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Can't wait til things calm down. Tatsunoko vs Capcom only had 26 characters and people are singing its praises. MvCI has 28, plus 6 from DLC and all of a sudden it's shite. Realistically, the ones proclaiming they aren't going to buy it now are being either reactive or never had intentions to buy the game.

Agreed but I'll say, let them not buy it then. Better off without that noise. I don't like some stuff I've read but I'm snagging that CE and can only hope Capcom does their best.

 

[NotLiquid]

Hype -1000.

I'm laughing (and crying) over here.

Seriously, guys, prepare yourself. The launch roster is a massive fucking disappointment.

Those 28 picks better be godlike.

Oh, they're not.

 

[Neoxon]

This isn't counting sigma since he's dlc correct?

Newcomers

X
Captain Marvel
Ultron
Ant-Man (probably)
Cool animations darkstalker
????
????

I'd imagine that one of the remaining 2 is a new Guardians of the Galaxy rep, given that we have 3 GotG variant covers.....unless they're DLC, too.

 

[BitStyle]

Can't wait til things calm down. Tatsunoko vs Capcom only had 26 characters and people are singing its praises. MvCI has 28, plus 6 from DLC and all of a sudden it's shite. Realistically, the ones proclaiming they aren't going to buy it now are being either reactive or never had intentions to buy the game.

My beef is with the roster being mostly returning characters and reused animations, while most of the other games had ample new characters.

 

[Jawmuncher]

I'd imagine that one of the remaining 2 is a new Guardians of the Galaxy rep, given that we have 3 GotG variant covers.....unless they're DLC, too.

With the lack of female characters, i'd hope it's Gamora then.

 

[PSqueak]

Can't wait til things calm down. Tatsunoko vs Capcom only had 26 characters and people are singing its praises. MvCI has 28, plus 6 from DLC and all of a sudden it's shite. Realistically, the ones proclaiming they aren't going to buy it now are being either reactive or never had intentions to buy the game.

TVC was the first one with 3d graphics and non recyclable assets, MVCI is coming after UMVC3 and has tons of recyclable assets they could use to inflate the roster.

Having that in mind, TVC had a decently sized roster.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

What I don't understand is that Ryce has been in the know about a lot of things since...well, the beginning. For all intents and purposes, he seemed pretty sure that the roster would be great.

Did something change in development that made this a huge disappointment? It seems odd that this suddenly became a thing that fast.

 

[Rynocirator]

Oh, they're not.

Not godlike? Asura deconfirmed.

 

[paolo11]

It would be best if they would delay the game and release it next year. Just add more characters then release it.

To be honest, I know who I'm going to use in this game (X and Ryu)so I'm ok but I really prefer more new characters.

 

[BadWolf]

My beef is with the roster being mostly returning characters and reused animations, while most of the other games had ample new characters.

Yup, this is the biggest bummer.

 

[Jawmuncher]

What I don't understand is that Ryce has been in the know about a lot of things since...well, the beginning. For all intents and purposes, he seemed pretty sure that the roster would be great.

Did something change in development that made this a huge disappointment? It seems odd that this suddenly became a thing that fast.

seems that this first season of characters are basically going to be newcomers who should've been in the base game.

 

[The Lone Dragon]

I'm talking about characters new to the series, like Captain Marvel and Ultron, not the actual roster count. There are only seven characters in this game who weren't playable in a previous entry. That's pathetic.

Tekken 7 only has 8 characters who weren't playable in previous games (not counting Master Raven who uses Raven animations)...and that game has been in development longer than MvCi.

Heck, T7 has been OUT for two years.

The rest of the cast is still sporting animations from 15+ years ago.

Is T7 also pathetic?

 

[Zero-ELEC]

Can't wait til things calm down. Tatsunoko vs Capcom only had 26 characters and people are singing its praises. MvCI has 28, plus 6 from DLC and all of a sudden it's shite. Realistically, the ones proclaiming they aren't going to buy it now are being either reactive or never had intentions to buy the game.

Of course they're reactive. Why wouldn't they be reactive? Would you have prefered people be proactive and had called the game shit from minute 1? What type of complain is this?

Also, I had every intention of buying the game. I fucking love the Versus series. I wasn't going to buy the edition with the statues and stuff. But I was there day 1. Knowing how disappointing the base roster is, I feel that waiting for "season 1" to finish before buying is fair.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

Only 4 newcomers?

I... I'll probably get T7 or IJ2 over this.

 

[sephi22]

Eat my dick Capcom.
Suck on my nuts Senor Rosas.

