As stated before I would make a list of the mechanics in the game and put them in one place. Well here it is:
Summary of Mechanics in Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite
Summary of Mechanics in Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite
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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
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Karsticles
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I don't see how Stalking Flare will be better than most pinning hypers. Though here is a question worth pondering - can you do this?:
1) Stalking Flare
2) Tag into Trish (let's just pretend)
3) Round Harvest
4) Tag into Dormammu
5) Stalking Flare
Etc.
Remember... Stalking Flare goes away when Dormammu gets hit... but it doesn't go away when the assist character is hit.
The same concept applies to Rocket and his traps. He can lay down a full set of traps on the ground and tag out, the traps will not dissipate if the new character is hit.
That's the type of thing that makes something like Stalking Flare strong. You do it and tag, your new character is free to do whatever because the Stalking Flare will cover them even if they get hit.
The same concept applies to Rocket and his traps. He can lay down a full set of traps on the ground and tag out, the traps will not dissipate if the new character is hit.
That's the type of thing that makes something like Stalking Flare strong. You do it and tag, your new character is free to do whatever because the Stalking Flare will cover them even if they get hit.
Karsticles
Member
Yeah, but I'm saying that it isn't very different from something like Shinkuu Hadoken x tag.
sweet, thanks for this
6 more characters and still only two women on each side. 🤔
BassForever
Member
Still more playable females in this then there are female lead films in the mcu and dccu combined.
Jawmuncher
Member
Might be true, but at least Injustice 2 didn't succumb to that
Pieman0920
Member
With the heavy MCU focus, the Marvel side probably wouldn't really have had many other viable female fighters that were also interesting. Hela is the best I think they could have done really, since I don't think Black Widow really adds much.
Its the Capcom side where its weird there aren't more women. Even if they just ported over from UMvC3, they could have done it. Still maybe, just maybe, there's a secret fifth female fighter in the form of the Monster Hunter.
Its the Capcom side where its weird there aren't more women. Even if they just ported over from UMvC3, they could have done it. Still maybe, just maybe, there's a secret fifth female fighter in the form of the Monster Hunter.
Jawmuncher
Member
I really hope MH is a female. I mean it ain't much, but it definitely better than nothing.
BassForever
Member
Black Widow could have taken Jill's mvc3 moveset with slight modification and I doubt people would be upset. Would also open the door for an mvci jill as dlc to get her mvc2 moveset back.
Too bad most devs aren't samurai, cause he'd make mh both male and female player choice.
Black Widow could have easily been a repurposed Jill, I would think. Scarlet Witch IS MCU, right? She is pretty much Deus Ex Machina, so she could be whatever style they needed. Nebula is an obvious option that nobody brings up.
EDIT: beaten to the Jill observation, whilst I sought about for a fourth.
Jawmuncher
Member
Still curious how MH will work in the story. Since it means we'll have an actual talking in English MH. Which was part of the reason MVC3 said no. Guess they got lenient and probably said "Fuck it, this'll help world in the west"
lets hope we get The Wasp & Valkyrie as DLC
BassForever
Member
World probably already has the lead talking in story scenes so since they are pushing for a western focus.
I wonder if the lack of viable female mcu characters is the reason for a low number of female capcom characters for the sake of "roster parity". As others have said when you go mcu only no fox
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Jawmuncher
Member
I do think there has to be some sort of parity thing going on for the female characters. "Don't make us look bad, you can only have as much as as do". All depends on MH at this point.
I think it's just Hawkeye's "power" of making highly accurate shots represented by an in-game mechanic.
It would seem to imply a "Crit".
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yup, I meant Phoenix Wright, Wesker, Vergil and Akuma could have be part of the roster but yet they didn't.
If it's plausible since I don't really see anything wrong with that.
It's bizarre that they didn't even bother to port She-Hulk since she's still part of Marvel World and not under any Fox Ban. And there are many good choices that they could draw from Capcom World.
Scarlet Witch is banned via under Fox Ban despite that she made her appearance in MCU.
It's bullshit. I still can't believe they had people look at this list and gave it the OK. Out of the possible 34 characters only 12% of them are women. 4/34. How. Is. That. Okay?
Call me petty but part of me hopes this bombs. Their greed in trying to make bank off their MCU characters is killing the appeal that made Marvel, Marvel.
Funny how DC didn't give a shit about that and listened to what the fans wanted.
this is 30 pages late, but aren't these screens still from a 3 month outdated build (since that's what VS is)? that's what I mean
A critter is steering the arrow? Could be Ant-Man.
Turbanator
Member
I'm actually somewhat upset that Natasha is gone. I started watching the MCU a few weeks ago (you can say MvCI did its job there) and I fell in love with ScarJo's Widow in Ironman 2. She could make a great stance character between hand-to-hand acrobatics (combine Jill, X23, and SFxT's Nina) and her cool ass taser sticks from Age of Ultron.
Also when tf is that solo Widow movie? Anything to get more ScarJo action (as long as they don't try to "humanize" the character like they tried and failed to do in Winter Soldier).
Also when tf is that solo Widow movie? Anything to get more ScarJo action (as long as they don't try to "humanize" the character like they tried and failed to do in Winter Soldier).
Widow was fine in Winter Soldier, but in Avengers 2? Nah.... that whole love story with Hulk was cringe worthy.
They could make Widow work with command dashes/throws, grappling hooks, taser wrists to power up her attacks and weird spy gadgets all around. Less focus on her guns because we already have a few gun characters in the game.
They could make Widow work with command dashes/throws, grappling hooks, taser wrists to power up her attacks and weird spy gadgets all around. Less focus on her guns because we already have a few gun characters in the game.
