. If you want to summon people you'll be 2v1 or 3v1. Invaders aren't a problem at that point.
Cookie cutter builds are the best to face because you know what to expect.
John Kowalski
Banned
yeah i know, i read your posts
motorised mallard
Member
Then play offline, oh wait, you don't get the benefits of online if you do that.
Like it should be.
Derpcrawler
Member
Mate, I don't need cookie cutter dagger build to wreck scrubz, but it's not fun to play counter build all the time just to prove that. I would rather just DC them or lag them out and continue my jolly co-op adventures. Rise in salt levels of those PvP tryhards is just icing on the cake.
lol, you're right. The thread so quickly veered into a Dark Souls debate that I lost track of the OPs point. See? I can respond like an adult and admit I made a mistake without resorting to telling people to "Get the fuck out" (nice ninja edit btw).
My point still stands though, you clearly enjoy the games but dislike the PvP (which is only forced in online mode). That's OK, but you're being extremely stubborn by saying 'I want to play by my rules, and fuck anybody that tries to spoil that for me' even though many are playing the game as it was designed.
SeventhSon
Member
u gonna git lagswitch'd
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
BouncyFrag
Member
I remember getting lagstabbed in the forest.
Reallink
Member
I love this. As hacked to shit as online PS360 and PC games are, I bet most invaders are impossibly specced/equipped in the first place. Do you lose any progress (souls, location) when those jackasses come in one shotting folks? I don't agree with forcing PVP on players in general, so as far as I'm concerned, fuck From for being so stubborn about it and kudos to you for finding a way to stick it right back to them.
I've been able to go deep into the level while dealing with brutal lag. I have creative ways and tactics to show up out of nowhere with a PvPvE ambush.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Right, you playing co-op, 2v1 or 3v1 and you still cannot beat one guy?
No wonder you need a lag switch.
Derpcrawler
Member
Feed me your delicious souls. Point is, PvP is clearly forced onto players in Souls games. No proper matchmaking based on gear levels and latency is just topping on the shit cake. I rest my case. And yes, DS2 is prime example pf forced PvP, so it's only logical it would overtake this thread.
motorised mallard
Member
"If you can't beat them, join them."
Oh you lagswitch in Dark Souls 2? Well I'm good then, I don't play it. I also don't agree with From allowing Hollow invasions in Dark Souls 2, it completely goes against the risk/reward of Hollow and Human. Co-op trivializes the game for the most part, so being Human and risking invasion is a balance to that.
Soul Memory is garbage too, in Demon's and Dark Souls 1, chances are your Invader is a much lower level than you.
I'm a primarily single player gamer. The Souls series (at least Demon's and Dark Souls 1), are, in my opinion, primarily single player games, with some multi-player components added to the mix. I want the option to opt out of the PVP and play with my friends.
I've dueled people in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, and I've won many of those duels, but I wasn't having fun, nor did I derive satisfaction from killing them. After a 12 hour day at work, I kind of just want to sit down on the couch in front of the big screen, and get lost in the world From Software has created. I don't want to fight with other players. And I hate that I have to disable all internet connectivity (I enjoy the bloodstains on the floor, and the hints for the online connectivity part).
Don't shit on other people because they want to play the game alone. Just like I won't shit on people for wanting to play with other people and invade their games. I've never been a fan of PVP. I love co-op, however. I'm not a competitive person truth told. I really enjoy playing with people. Resistance 2 co-op was some of the most fun I've had in gaming. With that said, I have enjoyed PVP in games like Halo and Warhawk, but I was actively choosing to participate in those PVP matches, not having it randomly thrust upon me when I wasn't expecting it. That's just not fun for me.
I think it's fair if someone wants to play alone. I think it's fair if someone wants to PVP. I just think From Software should allow more customizable options for players. It's not my fault if someone gets pleasure from invading a complete strangers game and killing them. There should be a way for them to play with like minded people. Ditto for the co-op/solo players.
I love the Demon's and Dark Souls, and my Bloodborne CE is already pre-ordered, but I'm not going to feel bad for not wanting to deal with players that are obsessed with "pwning noobs" online.
