SlimySnake
The Contrarian
Yep, you paid $550 for what exactly? 60 fps at 600p like Star Wars?
Why do people like this even buy new consoles if they are ok with last Gen visuals? Baffling mindset.
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Marvels spider-man 2 graphics disappointed
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Why do people like this even buy new consoles if they are ok with last Gen visuals? Baffling mindset.
PeteBull
Member
If u wanna compare both of them graphically then best wait for launch/DF vid, game is still roughly half a year before launch, tons of optimisation can still be done, as u can see with comparing many games at launch/few weeks post launch when additional patches are pushed, hell even horizon FW u mentioned got big patch after launch
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DenchDeckard
Gold Member
I think the issue is the trailer they showed us originally.....
Starforce2005
Gold Member
I would go a bit farther and say the issue is how Sony setting the expectation too high with their last gen's (and a little bit of this gen) first party game graphic in general. Its like if Sony release a game that wasn't the top 5% in terms of graphic, its fanbase would lose their shit.
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The inside section looked like CGI at parts, the water chase lighting was insane too. Never doubt them, it'll be the benchmark for open world graphics for a few years come release.
PeteBull
Member
Infamous SS that launched in march 2014 looked better than 99% of ps4 games across whole span of console gen, if we talking sony exclusives u can expect high quality visuals, even bit above what we got now, but probably below what was shown in matrix demo- altho who knows maybe im wrong and sony top teams will surprise us with graphic quality that matches even that incredible matrix demo- ofc not at 4k60 but 1440p30(or some similar pixel count).
If we talking 99% of multiplats tho- those will look avg or even below avg depending on quality of dev studio and time/funding restrains
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Against I told you that I’ve been impressed and amazed with other games on YouTube at 4k. This isn’t about YouTube you fool.
Loxus
Member
I'm still wondering if you guys even watched it in 4k.We don't disappointed because we want matrix graphics, we disappointed from what they showing which not in par even with some other cross gen titles like horizon forbidden west also i just watched assian creed mirage gameplay trailer which is cross gen by third party studio and gonna released In the same time frame and here is some screens from it's trailer
SJRB
Gold Member
I'm still wondering if you guys even watched it in 4k.
Is this supposed to look good?
Loxus
Member
Is the images from the post i replied to supposed to prove anything? I swear you guys are trolling.
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DavidGzz
Gold Member
Funny how this was ignored unless I missed it. Some people just argue for the sake of arguing. He/she says the same thing I did yet 3 months later has flip-flopped. lol!
hyperbertha
Member
funny how you ignored this.I think horizons gameplay is mediocre.
Good for a few hours due to its variation. Spiderman's is worse. It was boring from the beginning. Two things can be mediocre at the same time yet one can outclass another. Neither are close to good gameplay like Zelda, xcom or Arkham.
Whitecrow
Gold Member
We dont need 4k.I'm still wondering if you guys even watched it in 4k.
Either you are educated to see how good/bad is the lighting or you are not.
You can throw the same image at 8k at it would still look bland.
Lysandros
Member
That's the very reason of why i dislike their policy wholeheartedly. This will undeniably dilute the focus on single SKU. We are bound to see the results sooner or later. 'PRO consoles' that people seem to salivating over is another facet of this very same problem. Demands/gamers shape the industry.
DavidGzz
Gold Member
I think horizons gameplay is mediocre.
I have just never seen someone go back and forth over two mediocre games(in your opinion). That's special.
kuncol02
Member
If you told me that it's from Flight Sim I would believe you. But in it you are expected to fly hundreds meters over cities. That buildings are straight from GTA5.
Lysandros
Member
You find the texture detail and water interactivity adequate in this section? Be it 'path traced' or not this doesn't change the fact that the game 'looks' highly inconsistent and underwhelming as for now and needs a serious amount of improvement as a PS5 first party exclusive.
Mr Moose
Member
lol
Slothbeing1209
Member
I think the game looks good. Just not as good as HFW. Slightly disappointed though.
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In 4k makes it worse, I can see all the flaws much better
Johnny Concrete
Member
Graphics look fine to me, didn’t blow me away, but neither did the original. I think Horizon FW spoiled me too much to be impressed.
But the fact you could play most of that sequence with 1 hand is more depressing …. maybe they go all-in on accessibility at Sony?
