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Marvel's Avengers: Age of Ultron Trailer #2

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Looks like the same place as this scene:
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Great observation.

If you look near her feet you see something in the water.
 
Exactly, the people who spout this nonsense really have no idea what they are talking about.

It always just comes across like a spoilt child who doesn’t know anything other than their small amount of influence and experiences.

I can understand the criticism about Avengers' cinematography. Some of the indoor scenes did look claustrophobic with two many close-ups. If I'm not mistaken Joss talked about the problems too on the commentary. It's a totally different thing to come in and say "lol like TV shows" without actually saying why you think so.
 
I want to try to avoid any further trailers but I don't know how that's possible in this day and age.

I thought it was Scarlet Witch being put onto the surgical table, but I guess it really is Black Widow. Wow.

Hydra? Maybe Strucker captures her and that's why Hawkeye goes out on his own, and the rest of the team catch up and that's where this whole thing starts.
 
I want to try to avoid any further trailers but I don't know how that's possible in this day and age.



Hydra? Maybe Strucker captures her and that's why Hawkeye goes out on his own, and the rest of the team catch up and that's where this whole thing starts.

Widow has different looking hairstyle in that shot. I'm guessing this is a flashback from Scarlet Witch getting in her head.
 
Widow has different looking hairstyle in that shot. I'm guessing this is a flashback from Scarlet Witch getting in her head.

She seems to look younger there too so I'm expecting it to be a flashback. I like how they sprinkle Black Widow's backstory slowly through the different movies though the lines that she had. It's more organic than devoting an origin movie for her. Would still watch a Black Widow film though.

I have a feeling that this person could be
Death
. They will need to introduce her soon, and it would also be some good groundwork for Infinity War.

It's just before the underwater sex scene...
"Nutted but she still suckin"

And this is how Thanos finds Earth and startsthe Infinity War...
 
Klaw confirms that this will be Wakanda. Since he has ties to Wakanda and Black Panther and not to Ultron. The girl behind Thor is probably a white(er) member of the Panther guard. The bald girl with the fine ass defined back is another member.

Makes sense why they announced Panther during filming, because he's obviously going to be in the film.

FOUR new Avengers. might be overkill.
 
I thought it was Scarlet Witch being put onto the surgical table, but I guess it really is Black Widow. Wow.

Here's my guess:

In first encountering the Scarlet Witch, The Avengers get zapped by her, causing them to be mentally thrown into their pasts (and maybe future for others). This is why we see a young Black Widow and Cap walking through a 1950's party. Could also explain why the Hulk is freaking out, as he's brought to a time when he was much more savage.
 
Makes sense why they announced Panther during filming, because he's obviously going to be in the film.

FOUR new Avengers. might be overkill.

Well Feige said Civil War would be the first time we see Black Panther in costume. Which means he's probably in Age of Ultron, but is not Black Panther yet.
 
I liked the first trailer well enough, it was a bit messy as well but it served its function. This one seems totally unnessecary. It really looks like footage that didn't make it into the first one and that they threw together randomly. No structure and the music didn't fit.

I enjoy watching trailers but I'd rather have nothing at all than stuff like this. I'm sure there are enough tidbits in there to spark new speculations and discussions and maybe that's all they wanted to achieve but it does a bad job selling me on the movie (not that I'm not sold already).
 
Keep in mind, this isn't really trailer #2, it's a TV spot, so I expect a new trailer with all the bells and whistles to drop around the Super Bowl.
 
No one has ever explained what they meant by that. It is so weird.

He framed the film as if it was shot for TV. Lots of mid shots and close ups, barely any wide shots. Didn't take advantage of a wider frame (that seems to be fixed as almost every frame of this trailer seems to be okay with placing characters in different corners of the frame).

Overly lit sets. Everything was lit to an extreme, even dark scenes. This isn't completely his fault as Marvel probably wanted to show off the expensive sets but it gives it that "cheap" feeling people keep talking about. Again, some parts of the trailer seem to show he's moved on from this.

These are legitimate critiques, not "Whedon haters" or what have you.
 
He framed the film as if it was shot for TV. Lots of mid shots and close ups, barely any wide shots. Didn't take advantage of a wider frame (that seems to be fixed as almost every frame of this trailer seems to be okay with placing characters in different corners of the frame).

Overly lit sets. Everything was lit to an extreme, even dark scenes. This isn't completely his fault as Marvel probably wanted to show off the expensive sets but it gives it that "cheap" feeling people keep talking about. Again, some parts of the trailer seem to show he's moved on from this.

These are legitimate critiques, not "Whedon haters" or what have you.

just sounds like nitpicking
 
He already knows where Earth is. He sent Loki and the Chitauri to NY.

