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[LivingD3AD]

The result is INSANE and on par with the best (flagship) Nvidia graphics cards.
For instance take a look at RayTracing implementation on Watch Dogs Legion, another OpenWorld title maxed out on RTX 2080 Ti:

 

[Classicrockfan]

Does this game freeze or crash as much as miles morales?

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Did you just say on par with the best Nvidia gpu's?! Fucking LOL! It looks good, but nothing like the best or even good raytracing on PC. Let's not get carried away here .

 

[diffusionx]

can ray tracing handle the accurate reflections of the hobo trash shopping carts and feces?

 

[Max_Po]

Does this game freeze or crash as much as miles morales?

What da fuck does has to do with ray tracing ? Fucking Karens like you come to every thread with negativity..

Yes I had 3 hard freezes where I had to yank the cord out of ps5

 

[Max_Po]

can ray tracing handle the accurate reflections of the hobo trash shopping carts and feces?

No but we may have to check those cum shots on the floor

 

[Spokker]

The ray tracing in Spider-Man on PS5 makes New York come alive. In fact, you can even see the reflections of the youth about to play the knockout game on the back of your head.

 

[Classicrockfan]

I hope it doesn’t crash or freeze ive yet to use the voucher that came with the deluxe version of miles morales.

 

[Classicrockfan]

What da fuck does has to do with ray tracing ? Fucking Karens like you come to every thread with negativity..

Yes I had 3 hard freezes where I had to yank the cord out of ps5

Good.

 

[LivingD3AD]

Did you just say on par with the best Nvidia gpu's?! Fucking LOL! It looks good, but nothing like the best or even good raytracing on PC. Let's not get carried away here .

I made an instance for PC master races like you bro. Take a look at Watch Dogs Legion maxet out RayTracing on RTX 2080 Ti above!
I can’t remember any other PC games have had better RayTracing implementation during GAMEPLAY compared to SpiderMan on PS5!

 

[CartoonsNCereal]

as a 3070 owner....

I'd rather that they filled those streets with pedestrians and made the traffic feel like real new york....

I wish they prioritized the processing power for that...

imagine that times square....filled with people...need to use AC: unity's crowd tech

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

I can’t remember any other PC games have had better RayTracing implementation during GAMEPLAY compared to SpiderMan on PS5!

There are several resolutions for that.

Take off the rose tinted glasses, actually take a look at several superior implementations of raytracing on PC that includes not only reflections, but GI, shadows, etc. This has been discussed and disproven so many times. People need to face reality and stop saying it's on par or even close to PC raytracing. Again, I'm not saying it's bad or anything, I'm just saying "on par" with PC raytracing, is "on par" with borderline delusional.

These threads are annoying for those who have seen several implementations over the years. Enjoy what you have, but don't try and compare to pc, as it falls short. Again it's not bad, but it's far from the best.

 

[Ghekkus]

When I did the side mission to find the black cat, once he's in bookbag the reflection shows the orange cat. Game ruined.

Just kidding(about game ruined), it looks great.

 

[Shakka43]

Does this game freeze or crash as much as miles morales?

What da fuck does has to do with ray tracing ? Fucking Karens like you come to every thread with negativity..

Yes I had 3 hard freezes where I had to yank the cord out of ps5

 

[sinnergy]

Now : Ray tracing is a game changer
before : it’s a waste of resources , use it for better rasterization

 

[THEAP99]

I really hope they add a 1080p 60 ray tracing mode

 

[farmerboy]

There are several resolutions for that.

Take off the rose tinted glasses, actually take a look at several superior implementations of raytracing on PC that includes not only reflections, but GI, shadows, etc. This has been discussed and disproven so many times. People need to face reality and stop saying it's on par or even close to PC raytracing. Again, I'm not saying it's bad or anything, I'm just saying "on par" with PC raytracing, is "on par" with borderline delusional.

These threads are annoying for those who have seen several implementations over the years. Enjoy what you have, but don't try and compare to pc, as it falls short. Again it's not bad, but it's far from the best.

Honestly, don't be such a elitist.

