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[EmCeeGramr]

One Piece

There has to be some kind of huge twist or reveal coming. Everything is coming to a head extremely soon, Hodi and Van der Decken don't seem that strong (though perhaps we haven't seen the extent of Hodi's abilities), the reason for Jinbe telling Luffy not to fight Hodi hasn't been revealed, Caribou is still on the loose, there's Madam Shirley's prediction about Luffy, there's a Poneglyph on the island, they set up Big Mom's candy factory and protection of Fishman Island, etc.


Crazy prediction: Like they're going to take down Hodi and find out Big Mom was responsible for him or something, forcing Luffy to fight her and thus leave Fishman Island defenseless, resulting in its "destruction."

 

[RepairmanJack]

I too am in the camp that there is going to be some kind of big reveal. Stuff is happening too soon, and I just dont see Decken or Hodi being this arc's big bads. I'm very curious what the poneglyph may reveal, and maybe the poneglyph and Fishman Island's destruction are somehow connected?

Anyway good chapter, and good to see what Robin and Franky are up to.

Editid anyone else think the guy facing away carrying a sack in one of the first few panels looked like the fake SH Franky? It looked like him but I could be wrong. I'm at work or I would post the image.

 

[Jexemad]

Bleach is up.

DAT SMIRK

So now we have two Aizen 2? Or this one will be Aizen 3?

 

[Freshmaker]

Bleach is up.

DAT SMIRK

So now we have two Aizen 2? Or this one will be Aizen 3?

Just Aizen 1. He's spamming shadow clones.

 

[That Singer Guy...]

Hodi is Fisher Tiger's son confirmed or Jinbei's sister was the queen confirmed...

Spoiler

J/K

but Franky having that conversation with Tom's brother will definitely be a very important element to the story in the upcoming chapters.

 

[watervengeance]

Bleach - Are we really supposed to believe that Inoue's going to fight?

 

[AlimNassor]

I wanna see Zoro and Hyozou fight already. Hyozou looks pretty strong and the fact he took a hit from pissed off luffy and not only shrugged it off but countered instantly must mean he's absurdly strong.

Edit: I don't wanna believe Aizen is Ginjou, I'm sick of Aizen. Also, I hope Ginjou isn't a villain.

 

[Xamdou]

Bleach - Are we really supposed to believe that Inoue's going to fight?

Nope, she is just going to give herself up so that no one else can get hurt!

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Bleach 438

Wow Kubo really wanted to give Orihime another good look, I had to look twice at the panel (almost as good as the one when she is eating that cupcake...) jk. Anyway, I hope this means that she actually has good fighting ability (finally hopefully Tsubaki wont be defeated yet again if she calls him out for help, assuming she still uses those powers).

And Rukia's voice, my Rukia! Love!!! She better appear soon!

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Bleach is up.

DAT SMIRK

So now we have two Aizen 2? Or this one will be Aizen 3?

He's not Byakuya 3?

 

[Stat Flow]

Bleach

As usual, not much happened. Even though the spoilers said it I'm a little surprised (though I guess it makes sense) that Soul Society is keeping tabs on Ichigo. This probably definitely has something to do with Ginjou, cause he got his Aizen smirk going on at the end of that training segment.

As for Inoue and company, I'm glad we get to see more about the threat, hopefully something actually goes down next chapter. Inoue looked pretty serious there, but I'm not sure she can take on the dude that fucked up Ishida...but then again we don't know what she's done off screen during the timeskip.

 

[AlimNassor]

Bleach

Anyone else think Riruka was absolutely adorable this chapter ;-;

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Bleach

As usual, not much happened. Even though the spoilers said it I'm a little surprised (though I guess it makes sense) that Soul Society is keeping tabs on Ichigo. This probably definitely has something to do with Ginjou, cause he got his Aizen smirk going on at the end of that training segment.

As for Inoue and company, I'm glad we get to see more about the threat, hopefully something actually goes down next chapter. Inoue looked pretty serious there, but I'm not sure she can take on the dude that fucked up Ishida...but then again we don't know what she's done off screen during the timeskip.

I thought it was stated that shes been helping Uryu and Chad with eliminating the hollows appearing in Karakura? (cant really go back to reread the chps...so Im only 80% confident)

 

[gundamkyoukai]

OP
Some more info this week , like most people are saying it's really hard to see hodi and Van der Decken as the main bad guys for this arc.