I've dueled people in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, and I've won many of those duels, but I wasn't having fun, nor did I derive satisfaction from killing them. After a 12 hour day at work, I kind of just want to sit down on the couch in front of the big screen, and get lost in the world From Software has created. I don't want to fight with other players. And I hate that I have to disable all internet connectivity (I enjoy the bloodstains on the floor, and the hints for the online connectivity part).
Don't shit on other people because they want to play the game alone. Just like I won't shit on people for wanting to play with other people and invade their games. I've never been a fan of PVP. I love co-op, however. I'm not a competitive person truth told. I really enjoy playing with people. Resistance 2 co-op was some of the most fun I've had in gaming. With that said, I have enjoyed PVP in games like Halo and Warhawk, but I was actively choosing to participate in those PVP matches, not having it randomly thrust upon me when I wasn't expecting it. That's just not fun for me.
I think it's fair if someone wants to play alone. I think it's fair if someone wants to PVP. I just think From Software should allow more customizable options for players. It's not my fault if someone gets pleasure from invading a complete strangers game and killing them. There should be a way for them to play with like minded people. Ditto for the co-op/solo players.
I love the Demon's and Dark Souls, and my Bloodborne CE is already pre-ordered, but I'm not going to feel bad for not wanting to deal with players that are obsessed with "pwning noobs" online.
TheTurboFD
Member
You don't need any build because you're obviously not good enough to even attempt to PVP. The fact that you even try to justify cheating just proves how idiotic you are.
Good on him for learning to cheat, to teach those no-good cheaters a lesson. Nevermind all of the non-cheaters who happen get in the way, they should just learn to cheat too.
This thread exploded over his post, so its the other way around.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I think some people are just not cut out for things to be that involved. You don't want to always meet the teen or young person whose going to make you his or her after school special rampage combo video game session.
When you get older you start to see more trends with it. I guess it's fine when you want it to happen. In OP's case I get it, got it, got over it, moved on, and now I'm looking to make things better for myself.
I think the metagame should be thought of before they just start adding in MP. You can play MP and be completely useless at it. There's no fun in it anymore. Do you think I care about MLG CoD or anything else? Nope. It just happens for some people and for others no one cares.
It's there for fun, just don't go over board with it, and think it defines gaming. It can be one of the best and one of the worst experiences with a controller anymore. I have no respect for MP, but I don't necessarily think it should go away either.
Who really wants to meet up anymore? People who have friends that play games. If you play enough of the SP, you probably don't care about MP. It goes either way.
When I saw this naked guy come into my game in Souls 2 I thought to myself, "young guy, probably plays A LOT".
OP, " screw the PVP players, seriously!"
When you get older you start to see more trends with it. I guess it's fine when you want it to happen. In OP's case I get it, got it, got over it, moved on, and now I'm looking to make things better for myself.
I think the metagame should be thought of before they just start adding in MP. You can play MP and be completely useless at it. There's no fun in it anymore. Do you think I care about MLG CoD or anything else? Nope. It just happens for some people and for others no one cares.
It's there for fun, just don't go over board with it, and think it defines gaming. It can be one of the best and one of the worst experiences with a controller anymore. I have no respect for MP, but I don't necessarily think it should go away either.
Who really wants to meet up anymore? People who have friends that play games. If you play enough of the SP, you probably don't care about MP. It goes either way.
When I saw this naked guy come into my game in Souls 2 I thought to myself, "young guy, probably plays A LOT".
OP, " screw the PVP players, seriously!"
mgs2master2
Banned
Jeez, souls gaf is in full effect here.
Reallink
Member
That's on From, not him. They should implement and regularly update measures to combat and ban people taking hacked characters online. I don't fault him at all for taking a scorched earth approach to combating them.
Majority of Souls invaders aren't cheaters, I can't speak for Dark Souls 2, but usually, the Hosts that the Invader invades is far more likely to be the one cheating. And when there were easily available save edits that people could plop on to a USB, a ton of new players would literally start their first playthrough with a modded character.
Don't understand character leveling and min/max, defenses, game mechanics, the netcode, etc. Get killed, cry foul and cheat your character or engineer a way to lag invaders out the game. It's full on butthurt, to the highest degree.
motorised mallard
Member
This is bullshit, sorry.