Fuck this company. I can't tell if Wwe or Capcom is more incompetent now. Both bent on killing my interests.

So glad I didn't get peer pressured into the $200 cashgrab edition

 

[enzo_gt]

Learned some new details over the weekend. I'm going to try to keep it vague and not confirm any characters specifically to avoid ending up on Eventhubs or whatever.

- 28 character launch roster, I know all of them but 1 for sure and I think I might know who the last one is.
- No Ace Attorney, Viewtiful Joe, Final Fight or Okami characters. No Ms. Marvel, no X-Men or F4 to speak of.
- Of the remaining cast there's one returning MvC2 character, nine characters coming back from 3 (ten if the last character is who I think it is) and only four more newcomers.
- I know of one DLC character besides Sigma and he's coming back from MvC2, not sure if he's scheduled for this year or next year.

There's definitely some cool surprises left but I get the impression most people are going to be disappointed.

Damn. I guess it's not long before the list leaks in full?

Dunno how I feel about 28 characters. It's good enough for 2v2 gameplay, but seems anemic especially when they've got so many assets to work from.

How small is this budget and why the fuck does Capcom refuse to invest in its IPs? How long do you have to fall before you realize you're on a slippery slope?

There's only one non-MCU Marvel character.

dead if this is Shuma, it's a port, and they spin it as fan service

I can't believe there's only one female character left to be revealed.

DR2K crine

no ms marvel man what

Relatively small roster or not, I tried to warn y'all.

 

[BassForever]

Only 4 newcomers?

I... I'll probably get T7 or IJ2 over this.

7 newcomers, 4 left to be revealed

 

[Ryce]

Tekken 7 only has 8 characters who weren't playable in previous games (not counting Master Raven who uses Raven animations)...and that game has been in development longer than MvCi.

Heck, T7 has been OUT for two years.

The rest of the cast is still sporting animations from 15+ years ago.

Is T7 also pathetic?

Apples and oranges.

MvC and Tekken are completely different series with completely different expectations. A big (perhaps the biggest) appeal of MvC is seeing new characters pulled from your favorite Capcom games and Marvel comics. MvC3 did incredibly well on this front.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

seems that this first season of characters are basically going to be newcomers who should've been in the base game.

It's fucking garbage.

Ryce or Saikyo, can you at least confirm if any of the returnees have been redesigned or not? I'm just talking about visuals alone.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Of course they're reactive. Why wouldn't they be reactive? Would you have prefered people be proactive and had called the game shit from minute 1? What type of complain is this?

Also, I had every intention of buying the game. I fucking love the Versus series. I wasn't going to buy the edition with the statues and stuff. But I was there day 1. Knowing how disappointing the base roster is, I feel that waiting for "season 1" to finish before buying is fair.

Yep, that's what i'll be waiting for now too if all of this pans out.

 

[JazzmanZ]

Apples and oranges.

MvC and Tekken are completely different series with completely different expectations. A big (perhaps the biggest) appeal of MvC is seeing new characters pulled from your favorite Capcom games and Marvel comics. MvC3 did incredibly well on this front.

I thought th appeal to MvC was how flashy it was

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

TvC had an extremely varied roster filled with newly modeled and animated newcomers and a lot of obscure characters. Not comparable at all.

True, but most of the reactions here are basically saying they'd rather no new game be made at all. That's the definition of hyperbolic. If there are gameplay problems, that would be a different story, but if the rest of the game meets or exceeds expectations and the character count is what makes or breaks your decision to get the game, I'd question how much of a fan you are of the game itself vs someone who buys a game because your favorite character is in it.

I'm more interested in damage and combos, or even if they updated and brightened the visuals since last reveal trailers. 28 characters on a 2-person team is plenty, and only Street Fighter x Tekken comes to mind for fighters that had 2 person teams and more characters than that, especially at launch.

 

[SaikyoBro]

What I don't understand is that Ryce has been in the know about a lot of things since...well, the beginning. For all intents and purposes, he seemed pretty sure that the roster would be great.

Did something change in development that made this a huge disappointment? It seems odd that this suddenly became a thing that fast.

From my perspective, things seemed that way because we got a lot of good info upfront from PSX. F4/X-Men not in the base game but at least they're DLC, Spencer being leaked seemed like a good sign for other Capcom veterans, and, well, they finally had Mega Man.

I don't think anyone's excitement was ever necessarily for the base roster, more that the fact the game existed and had potential to become huge with actual DLC support this time.

