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Mad Max: Fury Road Comic Con Trailer

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Going to be magical.
 
Please, stop repeating the same lie pushed by the studios.

PG-13 is the scourge of modern action films. That looked stunning, but Max needs an unapologetically grotesque universe.

So you can't do great action sequences with a gritty atmosphere in a PG-13 movie? Maybe it won't have the sickening amount of gore that you're looking for but that's never really made anything "better" to me.
 
Aside from the first Mad Max, is there anything in Road Warrior or Beyond Thunderdome that couldn't be done in a modern PG-13 film?

Fingers getting cut, people getting crushed by cars, the works. Not a lot of profanity nor pools of blood, but it's a very brutal universe. Most of the deaths would have to be left implied or just not shown in the same manner. Judge yourself.

FWIW, I always felt that Thunderdome was the least violent of the three (and also the least accomplished).

So you can't do great action sequences with a gritty atmosphere in a PG-13 movie? Maybe it won't have the sickening amount of gore that you're looking for but that's never really made anything "better" to me.
I'm not looking for sickening amounts of gore. Mad Max never had much of it, not even the first part. But it's gruesome as hell and pulls no punches. This is not a slight, but go ahead and name any great PG-13 action film after the rating was turned into what it is (because 80's and early 90's PG-13 films were basically soft R).
 
Yeah this... this looks good.
Charlize Theron looks fucking kickass, too, wow.

EDIT: Oh it's PG-13? That's lame, but at least we can hope for an UNRATED bluray.
 
Indeed. It's been put on the back burner to coincide with the release of this movie, so they better have made good use of the extra time.

Really hoping Avalanche comes out to show more at Gamescom now that the trailer for the film is out.
 
So you can't do great action sequences with a gritty atmosphere in a PG-13 movie? Maybe it won't have the sickening amount of gore that you're looking for but that's never really made anything "better" to me.

Exactly

Mission Impossible 2's finale is one of the best, practically shot action set pieces in the early 2000s and its all done under a PG-13 banner. Say what you will about the film, but its still some of John Woo's best American action work
 
Exactly

Mission Impossible 2's finale is one of the best, practically shot action set pieces in the early 2000s and its all done under a PG-13 banner. Say what you will about the film, but its still some of John Woo's best American action work

You are not comparing universes as glaringly disparate as MI and MM's, are you?

One is a franchise in our current timeline. The other takes place in a future where people eat people and roving gangs of partly naked muderapists do their thing, more often than not with sharp and blunt objects.

You're not worried by the PG13 thing? Maybe it's not a big deal, since they seem to get away with a lot of violence, still.

My concern with PG-13 violence is that it feels incredibly hollow and even hypocritical, as it's carefully designed to prevent any form of impact. It's more or less "bang, you are dead" instead of "holy living fuck, that dude got ran over by a road train/got his ribcage crushed in". It achieves exactly what it aims to prevent: the banalization of violence.
 
You are not comparing universes as glaringly disparate as MI and MM's, are you?

One is a franchise in our current timeline. The other takes place in a future where people eat people and roving gangs of partly naked muderapists do their thing.

lol no

Just saying, you can have your visceral, exciting action without the need for body parts being blown apart.
I guess a better recent example would be The Winter Soldier :)
 
lol no

Just saying, you can have your visceral, exciting action without the need for body parts being blown apart.
I guess a better recent example would be The Winter Soldier :)

The point still stands. The Winter Soldier is a fine super hero movie, but it doesn't need to portray the same level of brutality as Mad Max.

The thing about Mad Max is that everything feels so fucked up that it makes your stomach churn even if most of the time the violence is still relatively gore-less. It's something that makes Mad Max unique: it's insanely violent without showing way too much. Yet it's still heaps and bounds ahead of PG-13.

Just go watch any of the original films. Beyond Thunderdome, which as far as I'm concerned is the tamest one, got a PG-13, but that was a 1985 PG-13, when that rating was brand new and still brutal as hell. These days it would require some massive editing before release.
 