But...they did mention that Death was possibly the only way to stop The Avengers.

Thanks for not doing a full body image. Thanos's chicken legs always me ill.

Re: that character...

If it's the same scene with Thor, it can't be Death surely. Isn't Hera the one Norse Gods are stuck with pre-Valhalla?
 
Thanks for not doing a full body image. Thanos's chicken legs always me ill.

Re: that character...

If it's the same scene with Thor, it can't be Death surely. Isn't Hera the one Norse Gods are stuck with pre-Valhalla?

It could be Hel, goddess of the underworld.
 
He framed the film as if it was shot for TV. Lots of mid shots and close ups, barely any wide shots. Didn't take advantage of a wider frame (that seems to be fixed as almost every frame of this trailer seems to be okay with placing characters in different corners of the frame).

Overly lit sets. Everything was lit to an extreme, even dark scenes. This isn't completely his fault as Marvel probably wanted to show off the expensive sets but it gives it that "cheap" feeling people keep talking about. Again, some parts of the trailer seem to show he's moved on from this.

These are legitimate critiques, not "Whedon haters" or what have you.


From the trailers, the cinematography looks much improved from the first film.
 
Very possibly. Maybe she tells him Loki's still alive and he's a fucking idiot, and that's the impetus for Thor films to stop being staggeringly shit. Ya know, after he nuts.

Of course. Can't tell him that shit beforehand. If it indeed is Hel:

Thor gets dead by hand of Ultron due to some Loki (disguised as Odin) trickery that sends Thor weakened into battle, gets sent to Hel's cave by Asgard-tech, she tells him his father is waiting for him and Loki has not passed this place, Thor is destroyed and surprised Loki tricked him, Hel tells him he's a dumbass, Thor refuses to accept his death, Hel sends Gramr on him, Thor fights and defeats Gramr and is granted access back into Midgar, where the scene where he comes out of the water in the trailer is, finishes his business with Ultron and the Avengers, and returns to Asgard to personally deliver Loki to Ragnarok.
 
Of course. Can't tell him that shit beforehand. If it indeed is Hel:

Thor gets dead by hand of Ultron due to some Loki (disguised as Odin) trickery that sends Thor weakened into battle, gets sent to Hel's cave by Asgard-tech, she tells him his father is waiting for him and Loki has not passed this place, Thor is destroyed and surprised Loki tricked him, Hel tells him he's a dumbass, Thor refuses to accept his death, Hel sends Gramr on him, Thor fights and defeats Gramr and is granted access back into Midgar, where the scene where he comes out of the water in the trailer is, finishes his business with Ultron and the Avengers, and returns to Asgard to personally deliver Loki to Ragnarok.

I like this notion. And yet...

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He framed the film as if it was shot for TV. Lots of mid shots and close ups, barely any wide shots. Didn't take advantage of a wider frame (that seems to be fixed as almost every frame of this trailer seems to be okay with placing characters in different corners of the frame).

Overly lit sets. Everything was lit to an extreme, even dark scenes. This isn't completely his fault as Marvel probably wanted to show off the expensive sets but it gives it that "cheap" feeling people keep talking about. Again, some parts of the trailer seem to show he's moved on from this.

These are legitimate critiques, not "Whedon haters" or what have you.

I consider these things to not be real problems for the film and I think the bright lighting and composition are a big part of how the movie looks like a golden age comic book come to life. But I can see how these can be a problem for others and this is soooooo much better than just the "looks like a tv show LOL" drive-by shitposts I'm so used to seeing. Thanks for actually putting it into perspective.

edit: just like the post quoted below lol
 
Of course. Can't tell him that shit beforehand. If it indeed is Hel:

Thor gets dead by hand of Ultron due to some Loki (disguised as Odin) trickery that sends Thor weakened into battle, gets sent to Hel's cave by Asgard-tech, she tells him his father is waiting for him and Loki has not passed this place, Thor is destroyed and surprised Loki tricked him, Hel tells him he's a dumbass, Thor refuses to accept his death, Hel sends Gramr on him, Thor fights and defeats Gramr and is granted access back into Midgar, where the scene where he comes out of the water in the trailer is, finishes his business with Ultron and the Avengers, and returns to Asgard to personally deliver Loki to Ragnarok.
I love these threads.
 
Might be worth nothing 1.85:1 simply feels more TV than 2.39:1. When you watch Avengers at home on your HDTV, it's going to occupy the whole 16:9 screen, like a TV movie would.
 
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Thor has an arc similar to what happened with him in Earth's Mightiest Heroes when they fought Ultron. Just replace Enchantress with Hela.
 