 

[kirblar]

From my perspective, things seemed that way because we got a lot of good info upfront from PSX. F4/X-Men not in the base game but at least they're DLC, Spencer being leaked seemed like a good sign for other Capcom veterans, and, well, they finally had Mega Man.

I don't think anyone's excitement was ever necessarily for the base roster, more that the fact the game existed and had potential to become huge with actual DLC support this time.

Have you heard anything about the S2 roster size?

 

[enzo_gt]

IIRC MvC2 and MvC3 both had around 1/3 of the characters as being new to the franchise. With MvC:I, it's closer to a quarter. Might have been slightly higher for MvC2 depending on how you define "new."

 

[Gorilla Blade]

Yeah gonna have to step back from all this shit. As things stand now? Rapidly losing interest.

 

[Waddle Dee]

Damn, what a time to check out the thread.

No Viewtiful Joe or Ammy? I can't say I enjoyed playing as them but I loved that they were in regardless. Not having Joe or Ammy in really takes away from the roster diversity too since they had very unique character designs.

This still isn't looking as bad as SFV but this is really disappointing nonetheless. I probably shouldn't have expected better from Capcom. It's astonishing how little they've learned over the years.

I do wonder why Marvel is seemingly okay with this, though. They made a big deal back when the PS4 Spider-Man game was shown off that they were putting a big emphasis on making actual quality products in the future but this isn't looking like it'll match up with that statement.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

From my perspective, things seemed that way because we got a lot of good info upfront from PSX. F4/X-Men not in the base game but at least they're DLC, Spencer being leaked seemed like a good sign for other Capcom veterans, and, well, they finally had Mega Man.

I don't think anyone's excitement was ever necessarily for the base roster, more that the fact the game existed and had potential to become huge with actual DLC support this time.

Makes sense. I just don't know why Capcom continues to make things harder than they need to be. Do they seriously not see backlash from releasing the game like this? It's almost as if they're in a different world at times.

Can you confirm if any of the returning characters at least look different?

 

[kirblar]

Damn, what a time to check out the thread.

No Viewtiful Joe or Ammy? I can't say I enjoyed playing as them but I loved that they were in regardless. Not having Joe or Ammy in really takes away from the roster diversity too since they had very unique character designs.

This still isn't looking as bad as SFV but this is really disappointing nonetheless. I probably shouldn't have expected better from Capcom. It's astonishing how little they've learned over the years.

I do wonder why Marvel is seemingly okay with this, though. They made a big deal back when the PS4 Spider-Man game was shown off that they were putting a big emphasis on making actual quality products in the future but this isn't looking like it'll match up with that statement.

Small characters are going to be rough to get into this game because it's proportioned much more similarly to SFV or Marvel Super Heroes. The screen isn't stretching as much as it did in 2/3.

 

[MiguelMexMIstery]

Learned some new details over the weekend. I'm going to try to keep it vague and not confirm any characters specifically to avoid ending up on Eventhubs or whatever.

- 28 character launch roster, I know all of them but 1 for sure and I think I might know who the last one is.
- No Ace Attorney, Viewtiful Joe, Final Fight or Okami characters. No Ms. Marvel, no X-Men or F4 to speak of.
- Of the remaining cast there's one returning MvC2 character, nine characters coming back from 3 (ten if the last character is who I think it is) and only four more newcomers.
- I know of one DLC character besides Sigma and he's coming back from MvC2, not sure if he's scheduled for this year or next year.

There's definitely some cool surprises left but I get the impression most people are going to be disappointed.

Laaaaaaaaaame Looks like no Demitri either. Only hope I have left is that Captain Commando is one of the returning characters...

 

[The God]

has Ryce or anybody else said what to expect single player wise?

 

[Son Of Sparda]

7 newcomers, 4 left to be revealed

I know, I meant 4 newcomers left to be revealed. I was really hoping to see a lot of newcomers from Capcom side so I'm certain that I'll be disappointed with the roster.

 

[7Th]

Well, Venom should be pretty much confirmed due to the new Marvel comics event:

 

[Giga Man]

28 characters...

Do they want this game to fail?

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Friendship ended with Capcom. Now Netherrealm is my friend.

 

[ZSeba]

Learned some new details over the weekend. I'm going to try to keep it vague and not confirm any characters specifically to avoid ending up on Eventhubs or whatever.