On my couch ,from 8 ft away, comparing the examples in OP, in motion, I think it's fair to say that the results are on par.

That's a perfectly reasonable thing to say. Not sure why your e-penis would shrink at the thought.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Honestly, don't be such a elitist.

On my couch ,from 8 ft away, comparing the examples in OP, in motion, I think it's fair to say that the results are on par.

That's a perfectly reasonable thing to say. Not sure why your e-penis would shrink at the thought.

Seems like your e-penis went from smoll, to inverted from my post. I never said it was shit, bad, or ugly. No need to get upset. Its just not "on par" with PC. Not sure why that is so hard to fathom/swallow. You can have a fast car, but compared to a faster car, it's not going to win in a race, but that doesn't mean it's a shit car. Do you understand what that means?

 

[xellos2099alpha]

the 4k mode does look nice but play like shit compare to 60 fpd mode

 

[Boss Mog]

Did you just say on par with the best Nvidia gpu's?! Fucking LOL! It looks good, but nothing like the best or even good raytracing on PC. Let's not get carried away here .

It's not like a rendering engineer at Epic said he was very impressed with Spider-man's raytracing and said raytracing on PC is being held back by middleware. Oh wait...

Rendering Engineer at EpicGames: DirectX RayTracing and Vulkan Optix holds everything back in PC land

www.neogaf.com

 

[phil_t98]

why is the floor wet on the 5th picture down when the picture is indoors?

still very impressive

 

[regawdless]

Came into this thread, agreeing with the thread title..... On consoles. OP goes straight at PC master race.

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about.
WD Legion is Miles ahead in raytracing reflections. Control also has better reflections AND raytraced shadows that make a huge difference. Hell, Quake 2 RTX has even raytraced lighting and overall the best raytracing so far for me.

WD Legion of PC.

 

[LivingD3AD]

There are several resolutions for that.

Take off the rose tinted glasses, actually take a look at several superior implementations of raytracing on PC that includes not only reflections, but GI, shadows, etc. This has been discussed and disproven so many times. People need to face reality and stop saying it's on par or even close to PC raytracing. Again, I'm not saying it's bad or anything, I'm just saying "on par" with PC raytracing, is "on par" with borderline delusional.

These threads are annoying for those who have seen several implementations over the years. Enjoy what you have, but don't try and compare to pc, as it falls short. Again it's not bad, but it's far from the best.

I didn’t say it’s the best, i said it’s on par with besties! And that’s absolute right bro.

 

[wachie]

Now : Ray tracing is a game changer
before : it’s a waste of resources , us it for better rasterization

I think the point went over your head. It's not about "lets crank up the RT to bring any GPU down to it's knees" but rather an RT implementation that makes the performance hit worthwhile.

 

[farmerboy]

Seems like your e-penis went from smoll, to inverted from my post. I never said it was shit, bad, or ugly. No need to get upset. Its just not "on par" with PC. Not sure why that is so hard to fathom/swallow. You can have a fast car, but compared to a faster car, it's not going to win in a race, but that doesn't mean it's a shit car. Do you understand what that means?

Hey, OP never said pc example was "shit, bad or ugly". No need for you to get upset.

 

[LivingD3AD]

Came into this thread, agreeing with the thread title..... On consoles. OP goes straight at PC master race.

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about.
WD Legion is Miles ahead in raytracing reflections. Control also has better reflections AND raytraced shadows that make a huge difference. Hell, Quake 2 RTX has even raytraced lighting and overall the best raytracing so far for me.

WD Legion of PC.

Does that pic look even better than this?!

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

Did you just say on par with the best Nvidia gpu's?! Fucking LOL! It looks good, but nothing like the best or even good raytracing on PC. Let's not get carried away here .

Nothing like a set of photos to back up your argument!?!???

 

[existensmaximum]

Did you just say on par with the best Nvidia gpu's?! Fucking LOL! It looks good, but nothing like the best or even good raytracing on PC. Let's not get carried away here .

So, what is the best and most impressive implementation of RT according to you? I'd love to try it and compare (got an RTX 3080) because so far I haven't seen anything on PC that looks as impressive as the two Spider-Man games on PS5.

