TheCochese
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They have Republican Secs of State who oversee voting, and if they're anything like Brian Kemp of Georgia they can be some unapologetic Trump dick guzzlers.
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Manafort Notes of Russian Meeting Mention "RNC Donations"
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They have Republican Secs of State who oversee voting, and if they're anything like Brian Kemp of Georgia they can be some unapologetic Trump dick guzzlers.
KernelPanic
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It's all they got.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Link to this?
http://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jill-stein-election-recount_us_58507032e4b092f08685ff68
Stein crowdfunded a recount and the recount just confirmed the result -but they only got the recount in one state. And if Stein is a Russian stooge, and knew which one state didn't tamper... Well, now we're full-on conspiracy all the way down.
Wet Bloodfart
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Even if Trump is basically immune due to GOP inaction in Congress, the result of this investigation completely ruins is stranglehold on public opinion. It makes his case for reelection even more daunting than it already is.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
I know, the irony of it all huh.
If you know exactly what districts you need to fuck with to get a win, manipulating voter rolls seems much more feasible. Not that it happened, but we already know that their efforts were lazer focused on the exact districts they needed to win, and we know they needed cooperation to have such detailed voter information. The only question is who and how.
The whole thing is beyond complicated. We're literally in uncharted waters constitutionally. All we have to guide us is what happened with Nixon, which stopped just before shit got real, and random constitutional theory. Unless Trump steps down when shit starts getting real, and Congress doesn't move, expect the Supreme Court to get involved at some point.
BronsonLee
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Yeah I have no idea what happens if we get past Nixon territory
I would say GOP could try to force the issue, but they seem A: complicit and B: spineless
We're basically at the point where he needs the Presidency to defend himself from allegations, but when he's out of office..
I would say GOP could try to force the issue, but they seem A: complicit and B: spineless
We're basically at the point where he needs the Presidency to defend himself from allegations, but when he's out of office..
Netherscourge
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Man - these smartphones...
If it ain't Nude Pics of themselves, it's Russian collusion notes.
If it ain't Nude Pics of themselves, it's Russian collusion notes.
...and this could ALSO be a shit show, because Gorsuch was nominated by Trump. Conflict of interest.
Yekshemesh
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Manafort's gonna flip, just a matter of when if he hasn't already.
Lol I never thought of it that way
*looks into 2020 crystal ball*
"Crooked Mueller, witch-hunt, MAGA, low-energy (insert Democratic opponent here), bigly."
*Trump wins electoral college*
edit: I simply mean, there is a subset of the population that thinks this is all "fake news" and "deep state," and are perfectly fine with Donald "he's new at this" Trump.
Nominated by Trump then confirmed after lowering the necessary congressional votes from 60 to 51. A vote that ran along party lines.
Trump's basically testing the limits of the Constitution. Also, I imagine the other justices would pressure him to recuse himself if he's reluctant to.
Even if this wasn't the case it would be a shitshow of epic proportions.
Trump's hardcore demographic is small, don't forget that.
Netherscourge
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Trump just loves him some Sheriffs.
I sure hope that's true.
More importantly, I hope the people who decided elections were a waste of time, and didn't bother to show in November last year don't do the same thing in 2020.
shawnbuddy
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KernelPanic
Member
They already tried getting him a job at DHS which didn't happen.
Clarke was visiting Russia too, I wonder if that's at
play here.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/top-trump-ally-met-with-putins-deputy-in-moscow
Why is a county sheriff getting paid to go to Russia?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I have bad news for you. Jill Stein's communications were subpoenaed by Mueller.
There's also this...
Also, Wisconsin doesn't have paper ballots everywhere. There was a large difference in Hillary's performance between electronic and paper ballots in that state, easily enough to make the difference.
BlueTsunami
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So when is this investigation going to have its stumbling on Clay Davis of The Wire moment? A crushing pushback from the establishment because this goes beyond Trump.
LegendofJoe
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If Jill Stein has the nerve to seek the nomination of the Green Party again I am going to blow a gasket.
hydragonwarrior
Member
Speaking of whom, isn't she a bit paranoid that the EPA is now headed by a Climate Change Denier? Does she even care that she helped Trump get elected?