- 28 character launch roster, I know all of them but 1 for sure and I think I might know who the last one is.
- No Ace Attorney, Viewtiful Joe, Final Fight or Okami characters. No Ms. Marvel, no X-Men or F4 to speak of.
- Of the remaining cast there's one returning MvC2 character, nine characters coming back from 3 (ten if the last character is who I think it is) and only four more newcomers.
- I know of one DLC character besides Sigma and he's coming back from MvC2, not sure if he's scheduled for this year or next year.

There's definitely some cool surprises left but I get the impression most people are going to be disappointed.

No Ms. Marvel ?

SAD

 

[SaikyoBro]

Makes sense. I just don't know why Capcom continues to make things harder than they need to be. Do they seriously not see backlash from releasing the game like this? It's almost as if they're in a different world at times.

Can you confirm if any of the returning characters at least look different?

I haven't seen seen any of their in-game appearances so no. I will say the pattern of old characters getting new moves continues though, there's a Capcom character getting a new tool that sounds like it's going to help him out a lot.

 

[Lulubop]

28 characters...

Do they want this game to fail?

yes

 

[Doctrine Dark]

I have a strong feeling the DLC character Saikyo is talking about is Thanos.

 

[Zero-ELEC]

Tekken 7 only has 8 characters who weren't playable in previous games (not counting Master Raven who uses Raven animations)...and that game has been in development longer than MvCi.

Heck, T7 has been OUT for two years.

The rest of the cast is still sporting animations from 15+ years ago.

Is T7 also pathetic?

Does T7 look like a budget title compared to its contemporaries? Does T7 have a worse F:M character ratio than any other game in its series? Does T7 seem like it was made for quick turnover?

Also different kind of fighters have different priorities.

True, but most of the reactions here are basically saying they'd rather no new game be made at all. That's the definition of hyperbolic. If there are gameplay problems, that would be a different story, but if the rest of the game meets or exceeds expectations and the character count is what makes or breaks your decision to get the game, I'd question how much of a fan you are of the game itself vs someone who buys a game because your favorite character is in it.

Noones saying that. You're the one peddling hyperbole here. Most people here are saying that a crossover fighter who's initial appeal is the roster of fighters is lacking in that department, they could have perhaps delayed the game till more characters were ready, and the roster wasn't so anaemic and a sausagefest.

Also, nice "True Fan" argument, basically saying that if you play a fighting game casually you're not a "real fan". A "real" fan wouldn't care about characters, right?

A "fan" isn't lesser for caring about characters over gameplay. Get over yourself.

 

[Professor Beef]

28 characters...

Do they want this game to fail?

Yes, that's exactly why they're developing a game with the Marvel licence. They want it to fail. Congrats, you cracked the code.

 

[Lulubop]

I can't wait to see Lone Dragon doing PR for this game post release.

JK.

Yes, that's exactly why they're developing a game with the Marvel licence. They want it to fail. Congrats, you cracked the code.

Well they're definitely not gonna succeed.

 

[Neoxon]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the remaining newcomers was leaked under our noses. Like, way back when the game was first revealed.

 

[Doctrine Dark]

I haven't seen seen any of their in-game appearances so no. I will say the pattern of old characters getting new moves continues though, there's a Capcom character getting a new tool that sounds like it's going to help him out a lot.

Thanks, Saikyo.

I have no idea what to think about this game anymore.

I'll still play it because it's Marvel, but I'm really disappointed with the choices. I'm hoping they delay it.

 

[Professor Beef]

Well they're definitely not gonna succeed.

You sure about that?

I'll still play it because it's Marvel.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

The number of characters is what I expected. It's a little more than TvC, the last vs game that was 2v2.

 

[enzo_gt]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the remaining newcomers was leaked under our noses. Like, way back when the game was first revealed.

If I wasn't on my phone ATM, I'd be cross-referencing older leaks. Although, at this point it seems most were fan fiction (to be expected).

 

[Lulubop]

You sure about that?

Yes

You think that matters when IJ2 is 1v1 with more characters? Ok, the niche VS series fans can look past it, congrats on your 10k sales. additionally it'll have less SP content than it's peers, additionally it looks like shit, additionally the returning characters have a ton of reused assets. Do you not see how the lack of shit hurt SFV? Capcom doesn't have the benefit of the doubt anymore, the have no good will press and public are going to obliterate MVCI if this is true.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the remaining newcomers was leaked under our noses. Like, way back when the game was first revealed.

What was leaked under our noses?

 

[CountBlack]

Ok really, last tidbit this time - Black Panther isn't in the base game.

Considering the variant cover stuff I guess it's a safe bet that he's already planned for DLC.

im out