Imperfected
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Maybe they'll make a Legion of Doom.
Tibalt, Ob Nixilas, Tezzeret, Garruk, and... Bizarro Gideon?
Tibalt, Ob Nixilas, Tezzeret, Garruk, and... Bizarro Gideon?
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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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sorin is about the same age and he has been taking l's his entire life
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Is it insane to cut wheel of fortune? On the one side it discards which this deck wants but on the other it's a draw seven for opponents which this deck doesn't want at all.
Alright 1 more cut for Tibalt
Alright 1 more cut for Tibalt
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's really not. People are greedy, unless you're in a discard theme you're giving opponents between +1 and +3 cards at best. It's pretty broken in proper builds too.
So now that we have the full spoiler, how good of a limited format do you think it is?
I am thinking of waiting to get into standard for this one and just draft it a lot. It'll give me the opportunity and will have the spare funds to finish my modern deck.
Also, what are the most modern viable cards so far?
I am thinking of waiting to get into standard for this one and just draft it a lot. It'll give me the opportunity and will have the spare funds to finish my modern deck.
Also, what are the most modern viable cards so far?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Memory Jar is literally the only good one among those. Wheel of Fortune is also amazing in eggs builds, it's amazing in Yidris,... Rule of thumb imo is, if you wanna do something unfair and are in red Wheel of Fortune is great.
Also some of us choose to play Boros against our better judgement.
Anyways Tibalt had to go. I put in some more tutors and he really does not work very well with what the deck does.
I like this interaction or better said lack of infraction.
This card is kinda neat, not sure if I should play it over Sword of Fire and Ice
Rules question about Tainted Pact: If you hit two cards of the same name, do all the cards stay exiled, or do you then have a final chance to pick one to put to your hand? It looks like each time you exile a card you are taking a chance that you may not get anything.
Does that question make sense?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yeah if you hit duplicates you're sol. It works in highlander either if you're only running a single basic land of each or vary between regular and snow.
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Transhuman
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If you hit doubles you get nothing. I run this in my Sliver deck that only runs one of each basic. It's bad outside of decks built to accommodate it.
TheBlackMarvel
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At the last moment Sorin will kill Tibalt and take his place.
Thanks, thats what I thought!
Sorin doesn't have the chain veil. Liliana took a huge L in killing her brother.
TheBlackMarvel
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Also, isn't Sorin more powerful than Liliana even with the chain veil? She's shit scared of him regardless.
EDIT: Sorin is much, much older than Liliana.
What is your wincon meant to be in this deck?
Ramp seems a bit low, I am assuming you're running cabal coffers and urborg, but crypt ghast and the like should be in there.
Sadistic hypnotist and bitterblossom are good in conjunction with one another.
What about deathcloud? If you want a pox deck death cloud is nearly as good and able to be fine tuned a bit more.
I have a Nath discard (stax) for edh so there are some similarities, that's why I am curious.
Edit: I think bolt is a bit too weak here too, maybe dismember for creature removal is a bit better of a choice.
Did this, tried to log in.... "Your Account is no longer active. Please make a new account"
I swear this isn't worth the trouble....
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Damage from discard or being hellbent or both accumulating and hits from Neheb. The idea is for everyone to live off the top of their decks including myself.
Neheb hits for 4 once you're at 1 or less cards in hand.
Cabal Coffers Urborg are in but I'm considering cutting Coffers as it's not a mana producing land unless there's Urborg in play and I'm already on a low land count as is.
There's not a single card in the deck costing more than 4 and I expect to have everyone low on cards in hand quickly including myself. Hopwfully meaning I won't need all that much ramp.
Cabal Coffers only has a slot right now because it would allow me to cast Neheb almost indefinitely.
I should probably play deathcloud.
I think then that you want to be getting out ahead of everyone else then, which means that you should have MORE ramp compared to less.
Break through the line only works before you are hell bent also, which isn't bad, but adding another means of unblockability seems more reasonable. Overall though looks fun to play.
Aggro is so hard in edh, if you're hellbent especially because a wipe means you're done. Maybe add in a bit more card draw, and something like whip to pay to draw a bit more. Also necropotence is too god not to include.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I am running most of the fast mana I have access and I don't have a mox diamond yet. I don't like mana vault in decks that don't really play many high cost spells and chrome mox, lotus petal and simian spirit guide are probably a bad idea in a deck where I make myself discard cards.
I took out break through the line because it both stops working and is mana intensive. I have filth and whispersilk cloak to get Neheb through as well.
I don't think it's aggro and Negri works against this decks plan and would require me to run way more lifegain.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Message the guy on the beta forum and he'll fix it if it's fixable.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Also, nobody has any clue why Shadow of the Grave's release notes say it works with uncast Madness cards when it straight up does not work that way under the rules.
Yeah I get your points. I didn't mean Aggro specifically but just that if your primary wincon is beat down then it makes it hard if you're hellbent. That is why I was suggesting fast mana, you can cast it for zero or 1 and it sticks around.
I get the concern about life loss with necro, but it is a good way to break parity with your general. If everyone else is hellbent and you're drawing up to 7 a turn you're going to be able to me much more proactive than your opponents.
The only spell that's ever had an activated ability as part of the spell itself (as opposed to an alternate cost/thing you can do with it like Cycling, Flashback, etc.) is Lightning Storm:
One of my most memorable moments at a GP recently was playing against an Ad Nauseam player that cast Lightning Storm, didn't discard lands, then passed priority. I just sat there for a few seconds waiting for him to realize what he did and finally asked, just to confirm, "You didn't discard any lands?" Guy immediately scooped.
We know that they had a tussle when Liliana first got to innistrad but we don't know how powerful the chain veil is.
