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TacticalFox88
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One thing I STILL don't get is how did Ichigo accepting Tensa Zangetsu just augment his skill and power to Over 9000. Seriously, all he literally did for three months was just fight TZ. Not learning the skills. So once he accepted TZ's blade and got a new haircut he can just totally curbstomp everyone?
It was still cool as fuck, but logically, goddamn. I think Kubo follows Rule of Cool a bit too much.
It was still cool as fuck, but logically, goddamn. I think Kubo follows Rule of Cool a bit too much.
Dedication Through Light
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Kusagari said:
Well Urahara sure recovered fast! Considering how those three characters never revealed their bankai level either, I do not want to fall victim to under estimating characters. If Isshin was able to even suggest to Ichigo of the final getsuga tenshou...well, doesnt that imply that Isshin is that strong as well...The heirarchy of power is just unable to be determined. I think Captain Commander Yamamoto would have eliminated FGT Ichigo with the move he was trying to setup on Aizen.
zazrx said:
TRUE (well he looked cool all the time)
Stat Flow said:
watervengeance said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Anyways
Sket Dance
Thanks to those who were hyping up Sket Dance. Got up to Switch OFF it was intriguing, sad, WTF and done really well. It was really strange for Sket Dance to go in this direction with the direction it was going before. Hope there's more to come.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Still wouldn't have changed the outcome, likely.Pandaman said:
zazrx said:
A couple things about what you said...(Although I edited my post)
Ichigo's dad wasn't shocked...he expected Ichigo to be able to sense Aizen's power. This is another point that lends to my theory that Kisuke, Yoruichi, and Isshin didn't try against Aizen. Instead, they came to the conclusion that to successfully revert him back to his seal-able state, they would need something massive like Final Getsuga Tenshou. Kisuke and Yoruichi can't do it and I'm guessing Isshin already did. I'm sure they came to FKT with the plan to do the Kido-Within a Kido and have Ichigo do his training for it. This is why they threw the battle, which also put Ichigo in a state of desperation. Kisuke didn't go Bankai and Isshin didn't go Shikai. I don't believe they even tried to actually fight Aizen.
And about Tatsuki being able to sense Aizen's power, it didn't make sense until Aizen said "The humans could feel my power once I dropped mine to a level where they could feel it"...which means that that's what he probably did when he went to KT.
And about Ichigo's long hair, I was discussing this on another forum, and why it's conceivable that Long Hair Ichigo could make a return. He never actually cut his hair, they said that when he lost his powers, it was not a literal loss but more of an actual "reversal" of the time he spent in the Precipice World. In other worlds, the soul can age independently from the physical body. Therefore, it's possible that when he gets his Shinigami powers back, if he gets them back in his state post-FGT training, his hair will be in that state when he falls out of his physical body and into his soul form. I'd like that, since he looked badass with longer hair.
And I meant to say that Kubo's titles actually do make sense (Deicide (To Kill a God), Soul Pantheism (Movement of Souls - Fullbring), and now this current one)...but they are just worded obscurely or rather in words not traditionally used.
TacticalFox88 said:
the way i saw it, accepting the blade lets him use all of his power freely (no need to hollowify or use the second hollow form), comes with extra power and lets him use the FGT. since using the technique makes his powers disappear along with TZ, it was obvious TZ wouldn't want to let Ichigo do that. the extra time was needed to convince him like how it happened.
One Piece: Maybe its just me being hopeful, but with Jimbei sitting by the queen's grave, lamenting over the past, I'm getting the feeling we're about to see a tragic flashback... which is always a good sign of a potential crew mate joining. Jimbei would be a perfect fit; He's a fishman (a first for the crew), He's shown himself to be a helmsman (one of the few roles not filled in the crew), and he's just an all around badass. So far, he's the only person in this arc that seems worthy to join the Strawhats... so make it come true Oda!
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That's what's up!Dedication Through Light said:TRUE (well he looked cool all the time)
Stat Flow said:
If you look at it that way, it kind of makes sense that that is what happened with them throwing the fight. Now that Isshin already did it, I doubt it because he wouldn't have his shinigami powers then and there should be no way for him to get them back since the possibility of doing that was just introduced to us with this new arc.
Hope you are right about the hair.
flintstryker
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Bleach
We have a genius on our hands here.
We have a genius on our hands here.
Stat Flow said:
They didn't go Bankai(but almost nobody does in Bleach so this says nothing to me) but they were trying their hardest to hurt Condom Aizen. They got leveled the second Aizen evolved into his mullet form so you're saying that they collaborated to throw the fight the instant that Aizen evolved again?