HDSK
Okay chapter , along with fan service lol

 

[Kusagari]

Bleach:

The guy at the end was Aizen. He's trolling high school gangs in his down time.

 

[watervengeance]

Bleach - I still find it difficult to believe that these guys didn't make an appearance when the Arrancar attacked, or that the Arrancar didn't attack them. I hate it when authors introduce new characters that should've been present in an earlier threat.

 

[Trojita]

BLEACH

Absolutely nothing happened.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Bleach - I still find it difficult to believe that these guys didn't make an appearance when the Arrancar attacked, or that the Arrancar didn't attack them. I hate it when authors introduce new characters that should've been present in an earlier threat.

They could have been sleeping, out of town, or in Soul Society somewhere? ? Then we have to wonder where the rest of Urahara's crew were when the Arrancar were attacking, right?

 

[Paprikka]

Yumekui Merry 24 - Yumeji summons a guillotine sword then rips a hole between dream worlds to bring in his own personal catgirl army. Awesome.

 

[Deadly]

Bleach
Interesting...Story is progressing....just veeeeryyy slowly.

 

[survivor]

Bleach

Why doesn't anything happen in this manga? 20 pages and all what we got was a third Aizen.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Bleach

As usual, not much happened.

BLEACH

Absolutely nothing happened.

Bleach

Why doesn't anything happen in this manga? 20 pages and all what we got was a third Aizen.

What do you mean why doesnt anything happen? Nothing happened last week, or the week before, or the week before that week, or the week before that week which was before the week before that week?

Developing a new character and his potential crony, hearing Rukia and others, and Ichigo coming back out of the box, is quite a lot happening.

 

[Kusagari]

What do you mean why doesnt anything happen? Nothing happened last week, or the week before, or the week before that week, or the week before that week which was before the week before that week?

Developing a new character and his potential crony, hearing Rukia and others, and Ichigo coming back out of the box, is quite a lot happening.

That would have happened in 3 pages in One Piece. And what character was developed? The punk kid who will probably never appear again after this?

 

[Stat Flow]

What do you mean why doesnt anything happen? Nothing happened last week, or the week before, or the week before that week, or the week before that week which was before the week before that week?

Developing a new character and his potential crony, hearing Rukia and others, and Ichigo coming back out of the box, is quite a lot happening.

I'm not one of the many Bleach haters here. Stuff is actually happening. It's just happening very slowly is all. I still think it's intriguing, most notably this chapter the fact that the Badge is some kind of transmitter to Soul Society. The bigger deal is that Ginjou also has a badge, what could that mean, and has SS been keeping up with Ichigo? How and why?

New enemy introduced, Inoue could be fighting, Ichigo has also passed part one of his training and has what could be the first step to a new weapon. Things are definitely happening and picking up, not to mention it's the start of an arc...but like I said, it's going slow. Slow isn't necessarily that bad though, I just feel like week to week it is magnified definitely.

For example, not much really happened in the OP chapter either. We found out some interesting stuff, but that's about it.

OMFG! STFU with the OP comparisons! Fuck. They're two entirely different manga with entirely different things going on.

You guys overrate the amount of development that goes on in OP

Shit, I was just thinking this. I agree.

 

[TacticalFox88]

That would have happened in 3 pages in One Piece. And what character was developed? The punk kid who will probably never appear again after this?

OMFG! STFU with the OP comparisons! Fuck. They're two entirely different manga with entirely different things going on.

You guys overrate the amount of development that goes on in OP

 

[ZoddGutts]

OMFG! STFU with the OP comparisons! Fuck. They're two entirely different manga with entirely different things going on.

You guys overrate the amount of development that goes on in OP

How is he wrong? Oda likes to cram as much info in each single panel.

 

[Kusagari]

OMFG! STFU with the OP comparisons! Fuck. They're two entirely different manga with entirely different things going on.

You guys overrate the amount of development that goes on in OP

More happens in Naruto than Bleach too. More happens in the daily cartoons in my newspaper. One Piece is the best example because Oda does a lot with his panels but it isn't the only example. Bleach is just a hideously slow manga and it's been that way for years. However, it got especially bad in the Winter War/Deicide arc and has continued that way into this one.