"God's Beard!"
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I mean, having sideboard cards for bogles is one thing, but this dude played Blood Moon, Blessed Alliance, Nahiri, Anger of the Gods and Chalice for 1 against me lol
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Heh currently experimenting with this as my 4c tower sideboard in the beta
Going full tempo. Played against a UW control deck and I can't fathom why anyone would want a return of that kinda deck. My opponent played Kefnet and never attacked or blocked with it in 15+ turns.
Going full tempo. Played against a UW control deck and I can't fathom why anyone would want a return of that kinda deck. My opponent played Kefnet and never attacked or blocked with it in 15+ turns.
You're right and necro is indeed supremely powerful. It might just end up wiggling itself into the deck. Issue then is that I constructed the deck to not require a full hand. Most of the removal is sorcery speed for that reason and to use a full grip I would need much more ramp which would mean as you mentioned previously cryptghast and its ilk.
I feel like you want 4 ballista in that listHeh currently experimenting with this as my 4c tower sideboard in the beta
Going full tempo. Played against a UW control deck and I can't fathom why anyone would want a return of that kinda deck. My opponent played Kefnet and never attacked or blocked with it in 15+ turns.
You're right and necro is indeed supremely powerful. It might just end up wiggling itself into the deck. Issue then is that I constructed the deck to not require a full hand. Most of the removal is sorcery speed for that reason and to use a full grip I would need much more ramp which would mean as you mentioned previously cryptghast and its ilk.
"God's Beard!"
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I'm not even brewing Standard anymore. I'm skipping straight to the good stuff.
TheBlackMarvel
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Given how terrified of him she still is by the events of SOI, we can assume she's not on the same tier as he is.
The only decision that boggles has is to keep a fetchland up when they are versing Liliana to search for dryad arbor so they don't get hit by an edict. Otherwise the deck is really easy to play. It plays the same in most matchups.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";233978679]I mean, having sideboard cards for bogles is one thing, but this dude played Blood Moon, Blessed Alliance, Nahiri, Anger of the Gods and Chalice for 1 against me lol[/QUOTE]
Those are maindeck cards in RW Prison decks. No one is using sb slots specifically for bogles mang.
Those are maindeck cards in RW Prison decks. No one is using sb slots specifically for bogles mang.
"God's Beard!"
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dryad arbor is a bad card
The interesting decision tree is how to build the deck, the whole point is to be as non-interactive as possible. Other than sequencing your best auras around your opponent's spells and playing around edicts you just go in.
I still almost won! Stupid chalice.
The interesting decision tree is how to build the deck, the whole point is to be as non-interactive as possible. Other than sequencing your best auras around your opponent's spells and playing around edicts you just go in.
I still almost won! Stupid chalice.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Dunno if others mentioned this or if it was even intentional by WotC but the flavour of Hapatra being able to put -1/-1 counters on herself is grandiose.
"God's Beard!"
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I dunno man, UW is pretty fun right now. I dunno if it can hold back the hordes, but we'll find out soon enough lol.
Why are you playing Planar Outburts over Fumigate. The life gain is way more valuable than the Awaken ability imo, because it just rarely comes up.
Listening to the latest GAM podcast and they're going through some random deck ideas. I'm really intrigued by UR Drake Emerge. You don't need Cycle for Drake Haven to work, just dumb your hand to Cathartic Reunion or Stitchwing Skaab and create incredible tempo.
Listening to the latest GAM podcast and they're going through some random deck ideas. I'm really intrigued by UR Drake Emerge. You don't need Cycle for Drake Haven to work, just dumb your hand to Cathartic Reunion or Stitchwing Skaab and create incredible tempo.
charlequin
Banned
I apparently missed this when it went up but Eric Klug did an alter of a classic FoW to reproduce the Eternal Masters art onto it:
and Terese Nielsen had some very nice words to say about it, lol.
and Terese Nielsen had some very nice words to say about it, lol.
I apparently missed this when it went up but Eric Klug did an alter of a classic FoW to reproduce the Eternal Masters art onto it:
and Terese Nielsen had some very nice words to say about it, lol.
OMG. Everything about this is awesome.
I apparently missed this when it went up but Eric Klug did an alter of a classic FoW to reproduce the Eternal Masters art onto it:
and Terese Nielsen had some very nice words to say about it, lol.
all is right with the world
Doesn't Dack Fayden just do tibalt's design better?
It isn't in Leovold, Emissary of Trest edh.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";233983359]dryad arbor is a bad card
The interesting decision tree is how to build the deck, the whole point is to be as non-interactive as possible. Other than sequencing your best auras around your opponent's spells and playing around edicts you just go in.
I still almost won! Stupid chalice.[/QUOTE]
Uhhhh...... Dryad arbor is why Green sun zenith is banned in modern.... It also is run in boggles to dodge liliana edict. The card is niche but good.
The interesting decision tree is how to build the deck, the whole point is to be as non-interactive as possible. Other than sequencing your best auras around your opponent's spells and playing around edicts you just go in.
I still almost won! Stupid chalice.[/QUOTE]
Uhhhh...... Dryad arbor is why Green sun zenith is banned in modern.... It also is run in boggles to dodge liliana edict. The card is niche but good.
It's what happened to me, also on Friday.
So it's not some unique issue, but I don't know if things are proceeding properly for either of us.
I wanted to thank everyone who gave me tips on getting into magic a few days ago. I went to the open night at the game shop near me tonight and had a lot of fun leaning with another person who showed up who hadnt played in 12 years. I got to keep the starter deck they gave me to play with (red/black). 1/3rd of it seems to be cards from the new set. I also signed up for the pre-release event next week.
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