I don't think this is true. The game seems to still have LVL3s alongside Stones, the damage output in this game is going to be too hefty for that system.
If it is true then SFxT2 here we come!
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Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite Story Trailer, Sep 17th, 8 reveals, 6 2017 DLC characters
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If it is true then SFxT2 here we come!
The pre-existing rumor is that there won't be any Fox characters until DLC (I.E. not in the base roster). The base roster was likely decided when the Marvel-Fox hate boner was fully erect.
It's inherently easier. Sf4 required a lot of lkab time to learn so many intricacies where there isn't any in sfv. Whether or not you think it's good or bad is one thing, but sfv is easier.
The less SF characters the better.
If Capcom REALLY wanted to make the controls easy to understand for casual players... they should just use every button on the controller.
Look at the controls for GTA5:
Seems pretty complex compared to a 4 button fighting game, right? Well, not really if you consider how well the game has sold.
If they want to get rid of complex inputs, they should stop thinking of the game like an arcade game that has to work on an arcade stick. Arcades are dead. These are not arcade games. They're console games and controllers have a shit load of inputs.
Face buttons can be standard LMHS. LB can be special move #1 (Hadoken). RB can be special move #2 (Shoryuken). Up on dpad can be special move #3 (hurricane kick). LT can be Super 1. RT can be Super 2.
What I'm trying to say is fighting games don't need to be built around 1 arcade stick + 6 buttons anymore. Standard controllers have a shit load of buttons and they should be used if they really want to lower the difficulty of inputting moves for casuals.
Look at the controls for GTA5:
Seems pretty complex compared to a 4 button fighting game, right? Well, not really if you consider how well the game has sold.
If they want to get rid of complex inputs, they should stop thinking of the game like an arcade game that has to work on an arcade stick. Arcades are dead. These are not arcade games. They're console games and controllers have a shit load of inputs.
Face buttons can be standard LMHS. LB can be special move #1 (Hadoken). RB can be special move #2 (Shoryuken). Up on dpad can be special move #3 (hurricane kick). LT can be Super 1. RT can be Super 2.
What I'm trying to say is fighting games don't need to be built around 1 arcade stick + 6 buttons anymore. Standard controllers have a shit load of buttons and they should be used if they really want to lower the difficulty of inputting moves for casuals.
Claw or Dictator?
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Having a couple like Vega that have never been in a Marvel VS game would be cool though. I could see Vega's vertical style meshing pretty well with the air combo heavy Marvel style.
Wolverine, Magneto and Doom HAVE to be in this game.
Not having those characters in a Marvel game would be freakin crazy.
christiankid7
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Man, I wanted another Leon to mention as a joke guess but the only one I can find is one of the DR2 bosses....
secretanchitman
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Yeah that is true. I guess we'll have to see how the gameplay is sometime this week. Hopefully a journalist is semi-knowledgeable with fighting games/FGC to let us know how casualized the controls are.
shaowebb
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Be still my memories of Iron Fist and Sentinel wave dashing all around the place. Both will probably never return to the series.
But we already have Ryu and Chun-Li in the game and you can bet there will be a new character from SFV represent, most likely Rashid...
But hey you can still play Vega in SFV.
Jawmuncher
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I'll take your word for it then.
Hopefully soon. The fact I have at least been getting people on board and informing them of Dino Crisis is a reward all it's own.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
why is it so hard to do qcf? I don't think I have any problem with that on the pad.
... What? I understand the complaints over some SNK controls but... QCF?
Those are in like the DNA of every fighter ever lol.
lucebuce12
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I know right? Something that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of players can do consistently is so irritating.
Jawmuncher
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The only input I would be all for getting rid of are charge inputs and the full circle inputs.
secretanchitman
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QCF is still in thankfully, just DP inputs are out I believe.
Maybe it's just me, but i feel they made these easier in SFV.
BronsonLee
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Instead of removing charge inputs, just remove all the charger characters
perfecto
perfecto
DoctorFish
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I feel like we're quickly approaching a point where nothing will be left in the next Marvel Vs Capcom except an auto combo button.
Vaughngief
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Leave my bread and butter alone.
LightofRohan
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I hope this game is 100% exactly like the old games, but also 100% different and revolutionary and evolved.
QCF is still in, it's just the DP motion that's gone. And QCF isn't hard to do on a D-Pad.
Ok qcf is fine but the shoryuken motion is horrible. These are archaic control schemes which come from the days when arcades and joysticks were still a thing. They should figure out a way to move on because it makes gameplay too complex/difficult for filthy casuals like myself. When I played MvC3 with my nephew a couple of years ago, he had completely no idea what qcf was. He was 18 and grew up playing Halo.
Lee Chaolan
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Villains at odds with other Villains is a very cool dynamic that needs to be explored more in these games, rather than them all holding hands and getting along.
Would be super cool.
I'll never understand how people can play FPS games using two analog sticks at once, jump and shoot and all sorts of other games that use every button, yet a QCF motion is somehow too complex. I'll budge on the half-circle and DP motions, but not quarter circles. It just takes a few minutes to get it.
Vaughngief
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Really though, I didn't see people complaining about DP motions. I don't think that's the problem here. Down Down seems way more awkward and uncomfortable. Just make it an option please.
Undead Fantasy
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Indeed. I'm really hyped for the story mode lol.
Blackage
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With the exception of Hsien-ko >.>
JediLink
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Uh, that's technically true, but in case you didn't hear Mark Gatha has actually passed away.
I completely agree about X being silent. It just wouldn't make any sense in any way, especially if he's going to be one of the main characters of the story. I hope they get a good voice for him.
I don't like it but I don't complain about it because I don't care enough to and I've been playing these games since SF2 came out on the SNES.
SF4 was when I tried to get into it and that shortcut motion they had for DP in that game made it so much easier.
Professor Beef
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That's his and your fault.
I know. I'm saying if they can handle controls in a FPS, they are plenty coordinated enough to learn do a quarter circle motion.
Old Man Beef ain't having none of you youngbloods playing on his lawn.
Your nephews lack of exposure to fighting games isn't a fault of the genre or the control scheme.
That's such a stupid argument.
Professor Beef
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I mean, at least do some research on a game before buying it. I'm just imagining him and his kid looking at a movelist like a wild animal trying to read a thesaurus lmao
NoctisVsStar
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Shoryuken is basically this:
Tap forward + Quarter Circle + Punch = profit (has to be done in a smooth motion/quick motion)
it's really simple... I can't play charge to save my life tho.
Tap forward + Quarter Circle + Punch = profit (has to be done in a smooth motion/quick motion)
it's really simple... I can't play charge to save my life tho.
It's not the qcf motion that is hard. It is incorporating shit like qcf, dp and double qcf into combos which are already obnoxiously difficult to learn and requires delving into forums and other internet resources.
I am an average or maybe slightly above average FPS player but I am horrible at fighting games because the latter requires too much effort to learn and too much twitch reflexes to be good at. And I played fighting games casually for years before I even went anywhere near a FPS. There are plenty of people like myself, I'm sure. This is why the FGC is so much smaller than the FPS communities despite fighting games gaining popularity much earlier. The games are just too difficult for casuals to access
That's how i do it, tecnically pushing on extra forward, but the game doesn't mind.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Why's everything got to revolve around combos?
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