Also I don't get where you're pulling this kido-with a kido thing for training from. Urahara would most likely be the only one who could do that and Isshin and Ichigo followed after Aizen right after he went through the portal. They had no way of knowing that Aizen would destroy the sweeper in the Dangai allowing Ichigo to train. So, it seems to me they had no real plan and got lucky Aizen was an egomaniac.
zazrx said:
You sure about that? Isshin is literally shrouded in mystery. Why do you think he knew so much about FGT when telling Ichigo about it. His swords name is Engetsu and he said to Ichigo "They don't want to teach us this move"...also, Kisuke said to Isshin way back in the manga "Oh, so you got your powers back?" These two facts lead me to believe that Isshin has used FGT and got his powers back somehow. Now, how he did this is all speculation, but I would not doubt it was Fullbring. Just because it wasn't introduced at the time doesn't mean anything because Isshin hasn't said shit about who or what he is. Also, do you think it was a coincidence that Ginjou had a picture of Isshin? Let's not forget this panel as well:
Sure, Ginjou said that he only mentioned Isshin as bait for Ichigo's interest, but I highly doubt that.
Kusagari said:
We've seen like 4 bankai's right? And how can you say they were trying their hardest when they didn't even release their swords?
And I meant the kido-within-a-kido that Kisuke planted in Aizen during the fight. The Kido's purpose was to seal Aizen when he was weakened. He said that he planted it in Aizen at a planned time.
Consider these facts:
-Aizen says that Kisuke is the only person in Soul Society who is smarter than he is.
-Ichigo is Isshin's son
-No one knows more about Ichigo's potential and the source of his powers than Kisuke and Isshin.
-Kisuke and Isshin are the most mysterious characters in Bleach shown on screen.
-Kisuke knows that Ichigo is Aizen's experiment, by logic, most likely. Kisuke and Isshin are acquaintances, so Kisuke probably knows what Ichigo is and what makes him special.
Now consider these chain of events
KIY (Kisuke, Isshin, and Yoruichi) show up after the captains have been fighting and lose to Aizen. KIY are not affiliated with any of Soul Society.
KIY fight Aizen. Ichigo watches.
KIY "lose." Then, Suddenly, Isshin gets up and tells Ichigo that he has a plan. Kisuke and Yoruichi are nowhere to be found (still on the ground)
Isshin teaches Ichigo the ins and outs of FGT and how he's going to achieve it.
Ichigo does it as all protagonists should (successfully gets FGT), beats Aizen, but Aizen is still not defeated.
Kisuke shows up, and says that his plan worked.
I don't see how it's hard to see that this, was a plan devised by Kisuke and possibly Isshin, and also involved Ichigo. Kisuke said that Aizen was probably impossible to defeat so he created a Kido to seal him, but he needed Ichigo (with FGT) to make that happen.
TacticalFox88
Banned
We're actually applying logic to Bleach....that makes sense? How far we've come.
TacticalFox88 said:
I think a lot of people underrate Bleach for what it is because of the simple appearance it has. Slashing, fighting, etc. etc. But Aizen really did a lot of great things for the manga, which is why I didn't mind his broken-ness as a villain (villains are supposed to be hax, that's what makes them villains) I loved some of the things Aizen said ("There are no truths or lies in this world") said the last arc and the undertone of what he was trying to do was subtle. Even though he said he was achieving god-hood and ascending beyond Shinigami/Hollow, what was he really creating the King's Key for? What awaited him in the Royal palace? Is the realm that lies beyond Soul Society, where the Spirit King lives, the place where literal "gods" reside? Eh, idk.
Dedication Through Light
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TacticalFox88 said:
Well they are interesting hypotheses to reason why the most illusive characters didnt reveal their bankai.
TacticalFox88
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My personal theory is that the King of Soul Society is a real asshole and Aizen has a personal vendetta against him. I think at this point, Ichigo being related to the King is almost practically guaranteed.Stat Flow said:
Dedication Through Light
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TacticalFox88 said:
How is he related? His mother? Isshins father?! What?
TacticalFox88
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I never said I had evidence for it, but it's just a gut feeling. lolDedication Through Light said:
if a fishman is going to join then he is the ultimate candidate. only the best at something or those looking to the best join the strawhats.ryan13ts said:
nami- best navigator
zoro- best swordsman
sanji- best cook
chopper- best doctor
franky- best shipwright
usopp- best sniper
robin- i guess you can say she is the best historian since the government killed the others off
brooke- since he became a huge star i guess you can say he is the best musician
jimbei isn't going to be working towards being the best fishman but he is the best fishman we have seen in the series. we don't know what his mission will end up being. my guess it will be related to luffy becoming pirate king so he can change the world or something like that.
smurfx said:
Jinbei is indeed a great candidate for next SH. Wouldn't his mission be to protect and watch Luffy become great...for Ace's sake? That was his promise to Ace if he died, and what a better way than to become a part of his crew?
Also, he's very useful for all of the devil fruit users in the crew, being able to save them in a jiffy if they run into any harm by touching water/
I'd guess it would have something to do when MS started trasnlating, One Piece is usually out in the morning on days where they release their manga but it was out in the afternoon. Seems like the big 3 got pushed back.