 

[geeko]

I think he means its kinda like a OP circle jerk in here.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Bleach - Are we really supposed to believe that Inoue's going to fight?

I hope so, since she hasn't done anything resembling it for years.

And someone else has appeared.....



One Piece

Zoro once again showing that he can fight alone with the others sipping a drink lol

Franky meeting Tom's Bro and Jinbe plus a polyglyph being there is interesting.

Van Decken vs Luffy next?

 

[tsurugi no mai]

I think he means its kinda like a OP circle jerk in here.

This. Never seen so much OP dickriding.

 

[Kreed]

I think he means its kinda like a OP circle jerk in here.

This. Never seen so much OP dickriding.

I swear this topic goes in circles.

Coming up next: One Piece Art complaints.

 

[Squall ASF]

Bleach must seriously have the worst pacing in the history of shonen. It's pathetic how little things develop per chapter. I suppose this is hidden better during the battles but man does it show in the current snail paced arc.

Sigh, why must Naruto always take so long to come out?

 

[Relix]

This is more plot than we ever got out of 100 Bleach chapters. Enjoy it =P

 

[Freshmaker]

Bleach

Why doesn't anything happen in this manga? 20 pages and all what we got was a third Aizen.

Aizen? Honestly, I thought he was Ishida until he started talking.

People whining about the pace should be thankful though. I thought that stuffed pig was going to get up and start fighting some more.

More happens in Naruto than Bleach too.

Whatever it is you just ate, go lie down. It's warped your perception of reality.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Aizen? Honestly, I thought he was Ishida until he started talking.

People whining about the pace should be thankful though. I thought that stuffed pig was going to get up and start fighting some more.

I wonder lie, I also thought there was gonna be more. Giriko almost led me to thank that there was also more to Ichigo's fullbring.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Whatever it is you just ate, go lie down. It's warped your perception of reality.

It's true, but Bleach is in a better overall state than current Naruto chapters.

 

[Freshmaker]

I wonder lie, I also thought there was gonna be more. Giriko almost led me to thank that there was also more to Ichigo's fullbring.

Fullbring's just step 1. He's going to lose it once he gets his powers back.

It's true, but Bleach is in a better overall state than current Naruto chapters.

It's wrong. Absolutely nothing's happened in Naruto since Naruto met Sauce. Just a ton of worthless filler that's going nowhere.

 

[Squall ASF]

Aizen? Honestly, I thought he was Ishida until he started talking.

People whining about the pace should be thankful though. I thought that stuffed pig was going to get up and start fighting some more.


Whatever it is you just ate, go lie down. It's warped your perception of reality.

Are you serious? There's like ten times more going on in Naruto right now than Bleach. The large scale war broken down into seperate divisions, jumping between commanders and battles, personal relationships between combatants, new combatants of legend with unique skill sets/weapons, kabuto's hax management, etc. and that's without the main character even being in the picture. Now you can criticize what's there, if you don't care about the combatants they are currently displaying, etc. but that doesn't change the fact that WAY more is going on in Naruto than Bleach. The only thing Bleach has going for it is people wanting to see Ichigo get his powers back and if they will be around where his power level was at before losing them or if he'll be weaker with new powers, etc. I will say Fullbring was an interesting dynamic *at first* when it relied on people manipulating the souls of objects but then it turned into I just have random power x.

 

[Ninjimbo]

Bleach

It's kind of pathetic how slow Bleach is. I was enjoying this week's chapter and then it just ended. Oh well, at least we're not stuck reading bullshit battle after bullshit battle.

 

[Freshmaker]

Are you serious? There's like ten times more going on in Naruto right now than Bleach. The large scale war broken down into seperate divisions, jumping between commanders and battles, personal relationships between combatants, new combatants of legend with unique skill sets/weapons, kabuto's hax management, etc..

Filler. None of it means a damn thing and it's boring as hell.

 

[Stat Flow]

Oh, and anyone remember this? Another example of bringing subtle things back into the picture that may have just seemed random/unimportant at the time:

 

[Freshmaker]

Oh, and anyone remember this? Another example of bringing subtle things back into the picture that may have just seemed random/unimportant at the time:

I've been wanting to have that expanded upon for a long time. The badge looks like it has a "No hollow" symbol on it and Ishida recognized it.