I'm not trolling or trying to start a fight, I really want to know and compare

And please don't say Metro Exodus, because that game looks like hot garbage.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

It's not like a rendering engineer at Epic said he was very impressed with Spider-man's raytracing and said raytracing on PC is being held back by middleware. Oh wait...

Rendering Engineer at EpicGames: DirectX RayTracing and Vulkan Optix holds everything back in PC land

www.neogaf.com

Have you read the thread yourself? You'll notice a trend in that thread. You can't make specific low level api's for PC, because of the multitudes of configurations. So that rant has no basis. I could wish that humans could fly, but since we don't have wings, my wish is invalid. You need to optimize consoles to do certain things. On PC, you have the hardware and power to do those things without much optimization needed. Maybe actually read the thread before going in defense mode next time?

Hey, OP never said pc example was "shit, bad or ugly". No need for you to get upset.

OP said on par with not mid tier GPU's, not with high end AMD gpu's, but high end NVIDIA gpu's, which are the cream of the crop in raytracing. Anyone who isn't biased, wouldn't get upset about me calling this fallacy out, unless you're an exception?

 

[megreotsugua]

PS5 is a beast, besting even top of the line PCs in raytracing.

 

[RPSleon]

Yeah, its really good, and unexpected. Im happy that weve got consoles that can do this, especially as I dont own a powerful pc.

Buuut its not on par with what a pc can currently do. It doesnt have the complexity and subtlety of ray tracing in a game like control.

 

[regawdless]

Does that pic look even better than this?!

I'll quote an older post from a similar discussion I had regarding this exact topic:

Trees and geometry are rather detailed in the reflections:

And here you can see the building itself (where the posters are) having very good detailed reflections on a rough surface, which is expensive to render.

Water from fountains for example is also being reflected on the highest settings which you won't see in Spider-Man - whatever that's worth. Again, Spidey looks amazing and the reflections are well done, the trade-offs are very well chosen. WD L also has trade-offs of course, just fewer.

Edit: quick addition, if you look at the reflections, Spidey has a significantly lower resolution for them.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Spider-Man looks great. I remember John from DF saying last year we can expect RT reflections and maybe shadows on consoles. Alex from DF had said that consoles should be about 2060S level for RT. Both seem to be accurate so far, and we're off to a good start. Shoot for 1440p(reconstructed to 4K) and you could squeeze in shadows and maybe a little higher quality reflections.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Yeah, its really good, and unexpected. Im happy that weve got consoles that can do this, especially as I dont own a powerful pc.

Buuut its not on par with what a pc can currently do. It doesnt have the complexity and subtlety of ray tracing in a game like control.

I'll quote an older post from a similar discussion I had regarding this exact topic:

This is why I hate threads like this. Even a multiplatforms game can look better, and have a more realistic implementation. But of course, hardcore warriors can't just enjoy their stuff, but CONSTANTLY try and pick at PC gamers.

PS5 is a beast, besting even top of the line PCs in raytracing.

Lmfaaaaao, ok warrior

 

[Bittermich]

You really shouldn’t use photo mode screenshots. The ingame screenshots don’t look that good. They look ok.

 

[regawdless]

This is why I hate threads like this. Even a multiplatforms game can look better, and have a more realistic implementation. But of course, hardcore warriors can't just enjoy their stuff, but CONSTANTLY try and pick at PC gamers.



Lmfaaaaao, ok warrior

This. I don't see the point. Spider-Man does a great job for the hardware at hand. No need to try to compare it to expensive as hell PCs.

If you look at rough surfaces for example, there are no raytraced reflections in Spider-Man that are comparable to WD Legion on PC maxed, foliage is way simpler in Spideys reflections while WD L does it significantly more detailed etc.

Great avatar btw.

 

[Rikkori]

Delusional Sony fanboys at it again, comparing an actual interactive sprawling open world like Watch Dogs to the cardboard cutout that's spider-man NYC. GTFO!

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

This is why I hate threads like this. Even a multiplatforms game can look better, and have a more realistic implementation. But of course, hardcore warriors can't just enjoy their stuff, but CONSTANTLY try and pick at PC gamers.