The point still stands. The Winter Soldier is a fine super hero movie, but it doesn't need to portray the same level of brutality as Mad Max.

The thing about Mad Max is that everything feels so fucked up that it makes your stomach churn even if most of the time the violence is still relatively gore-less. It's something that makes Mad Max unique: it's insanely violent without showing way too much. Yet it's still heaps and bounds ahead of PG-13.

Just go watch any of the original films. Beyond Thunderdome got a PG-13, but that was a 1985 PG-13, when that rating was still brutal as hell.

True

Will be interesting trying to pull off that kind of tone with the rating
 
My concern with PG-13 violence is that it feels incredibly hollow and even hypocritical, as it's carefully designed to prevent any form of impact. It's more or less "bang, you are dead" instead of "holy living fuck, that dude got ran over by a road train/got his ribcage crushed in". It achieves exactly what it aims to prevent: the banalization of violence.

I'm just worried it will remove that extra punch from a movie that, from the trailer, looks insane.

Again, i hope we get a Unrated dvd, but i doubt we'll get a 180° in style with home release.
 
Aside from the first Mad Max, is there anything in Road Warrior or Beyond Thunderdome that couldn't be done in a modern PG-13 film?

Thunderdome already is PG-13 and it's pretty damn watered down compared to RW/MM2.

Though the only thing truly R in MM2 are the rape scenes and a partially obscured head explosion. Other than that MM2 has a fiercely unapologetic and serious tone which I really hope Fury Road can nail.

Rating aside, trailer looked pretty neat even though Max himself didn't do much of anything in it. Also damn, the interceptor doesn't even make it through said trailer =P
 
I'm not looking for sickening amounts of gore. Mad Max never had much of it, not even the first part. But it's gruesome as hell and pulls no punches. This is not a slight, but go ahead and name any great PG-13 action film after the rating was turned into what it is (because 80's and early 90's PG-13 films were basically soft R).

I can't think of any straight up, but then again I've not seen many good action movies in like, the last 20 years or so. Live Free or Die Hard 4.0 could be brought up, but that was a disaster from day one considering Tom Rothman and the studio in general. Then the last Die Hard came out, was rated R, but nothing about it felt like a rated R movie. I think it had some fucks in it, but in terms of violence there wasn't anything particularly stand-out.

All I'm saying is that ratings are relative. I think you can make a gritty PG-13 movie but I also think you can make a not so gritty R movie. To me it's just in the execution more than what's in the script even. The script can be full of "rated R things" but then the process behind the curtain could change it into something else whether through editing or studio exec middling or what have you. There was an R cut of Die Hard 4 with more language and violence but it didn't really have much of an impact on the movie nor did it make that much difference.

So who knows. I think this movie can still be gritty enough with its atmosphere, and you can still be really violent without necessarily shoving it into the camera lens. I think I'm actually a bigger fan of "mental" violence, in that I react with more cringe when something horrible happens to someone but it's not necessarily graphic or even really shown; the thought of something bad can be even worse than just seeing it.
 
Really hoping Avalanche comes out to show more at Gamescom now that the trailer for the film is out.

Hopefully. My manager went to E3 last year and saw a demonstration of it, but wasn't too impressed with it. The game is essentially like Red Faction Guerrilla, expect with a deeper car combat system. Hopefully they really spruced it up and made it more fun to play.

I thought the game had little if nothing to do with the film universe, besides the main character. Doesn't it take place in the US?

It is still a stand-alone game, but they tweaked things a bit. For instance, Max's voice was American, but they changed it to Australian after hearing complaints.
 
I thought the game had little if nothing to do with the film universe, besides the main character. Doesn't it take place in the US?

Nah. I'm not sure why Avalanche said that but the game is in a sense an extension of FURY ROAD, mainly the world and people who inhabit it. There are for example locations mentioned and hinted at in the movie but you'll able to go to them in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHU6K47qgc8

im pretty sure this guy is still alive and could probably use the payday

please put him in

Well, they have a monument for the character in the game. There are quite a few actors from the old trilogy who are in Fury Road. ;)
 
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