 

[Ninjimbo]

It's nice to see Kubo attempt to flesh out his universe. At least it's something. Honestly, I kind of just want Rukia to come back into the story and stay there.

 

[Squall ASF]

Filler. None of it means a damn thing and it's boring as hell.

We're not talking about the content because that's opinion oriented (for instance, I disagree that it's boring filler) the issue being discussed is in how much is going on in the respective manga's. I don't think too many people are saying what's happening in Bleach is garbage, just that the pace is garbage. Naruto for instance, is dictated by whether or not you're interested in what's happening. If you enjoy the battles, the chapter is fulfilling and only seems to be dragging if you don't care for the characters involved. So it's all relative. Bleach on the other hand, is deemed to be going slow by people that are 'enjoying' what's happening. It's not that it's dull, it's just going at a snail pace. the chapters are read in all of 10 seconds. It's ridiculous.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Are you serious? There's like ten times more going on in Naruto right now than Bleach. The large scale war broken down into seperate divisions, jumping between commanders and battles, personal relationships between combatants, new combatants of legend with unique skill sets/weapons, kabuto's hax management, etc. and that's without the main character even being in the picture. Now you can criticize what's there, if you don't care about the combatants they are currently displaying, etc. but that doesn't change the fact that WAY more is going on in Naruto than Bleach.

Eh, the current Naruto reads like fan fiction tbh. That's worse than a slow moving plot that's actually fresh.

We're not talking about the content because that's opinion oriented (for instance, I disagree that it's boring filler) the issue being discussed is in how much is going on in the respective manga's. I don't think too many people are saying what's happening in Bleach is garbage, just that the pace is garbage. Naruto for instance, is dictated by whether or not you're interested in what's happening. If you enjoy the battles, the chapter is fulfilling and only seems to be dragging if you don't care for the characters involved.

It's definitely more than just that.

 

[VGChampion]

One Piece

I think I actually really like Hodi and Decken. Hodi's appearance grew on me and working together they both seem pretty cool. I wouldn't mind not having an all powerful "boss" they have to defeat this arc. I'm just really enjoying the story right now. I like seeing these post-Battle scenes with the Zoro crew.

One thing I'm wondering is, I wonder if Oda will keep his death count in the series low. I was thinking it would be interesting if the Mermaid Princess went down but then I realized, I don't want deaths every arc just because of the whole Ace cherry popping.

So yeah, Fishman Arc has been well worth the wait, especially since I wasn't looking forward to it. Now if we can just see Caribou again. Once he became a joke, I liked him much better.

And one side track. We never found out what Buggy got in his letter did we? I think I may have asked this before but I probably forgot to look at the replies.

 

[Wiseblade]

One Piece
Good chapter. Looks like Der Decken is going to have an introductory scuffle with Luffy earlier than I expected.

 

[Steroyd]

We're not talking about the content because that's opinion oriented (for instance, I disagree that it's boring filler) the issue being discussed is in how much is going on in the respective manga's. I don't think too many people are saying what's happening in Bleach is garbage, just that the pace is garbage. Naruto for instance, is dictated by whether or not you're interested in what's happening. If you enjoy the battles, the chapter is fulfilling and only seems to be dragging if you don't care for the characters involved. So it's all relative. Bleach on the other hand, is deemed to be going slow by people that are 'enjoying' what's happening. It's not that it's dull, it's just going at a snail pace. the chapters are read in all of 10 seconds. It's ridiculous.

In Naruto story progression has taken a complete standstill while Bleach takes many chapters to move the story from step 1 to step 1.5.

And one side track. We never found out what Buggy got in his letter did we? I think I may have asked this before but I probably forgot to look at the replies.

It was from the government, after the timeskip we find out he's now a shichibukai (right?), if I just made that up that can be the only reason why they would contact him, they dug up his past with relation to Shanks and Gold Roger so they can use him just for that in namesake.

 

[Yoboman]

One Piece
Good chapter. Looks like Der Decken is going to have an introductory scuffle with Luffy earlier than I expected.

Expect an introductory ass kicking lol

Then Decken will go back to Hodi and beg him not to fight Luffy

 

[Jexemad]

He's not Byakuya 3?

Byakuya doesn't smirk.