TRUE ORDER
Member
I wouldn't mind if they added Black Widow with some of Jill moves from 3 (if she returns, I want the STARS moveset from 2 or an updated version)
You made me remember that something like this happened... yep, cringe worthy.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Critical Damage, and Ant-Man was removed from level 3 so I doubt that it's Ant-Man.
Ntasha is gone? I don't think her chance is gone yet.
Being a bit facetious mate. Just a bit nonplussed as the question was about if Gimlet was a thing in the comics and I haven't read many issues where Clint goes on about crits or whatever.
Turbanator
Member
She's a basic/staple-style character. If she were in the launch roster, we'd have known since April.
She has a chance as DLC, but I think it's a bit late for her as a launch character.
More than just a bit. Not that I'll bite.
But Gimlet would imply crit to me, in that by definition, it is a boring/screw pierce meant to evoke thoughts of armor shredding.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Thanks for the clarification since you worded it as if she wouldn't have any shot at making into the roster. The launch roster announcements aren't over yet but the chance is pretty slim tho.
TRUE ORDER
Member
Just could play the demo, I liked how the gameplay felt (Marvel) and the models don't look that bad, though some animations like Chris's walk are really weird...
Two taps down to do a Shoryuken move feels more complicated for me than how it really should be lol
Two taps down to do a Shoryuken move feels more complicated for me than how it really should be lol
"God's Beard!"
Member
Does Morrigan still have the meter stealing fireball
More than just a bit. Not that I'll bite.
But Gimlet would imply crit to me, in that by definition, it is a boring/screw pierce meant to evoke thoughts of armor shredding.
Additionally, gimlet-eyed indicates someone with keen eyes that miss nothing. Like, say, someone who claims to have the eyes of a hawk.
Seems it works on multiple levels, but the the fact that it auto tracks seems more notable to me than its critical damage which is pretty mediocre.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";241782900]Does Morrigan still have the meter stealing fireball[/QUOTE]
I would guess that it's highly unlikely but I could be wrong.
I would guess that it's highly unlikely but I could be wrong.
christiankid7
Member
What would qualify a MCU female as viable ?
lucebuce12
Member
- Scarlet Witch
- Valkyrie
DR2K
Banned
Black Widow. Using some of Jill's UMVC3 animations. I'm hearing originally Jill was supposed to be Black Widow, but she got cut. Would be interesting if they went back to their original idea.
I think the main reason there are so few women is that they want to elevate Captain Marvel and more interesting women would dilute that.
christiankid7
Member
I mean is it popularity, recognizability, moveset potential?
I've never heard that before, and it's incredibly unlikely, considering 90% of Jill's MvC3 attacks come from her RE5 boss battle and Mercenaries mode. I'm pretty sure this is the only thing that anyone from Capcom has ever said about Black Widow:
Jill only uses guns in one of her hyper combos, so I don't think she took Black Widow's "spot."Ryota Niitsuma said:
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I don't know. I would rather them to take a look into library of Marvel Women since there are many good characters to draw from. That's why I'm very disappointed with them being keen to include too many characters from MCU.
Take a look at this.
christiankid7
Member
I mean, I could come up with 28 female characters from the MCU (not literally based on their MCU counterparts, mind you) with moveset potential and could be recognizable but what would make them viable?
At the very least, Quake and Wasp should be viable choices.
At the very least, Quake and Wasp should be viable choices.
Jawmuncher
Member
The fuck does viable even me. That's too vague.
So long as you're not digging the bottom of the barrel I think you're fine with female roster picks.
So long as you're not digging the bottom of the barrel I think you're fine with female roster picks.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's odd that you don't really think Medusa or Dagger not being viable? Wasp? I'm not sure about her since we might have Ant-Man. I figured that Wasp might be part of his level 3. I'm all for Quake tho. To be frank with you, I think we are going to have characters outside of MCU in Character Pass 2018 so it's likely that we would able to see the characters outside of MCU getting in.
I don't really care about some characters from MCU since most of them would be more likely to become bland and uninteresting characters depend on their abilities and powers. I meant we should have
Black Widow
Ms. Marvel (Kamala)
She-Hulk
Medusa
Cloak and Dagger
Scarlet Witch
Storm
Songbird (a director is interested to do Thunderbolt after GOTG so it's possibly they could include her in for future advisement)
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur ( I know it's extremely unlikely tho)
along with Gamora and Captain Marvel.
The problem is that the majority of the characters are being reused from UMVC3. The majority of the women on the Marvel side of that game are X-Men so that couldn't work. Then they didn't make that many new characters. That's why there are so few female characters on the Marvel sode.
I don't have an answer for She-Hulk though.
I don't have an answer for She-Hulk though.
Doctrine Dark
Member
Black Widow's another character most of us guaranteed would be in.
Marvel Studios mostly sees Black Widow as a major side character, hence why they gave the first female-led MCU film to Captain Marvel.
christiankid7
Member
I did say very least. I wasn't the one to come up with this viability so I'm confused what that actually means. I just listed two I think would make sense, people would recognize, and would play well.
others I didn't mention: Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, Slingshot, Debrii, Molly Hayes, Karolina Dean, Agent 13/Carter
- Quake Agents of Shield
- Medusa Inhumans
- Crystal Inhumans
- Black Widow Avengers
- Wasp Avengers
- Dagger Cloak and Dagger
- Valkyrie Thor
- Scarlet Witch Avengers
- Nico Minoru Runaways
- Squirrel Girl New Warriors
- Hela Thor
- Jessica Jones Defenders
- Nebula Guardians of the Galaxy
- Sif Thor
- Elektra Defenders
- Mockingbird Agents of Shield
others I didn't mention: Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, Slingshot, Debrii, Molly Hayes, Karolina Dean, Agent 13/Carter