 

[LivingD3AD]

You really shouldn’t use photo mode screenshots. The ingame screenshots don’t look that good. They look ok.

All gameplay shots;

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

This. I don't see the point. Spider-Man does a great job for the hardware at hand. No need to try to compare it to expensive as hell PCs.

If you look at rough surfaces for example, there are no raytraced reflections in Spider-Man that are comparable to WD Legion on PC maxed, foliage is way simpler in Spideys reflections while WD L does it significantly more detailed etc.

That's one thing I am disgusted with Sony fanboys vs xbox fanboys. You really never see Xbox guys trying to flex their muscles against PC, even back from the x1x and ps4 pro days. They understand hardware differences, something some of these other warriors just don't comprehend.

Everyone should enjoy their games, but the moment you try and call out the superior hardware, is when you can't run and hide behind exclusives anymore, cause even they will be beaten by multiplatforms.

Great avatar btw.

Wait till you see my next one, I'll update eventually.

 

[xacto]

Honestly, don't be such a elitist.

On my couch ,from 8 ft away, comparing the examples in OP, in motion, I think it's fair to say that the results are on par.

That's a perfectly reasonable thing to say. Not sure why your e-penis would shrink at the thought.

Insecure over his PC parts.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Ironically, raytraced Control on the Switch looks better. Where's the Switch Power King thread?

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Incredible how the autism comes out when somebody dares to say ray tracing is good on consoles and even on par in many cases with the average PC gaming machine.

OP is completely right, the RT implemented in Spider Man is great. Sucks you can't play it on PC though....

 

[Bernd Lauert]

All gameplay shots;

The resolution of that reflection is something like 540p.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Insecure over his PC parts.

Who do you guys act like this? As if PC players are poor, and couldn't buy 2-3 ps5's spontaneously *if they wanted to*? The reason *I* play on PC is for the superior visuals and framerates, as well as superior raytracing. You won't get that on consoles. Take for instance cyberpunk, or literally any game that's released recently. Do you think we want to play at sub 4k, lower quality visuals, lower quality raytracing (or no raytracing, no next gen upgrade yet), abysmal framerates?! Hell fucking no. That's why we get the better hardware, duh.

 

[Caio]

It looks marvelous, indeed.

 

[regawdless]

All gameplay shots;

And in which ways should this be comparable or even superior to the WD Legion screens that I've posted?

Look at the trees, all the smaller branches are missing. Reflections have way lower resolution, just look at the second screen you posted and compare it to my screen of the bus.
In motion, the movement of NPCs is not updated 1:1 so their movement stutters to save resources.

And so on and so on.

As I've already said, Spiderman does a great job and looks great. But due to limited performance, they had to limit a lot of stuff compared to games that run on a freaking 700 bucks 3080 GPU. Which is obvious, duh.

This discussion is ridiculous.

 

[ZywyPL]

I really hope they add a 1080p 60 ray tracing mode

I'm curious why the 1440p60 mode already doesn't have RT? Technically it's half of the pixels=half of the rays, should be very likely doable.

 

[regawdless]

Incredible how the autism comes out when somebody dares to say ray tracing is good on consoles and even on par in many cases with the average PC gaming machine.

OP is completely right, the RT implemented in Spider Man is great. Sucks you can't play it on PC though....

That's not what happens. We all agree that it looks great and is well implemented. No beef here.
But OP says it has better raytracing than something like Watch Dogs Legion maxed on PC - which is objectively false because of all the points I've already mentioned here - and then posts fake bad screenshots for a comparison.... it's just not true.

And at no point did he mention an average gaming PC. He compared it to high-end max settings, which is beyond ridiculous.

I say it again, Spider-Man looks great and the trade offs are very well chosen. But WE Legion maxed on PC has way fewer trade offs and therefore way better raytracing.

Don't know what's so hard to understand here.

 

[HAL-01]

Delusional Sony fanboys at it again, comparing an actual interactive sprawling open world like Watch Dogs to the cardboard cutout that's spider-man NYC. GTFO!

Pc people will really come in here and pretend like watch dogs is a good looking game