But the fact you could play most of that sequence with 1 hand is more depressing …. maybe they go all-in on accessibility at Sony?
mansoor1980
Gold Member
4k vid looks miles better
kraven looks menacing , cant wait for the game
kraven looks menacing , cant wait for the game
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Funny thing but not surprising.
I was watching a video on YT about a failed Chinese rocket launch in 1996, totally unrelated to gaming, but the relevant thing was that it included a lot of contemporary footage including photographs of the launch area and its surrounding countryside. What struck me was how fake it all looked, not in a CG way, but like a model diorama like from a 60's Gerry Anderson show like Thunderbirds!
Point being what looks "realistic" isn't necessary real looking, even when it is.
Pelta88
Member
Claiming Spider-Man looks like trash is just fanboyism. We did this in 2018. Forum guys and the usual influencers on socials doing their best to downplay it.
Until it released and became a gaming behemoth. I can't believe we're back to the same narrative, like we didn't keep the receipts from the last time.
Until it released and became a gaming behemoth. I can't believe we're back to the same narrative, like we didn't keep the receipts from the last time.
ChiefDada
Member
Yes, the vertical slice they showed us looks very rough in areas; a number of scenes look worse than Miles Morales. So when you see all this you have ask yourself does it make sense. And the only logical conclusion is that the rough sections they showed are not indicative of the quality upon final release. Clearly the objective of this showcase was to show off gameplay and not necessarily to communicate the fidelity that we will experience upon release. The only reason I was shocked by the presentation was because I have NEVER seen Insomniac release a trailer that was in such a rough shape. It's surprising for sure, but definitely not. Yet others here want to use this to prove/insist that the rough visuals are what they will deliver upon release. That is flawed logic. You might think that it needs a serious amount of work, but to the developers at Insomniac this is the normal process and workflow timeline of their projects.
TheDreadLord
Member
So what? Still doesn’t seem the best way to display the game.
GhostNTheBashShell
Member
It barely looks better than miles which already was nearly indistinguishable if you played it on PS4 Pro then went to PS5.
This initial trailer said it was running on PS5 and LOL it clearly wasn't because if it was the downgrade is fucking massive, it doesn't even look as good as Returnal.
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It probably was but dealing with the rendering is probably the only thing that the console had to worry about for that trailer.
Whitecrow
Gold Member
It's not you. It looks like a ps4 game most of the time.Just rewatched the 4k trailer maybe something wrong with me but really how in the hell this supposed to be exclusive next gen title
Yes, long draw distance and whatever, but at close ups, it looks nothing current gen.
Infested Goblin
Member
Only by the look of it
I told you the media spin has already begun, mental gymnastics to begin downplaying the flaws meanwhile praising the tiniest improvements as immense all the while claiming the people dissapointed are insane/unreasonable. Shit is like clockwork, all that remains is a buzzword calling it a "visual tour de force on the ps5". They just cannot criticize the big studios...always the safety bubble scenario.
If he said there were issues that he is sure will get improved it would be understandable but to feign ignorance is disappointing from digital foundry. These guys used to be so enthusiastic about tech advancements in past generations.
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DenchDeckard
Gold Member
I wonder why are people talking about downgrades, true mistery
Oh shit, I thought you weren't aloud to do stuff like this anymore?
It's clearly NOT running on a ps5.....What kinda bullshit is this?
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X-Wing
Member
Smaller contained scenes can of course contain a lot more detail than bigger ones.
I cannot imagine that someone actually expected to see that level of detail stretched throughout the entire city at all times.
The gameplay shown was of high speed action scenes where things in the distance get distorted and a lot is happening at the same time on the screen, of course textures further away from the focus of the player will be lower res in order to save resources for what matters.
Yeah the you need to see it in uncompressed 18k to truly appreciate the details narrative is wierd..it made the jank look even worse.
Musashipan
Member
Is that a ps4 game?
GhostNTheBashShell
Member
I mean they set the expectation, not us.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The bullshit was the original “reveal” trailer.
People think PS5 is some beast of a system using bleeding edge technology.
3liteDragon
Member
How exactly would you know that? We haven’t even seen what night time looks like, and it says it’s running on PS5 in the trailer. Sony had no problem pointing out some of the trailers were CG at the showcase. People like freak out as usual over shit like this, I’ll wait until the final product’s out & then we’ll talk.
I think they (its not just them) do risk 'de-valuing' the terms 'in-engine' and 'captured on ps5' with videos like the first one.