There is a offline option and if that doesn't sound good then let me quote something. - edit - I agree that the choice of allowing hollows to be invaded is stupid, it doesn't excuse anything though.
Focus on the bolded.
I agree that From should be better about banning people who cheat. Though if they were better about it, Derpcrawler would be banned as well.
Veritigo_X
Member
Eh, hacked characters suck but I've accepted them. They aren't very common for one and they usually aren't very good players besides their stats so they're fun to mess with and annoy. I often kill hackers by kicking them off ledges, especially in the forest.
This is similar to my experience with most hackers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNfpZ1yr94k
This video has a red invader facing a hacker, but the situation can easily have been switched.
Soodanim
Gold Member
Jesus fuck, GAF. So much unnecessary hate for lagswitchguy. Stop acting like he's single handedly ruined gaming. Part of the game or not, invasion of someone's game is dick mode. Some people just want to co-op in peace. Offline is not the same, and so it's not a completely valid alternative.
Are the mods that allow you to co-op with friends also ruining the spirit of the game as much as lag-switching dickwraiths?
Are the mods that allow you to co-op with friends also ruining the spirit of the game as much as lag-switching dickwraiths?
Circle Jerk
Member
Souls gaf hitting Nintendo gaf levels of salt when someone insults their game. 5 pages of bullshit over a dumb post ruining an interesting topic.
On topic: I really disliked the forced multiplayer aspects of watch dogs. You can go offline, but you're missing out on upgrades, and like a third of the game. But the actual invading is kinda terrible, tracking people down isn't fun, and it just felt like a drag on the game. Way too much work went into that rather than the rest of the game.
On topic: I really disliked the forced multiplayer aspects of watch dogs. You can go offline, but you're missing out on upgrades, and like a third of the game. But the actual invading is kinda terrible, tracking people down isn't fun, and it just felt like a drag on the game. Way too much work went into that rather than the rest of the game.
TheTurboFD
Member
Then don't buy a game that centers around it.... simple as that.
MMaRsu
Banned
Wow, what a scumbag you are.
Derpcrawler
Member
As I said, I 100% both games on 360 and PC. I had to resort to offline play on 360, since my friends played on PS3, and I played with PvP on when there was VAC on Steam, after they disabled VAC, amount of cheaters went through the roof, on top of people who have bad connection and rubber band all over the screen, as well as people using end game gear on twinks. I am asking again, why am I not getting invaded on my Soul Level 501 character at all, while getting invaded all the time on my low level characters by people using same dagger builds? Why should I resort to playing boring counter build in order to not feel bad? And after you keep dying and loosing humanity to OP builds, you will feel bad. Especially as fresh character with low supply of HumEff.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Yeah, let's just condone multiplayer cheating.
I'm surprised people care this much about a dude cheating to avoid invasions. I love a challenge so getting invaded is fun for me. If somebody doesn't want to participate in that then I don't see how lag switching them is much different than bailing off a ledge. Not a big deal imo.
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OT, I do think that it's cool when multiplayer is weaved into single player, but there should be some customization to it or at least some fore warning.
Some people just want to have a good time with their friends on a jolly adventure. Nothing wrong with that as there's more to Dark Souls than just its difficulty. There's its combat mechanics, enemy design, levels, aesthetic and a multitude of other things that make it what it is.
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OT, I do think that it's cool when multiplayer is weaved into single player, but there should be some customization to it or at least some fore warning.
Veritigo_X
Member
Edit: Joke went over my head.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I'd hate to have to connect to a server before starting a game. Kojima wouldn't do that if this is his last MGS. At least we hope he wouldn't. If anything it should be for the cloud or DLC. That's okay. I don't necessarily want to see anyone in Mother Base. That would be a nightmare
Derpcrawler
Member
Last I checked game centers around immersive role play world. Not fending off people named "Xxx420BlazeItXxx" playing same old spec with gear that wasn't designed being used at his/her zone and soul level.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
You won't be able to solo Warframe for too long.
But space ninjas
It's not about being offended because someone offended 'their game'. He got called out for admitting to cheating, then defended his position to the hilt in a massively dickish manner.
TheTurboFD
Member
Lol with all the emphasis on white stones, red stones, and covenants you don't think it was more CO-OP/PVP focus? Hell they even have invaders offline.