Why would they ring at all when they are all supposed to be off (or in flight mode) during flight and probably most were at the time of an "incident"?
Not to mention they would have to be close enough to a cell tower...
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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Why would they ring at all when they are all supposed to be off (or in flight mode) during flight and probably most were at the time of an "incident"?
Not to mention they would have to be close enough to a cell tower...
guys where is the plane actually now said to have gone missing?
is it off the eastern coast of malaysia as it left? or is it on the eastern coast of vietnam?
ive looked at the trackers and there are two different narratives. kind of confusing.
and where are the searches taking place?
is it off the eastern coast of malaysia as it left? or is it on the eastern coast of vietnam?
ive looked at the trackers and there are two different narratives. kind of confusing.
and where are the searches taking place?
criesofthepast
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This whole incident got me googling plane crashes and I stumbled upon a site that has the transcript of the last words on the data recorder of many fatal flights. Maybe a bit morbid to read but some of them are just unreal. The final moments and what some say. Just really painful to read. Some having enough warning knowing what's about to happen and saying goodbye to their families. Fuck.
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/lastwords.htm
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/lastwords.htm
FlutterPuffs
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Can anyone explain why they are focusing so much on the Strait of Malacca.
According to this image (from BBC)
It seems that they have been putting a lot of effort into that area despite it being quite far from the last contact point while so far ignoring large areas of South China seas and Bay of Thailand which, at least to me, seems much more likely.
There's a possibility that the plane has landed or crashed somewhere in that area.
Chittagong
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Good writeup - http://theconversation.com/what-could-have-happened-to-flight-mh370-24161
the sequence of events would appear to be
1. an event first rendering all comms and electronic equipment unusable
2. then a departure from flight path
3. then the crash in an 'unexpected' location
The Conversation said:
the sequence of events would appear to be
1. an event first rendering all comms and electronic equipment unusable
2. then a departure from flight path
3. then the crash in an 'unexpected' location
This tweet is 2 hours old at this point. Has there been any more movement on this?
Some of them have audio files you can download if you click ATC to the left of them.
Unless it's positively identified, this kind of news is basically meaningless, or even worse, giving false hope.
No thanks, I'd like to sleep peacefully again at some point in my life.
They've just scheduled a press conference for 3am EST, about 1.5 hours from now.
Cathay pacific also flies the 777 same aircraft that has crashed maybe the cathay pilots recognized something.
7DollarHagane
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It's a totally crackpot idea but has it been considered that the flight was hijacked and all electronics/communications disabled?
No its probably crashed somewhere we can't find.
No its probably crashed somewhere we can't find.
Not a crackpot theory at all, there are a lot of people who share it, including myself.
That's the same location we were getting reports from last night. I'm still at a loss as to how it ended up so far off course.A lot of brand new tweets saying something's up.
Freaky Fred
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Lamel
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I've actually been doing a lot of reading on plane crashes recently too. Tragic and interesting at the same time; all in all, very scary.
Chittagong
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complete lack of electronic and radio equipment, that would seem to be within a glideable distance. The interesting question would be that how Vietnam would not have detected a zombie plane whizzing accross their airspace
That location is roughly 7 minutes and 17 seconds off course, going by the optimal cruise speed of a 777 (Mach 0.84)
Well, this is disconcerting.
chalkitdown1
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Just read the transcript of the Air France 447 crashed and it was fascinatingly morbid. The two co-pilots had no idea what they were doing at all.
Fjolle
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Please stop with the mobile ringning stuff. It's a red herring.
You're a really informative "insider"
This. People calling phones will hear ringing while the cell network searches for the phone, before any contact is established. For international calls the search time is even longer. You can test this yourself if you have two cell phones or yours + a friends. My co-worker called my number once standing next to me to give me his number the lazy way and it rang a good 4-5 times before my phone finally rang once.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Can someone explain this Mr. Ali angle some news media is reporting on?
Basics: Man from Iran. Bought tickets in cash for the two passengers with the stolen passports.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Here's another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfh9-ogUgSQWhy did I read/listen to those?
In several simulators after this crash, no one could fly the plane even close to as far as these guys managed. A really heroic effort.
e: oops, didn't give you the subbed version
Kinky John
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Offtopic, but related to aircraft safety: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLmzvF2qkDY
You'd think that hatch would be locked. :-/
You'd think that hatch would be locked. :-/
BUNTING1243
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The guy who said that actually survived. The "Goodnight, Goodbye, We Perish!" is pretty chilling. Also, the "Ma, I love you" and well the entire final transcript with the captain calling the airplane his "baby" during the final moments.
aeroslash
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That's what i've been saying in this thread all along..
And_Gignac
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AP said:
This just ads more sadness to the tragedy.
Not surprised. Hope the media will get off their terrorism schtick now.
Chittagong
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I guess the hard part there to reconcile is what kind of an 'event' would render all outbound comms dead with no backup systems operational, yet would allow the plane glide and crash far away from the place where the comms killing 'event' occurred.
The 'event' could be anything, too. Catastrophic or malicious.
Yeah, this.
aeroslash
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A fire in the avionics compartment. As simple as that. It's all very protected but it's not impossible. It could start with a comm failure, after that the crew noticing the fire and trying to go down somewhere.
Slayer-33
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This might be the most plausible thing that happened here..
Oh, yeah, obviously. By "contact" I meant in terms of the plane being actually visible to radars. I'd assume it had already "vanished" in that sense before the problem occured, given the last known location.
Are you the A3xx pilot? I know there's one on GAF but can't remember the username
Wind's Howling
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So.. if they find the debri's, then what? It is not like the 'black box' floats around in the same spot.
Least the families will have some closure, to a certain degree. I mean it's 99% likely that the plane is crashed somewhere and nobody survived, but I'd imagine if you were a family member you'd be clinging to that 1% and convincing yourself that they are all safe sat in a foreign country etc
Chittagong
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That seems plausible. So plane did fly away from the initial comms failure point, descended to an altitude below radar coverage before entering any surrounding country's radar reach, and then possibly flew even a bit further below the radar and ultimately crashed in who knows where.
Wind's Howling
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Sounds like there is a good possibility the plane will never be found.
currents are generally known so it wouldnt be hard to at least get a general area and distance away to start searching.
Dorsal Axe
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Was he actually serious about that comment? I'd assumed he was just poking fun at the inane questions the media keep asking.
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