And after re-reading that Bleach chapter, Ginjou's presence in it was quite nice. How it was almost like he was speaking from personal experience when he was speaking of Ichigo's battle experience and powers. Also, how he was looking down and watching Ichigo while he didn't really seem to notice, and lastly how Ichigo's serious expression reminded me of Ginjou's. Seems like everything is going according to Ginjou's plan and I'm not sure how that fares for Ichigo's sake.
And after re-reading that Bleach chapter, Ginjou's presence in it was quite nice. How it was almost like he was speaking from personal experience when he was speaking of Ichigo's battle experience and powers. Also, how he was looking down and watching Ichigo while he didn't really seem to notice, and lastly how Ichigo's serious expression reminded me of Ginjou's. Seems like everything is going according to Ginjou's plan and I'm not sure how that fares for Ichigo's sake.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Apologies for a hidden (faded) inappropriate message on one of the Bleach pages. It slipped through our QC, the staffer will be dealt with.
Fri Feb 18 03:02:08 +0000 2011
I missed it
Fri Feb 18 03:02:08 +0000 2011
I missed it
Crash Station
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The last 2 crewmates to join have similar fighting styles to the top 2 members, but are weaker. Jinbei follows the pattern with the exception of being weaker unless he did nothing during the last 2 years while Sanji got ridiculously strong.
Black-Wind
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I'm guessing translating.Lonely1 said:
I assumed it would be tricky once I read the spoilers. Seems like one of those Japanese word play chaps that would be hard to turn into English and have it make sense.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The translator for Mangastream's Naruto releases is a gaffer.Black-Wind said:
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
ryan13ts said:
A flashback about the queen's death could point equally to Shirahoshi (who is also bonding with Luffy and wants to see the world outside of her tower).
I think having Jinbe, who is stronger than any of the crew so far, joining would upset the balance of power somewhat. He's an amazing character, but I don't think he would fit with the crew. I'm also not sure what dream he has that could only be fulfilled by traveling with Luffy.
erasing the prejudice that exist between humans and fishmen/mermen? stopping the enslavement of fishmen/mermen? he won't be able to do anything about those things by himself. i think at the end of the fishman island arc jimbei might end up joining as some show of good faith that he and luffy will work together to end the hate humans and fishmen have towards each other. that would endear luffy to the fishmen and mermen and put their hopes into luffy becoming pirate king and changing the world. i have a feeling this is going to go down. especially if fishman island is destroyed and the fishmen/mermen have to now live with humans.KuwabaraTheMan said:
Dedication Through Light
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Drkirby said:
Its time to add another Straw Hat to the crew? I think they could use another female to be honest.
KuwabaraTheMan
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smurfx said:
I didn't think it was possible for a more 'out of left field' suggestion than all of that 'Perona will join!' nonsense from awhile back, but I think you've just stumbled on it.
Actually, I saw people elsewhere speculating on Neptune joining. I think that's worse.
grandjedi6
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One Piece
Hodi is this arc's Wiper.
Also I highly doubt this is a "crewmate joining" arc. Even the prerequisite arc-ly flashback is being set up more like Skypeia's than any of the crewmates'.
Hodi is this arc's Wiper.
Also I highly doubt this is a "crewmate joining" arc. Even the prerequisite arc-ly flashback is being set up more like Skypeia's than any of the crewmates'.
lol i've been on the bonney for crewmate bandwagon since the supernovas reveal. she has a back story and i'm sure we haven't seen the last of her. she will be involved in the first island the strawhats go to when they finally enter the new world. believe!KuwabaraTheMan said:
if the queens ideals were something similar to what i posted a few posts up and she wanted to erase the prejudice among the sea people and humans then jimbei joining the strawhats is almost guaranteed. i can almost guarantee that he will then up up trying to finish what she started. she probably got killed for having such ideas.grandjedi6 said:
flintstryker
Banned
Dunno man Wiper was pretty badass, Hodi doesn't seem that way to me.grandjedi6 said:
flintstryker
Banned
Drkirby said:
Actually in the arlong arc he introduced himself as the second strongest swordsman on fisherman isle.
flintstryker
Banned
Its starts decent but got pretty uninteresting later on i say give it a chance though you might like it.Griffith said:
Oh and i also recommend Kekaishi is you haven't read that yet.
Crash Station
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Griffith said:
It's the shounen formula perfected. That could be either good or bad depending on who you ask. Give it a try at least up to the Phantom arc.
Dedication Through Light
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Griffith said:
Is Fairy Tail worth reading?! Is it worth reading?! Truly you do not know the gloriousness of this epic series. It is so worth reading that I am even reading it through a second time because its just that awesome. The mages guild story of just going on these nice quests with often over the top high class action and comedy makes it a favorite in my book. If one keeps their expectations in check and enjoys the ride in seeing their favorite characters deliver epic damage to opponents then it is truly worth reading. Verily, it is good, and each arc just gets even better than the previous.
Zoramon089
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I can't see Hodi doing anything nearly as impressive as when Wiper used the Line Impact (whatever it was called) TWICE without dying. Oh and he killed Enel, before his DF fruit haxflintstryker said:
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