Chmpocalypse
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I have bad news for you. Jill Stein's communications were subpoenaed by Mueller.
There's also this...
Also, Wisconsin doesn't have paper ballots everywhere. There was a large difference in Hillary's performance between electronic and paper ballots in that state, easily enough to make the difference.
Conspiracy time... was Stein recruited as a backup plan spoiler candidate?
BlastProcessing
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Russia just wants to do whatever they can to signal boost the fringes of US politics. They want to sow chaos.
Username1198
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Holy shit lol. trump jr. is really REALLY fucking stupid. Lmao
Tal Shiar Agent
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I hope Mattis is ready to go when it invariably comes down to it.
BlueTsunami
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SolarPowered
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Open your eyes. The Russians already infiltrated the Republican party. Pretty soon they'll get into our courts. Looks like we're gonna have to start learning the Cyrillic alphabet.
RICO pls
RICO pls
sir_kevith
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She's explicitly mentioned in the Dossier and RT promotes her. I think she's just completely owned by Russia and willing to be used for whatever purpose benefits them.
Harrison Bergeron
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NihonTiger90
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Of the three states Trump won that swung him the election narrowly, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have Democratic Secretaries of State, one of which (La Folette in WI) ran as a candidate in the previous election.
Michigan has a Republican SoS. So does Ohio, but vote integrity is Husted's baby so much that him rigging the vote for Trump at the state level would end him politically forever, as well as Kasich and the governor's entire cabinet. And he knows that 2018 was his shot to win the governorship; I can't believe he'd be stupid enough to ruin his life forever and seem like a completely phony human being.
Punchy4486
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PantherLotus
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Still going through this thread but wanted to pause to note that this post from stinkles should be the real fear here.
If we're talking about a conspiracy that includes any more than the trump team itself, even one more person like Ryan or McConnell, or just one media outlet / person at that outlet, we are in a place that we cannot recover from. This experiment is over. Money and greed and white power won.
Hope I'm wrong.
If we're talking about a conspiracy that includes any more than the trump team itself, even one more person like Ryan or McConnell, or just one media outlet / person at that outlet, we are in a place that we cannot recover from. This experiment is over. Money and greed and white power won.
Hope I'm wrong.
Lightning_Roller
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Yeah, it's terrifying to think about. And to add on to this, think about the millions of people who either don't care about what the GOP does or feverishly defend them, even if it means to the death. If there really is a dreaded article about confirmation of blatantly tampered votes in the election, I'm afraid all hell would break loose from the Republicans that would go frothing mad if we even try to get justice.
If only agree if we try to do something about it and all attempts are quashed somehow. As in gop walks away after whichever major election follows the revelations with the same if not more power.
Realistically you've got to think that congressmen are already secretly preparing laws and regulations to cover the gaps we've just identified, in fear they will be used against them in the future. Demographics are changing, and I think they all realize it.
I have bad news for you. Jill Stein's communications were subpoenaed by Mueller.
There's also this...
Also, Wisconsin doesn't have paper ballots everywhere. There was a large difference in Hillary's performance between electronic and paper ballots in that state, easily enough to make the difference.
Emir Kusturica?!?!
Maaaaaaan...I love his music, too...
Carpe Carnim
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I am pretty convinced he's been flipped for a while. He's been the only smart Trumpite; quiet and hidden. Because he's a mercenary. People like Sater and Manafort know that information is a great way to mitigate hard time in prison when the chips are down.
These came from his personal notes. Mueller subpoena'd that stuff months ago. I have yuuuuuuuge doubts about Manafort's steadfastness when it's obvious he's caught dead to rights for money laundering and who knows what else.
Russia's been attacking from the far left AND right for a long time.
I can see Sater flipping and helping the investigations (prior news on his character, recent news on this whole story), but Mueller might be pressuring Manafort because he has not flipped and is still a work in process.
Beer Monkey
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Sater IS a flipper. It's his MO. Dude won't go to prison to protect anybody.
If Manafort doesn't flip, I can see him being the first arrest to be made an example of. Someone else mentioned Flynn in the thread, but I think he's probably flipped by now.