This isn't a great trailer, but honestly I think at this point they're running out of stuff to really show. If they give away all the good character moments or the best action beats (if they haven't already) that would be dumb. As it is, they're clearly holding back because there'll probably be at least 2 more trailers before the film is out. I expect a Superbowl ad next month, and another full trailer by March, and one more final trailer about 1-2 weeks before it opens.

They're using a lot of the same scenes from the previous trailers here, expect different footage to try and keep it fresh. They're holding back on Vision and Quicksilver, maybe because not all the effects are done? So yeah, it's not very interesting as a new trailer, but there are some pretty nice but really short teases in there.
 
I consider these things to not be real problems for the film and I think the bright lighting and composition are a big part of how the movie looks like a golden age comic book come to life. But I can see how these can be a problem for others and this is soooooo much better than just the "looks like a tv show LOL" drive-by shitposts I'm so used to seeing. Thanks for actually putting it into perspective.

edit: just like the post quoted below lol

That TV show argument falls down because Joss's TV episodes are actually really well-done given the budget/time constraints. Stuff like Restless and The Body and Objects In Space are absolutely beautiful pieces. And The Avengers is a pretty generically shot film with few of those Whedon personal touches. Which is why Age of Ultron looks better because it's HIS film - he's not coming in and rewriting someone else's script, he's driving the material. So there's the ballet stuff and the existentialism and the established characters facing a threat of their own making.

Shit, if anything The Avengers is a Whedon Pilot (flawed, but interesting) and AOU is the season finale when the kinks are worked out and he gets to explore the themes he's actually interested in.
 
This felt like a really unnecessary trailer. Didn't do anything the last one didn't already do. Can't say it increased or decreased my interest in the movie.
 
Whedon himself talked down the shot compositions and lighting in the first Avengers and that he was thinking more cinematically for Ultron. So anything about the look of the first movie has, by his own admission, more to do with his inexperience than anything else.
 
That TV show argument falls down because Joss's TV episodes are actually really well-done given the budget/time constraints. Stuff like Restless and The Body and Objects In Space are absolutely beautiful pieces. And The Avengers is a pretty generically shot film with few of those Whedon personal touches. Which is why Age of Ultron looks better because it's HIS film - he's not coming in and rewriting someone else's script, he's driving the material. So there's the ballet stuff and the existentialism and the established characters facing a threat of their own making.

Shit, if anything The Avengers is a Whedon Pilot (flawed, but interesting) and AOU is the season finale when the kinks are worked out and he gets to explore the themes he's actually interested in.

Ha, this is exactly how I have looked at things too
 
This isn't a great trailer, but honestly I think at this point they're running out of stuff to really show. If they give away all the good character moments or the best action beats (if they haven't already) that would be dumb. As it is, they're clearly holding back because there'll probably be at least 2 more trailers before the film is out. I expect a Superbowl ad next month, and another full trailer by March, and one more final trailer about 1-2 weeks before it opens.

They're using a lot of the same scenes from the previous trailers here, expect different footage to try and keep it fresh. They're holding back on Vision and Quicksilver, maybe because not all the effects are done? So yeah, it's not very interesting as a new trailer, but there are some pretty nice but really short teases in there.
I also think that they're holding back on Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch's heel-face turn given them being missing from the group merchandise for the movie.
 
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I miss that Thor.

I mean I get all the character development and stuff... but oblivious to human customs, drinks a lot, throws cups, demands a flying beast Thor from that middle section of the first Thor film is the shit. Merge that with Thor: TDW's power level and you have the most entertaining Avenger.
 
I miss that Thor.

I mean I get all the character development and stuff... but oblivious to human customs, drinks a lot, throws cups, demands a flying beast Thor from that middle section of the first Thor film is the shit. Merge that with Thor: TDW's power level and you have the most entertaining Avenger.

I actually agree with that. Thor's character in TDW (and Avengers 1) is so boring compared to the first film. Hopefully, we'll see more of the Thor 1 character in Age of Ultron, especially in the party scene.
 
In spite of the fact that there's not really much being shown, it looks to be a potentially really dense movie with all the sub plots currently being hinted at. I hope it doesn't end up being too crowded which was always a risk running into the first movie. Looking at it now, it was a smart move to split Avengers 3 into two movies. Hell I think I even read some murmurs (or perhaps speculation) somewhere that none of the trailers so far have showed an iota of the final action sequence, which seems like a first for the entire MCU.

I really hope this is good. Weird thing to have to say now perhaps due to Avengers being really good and setting a good precedent, but it's not going to have as much of an easy ride this time. The first movie already struck lightning in a bottle and changed the comic book mediasphere, and it didn't even need to do as amazingly as it did thanks to it's setup. This movie's going to have some bigger shoes to fill since the novelty of super heroes teaming up has already been used once as a setup.

But really, I'm going to find myself three years from now saying the same thing about Avengers 3.
 
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