Insane Metal
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We've been in social isolation for almost two months now. So that shouldn't be happening. It's partially thanks to our president and the people listening to him and not abiding to the isolation.
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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Social isolation doesnt eliminate the virus. All it ever promised to do was flatten the curve. Draw out the spread but reduce the number of active cases at once.
HellforLeather
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I also work in a care home. I was astonished at how quickly the outbreak happened. We went from one nurse positive to 70 plus infected and over 20 deaths.
The problem might be asymptotic spreading. But honestly, who knows. The past two and a half months have been a nightmare.
How do you contain this virus? I have no idea.
lock2k
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The president is a moron, for sure, but most of the people are also idiots. He is a reflection of the people. Not the opposite. I see people going around everywhere and the isolation index should be above 70% in São Paulo and it's always below 50%. This is not all because of the president. He doesn't help, at all, but not everything is because of him. We are a third world country for a reason. That said, I hope we can impeach him soon because he is even worse than Dilma and damn, it takes talent to be worse than her. Fuck Bolsonaro.
Tell_men
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Why does China call those who died in Wuhan “martyrs”?
Chairman Tickles
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Piku_Ringo
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Furlong
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How's the rainforest doing? Has it started to grow back yet?
The rainforest was never in danger. It is sad that this lie has spread. The fires were within the average.
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JordanN
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India and Peru have now surpassed China in active cases.
Of course, we all know China is lying/fudging their numbers but how can anyone not believe this virus is deliberate? Basically, every economic powerhouse on earth has been willingly exposed and they're all going to lose billions of dollars and millions of jobs when this is all over. Literally a Communist wetdream to try and takeover the world.
Of course, we all know China is lying/fudging their numbers but how can anyone not believe this virus is deliberate? Basically, every economic powerhouse on earth has been willingly exposed and they're all going to lose billions of dollars and millions of jobs when this is all over. Literally a Communist wetdream to try and takeover the world.
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ManaByte
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Colorado amends coronavirus death count - says fewer have died of COVID-19 than previously reported
Colorado has made a stunning and significant change to the way it counts COVID-19 deaths that reduced the statewide figure from more than 1,000 to 878, according to a report.
www.foxnews.com
Imagine if this happened everywhere.
DeepBreath87
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Colorado amends coronavirus death count - says fewer have died of COVID-19 than previously reported
Colorado has made a stunning and significant change to the way it counts COVID-19 deaths that reduced the statewide figure from more than 1,000 to 878, according to a report.
Imagine if this happened everywhere.
All I know is I am a healthcare provider at the largest hospital in my county. There are only 2 others and combined they do not equal our facility. According to my state DOH, we've had 15 COVID deaths in my county. 4 have been reported at my hospital and DOH says 3 happened at nursing homes. Now its possible 8 people died at the other facilities or never made it to hospitals. But the my state also had to revise down the number of deaths weeks ago because county coroners publicly expressed confusion.
triplestation
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Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
If you're referring to that bizarre graph the state put out: pay attention to the X axis. The dates jump back and forth. Localities are moved about. After reading your comment I went and tried to figure out how you came to such a weird conclusion. I still haven't found it. Fox News maybe? But I did eventually find that graph the Georgia Department of Health released and it took only one minute of looking at it to see how wrong it was.
If something seems too good to be true, to fly in the face of the obvious and everything that is going on around it, then it's not true. This isn't about politics. Remember, a virus doesn't care about who you vote for.
Stay safe Georgia. If you want real, vetted statistics, here is a good source (AJC's Data & Interactives): https://www.ajc.com/news/data/
Remember, wash your hands.
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DeepBreath87
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These are the states with coronavirus cases falling and rising the most | CNN
Here are the states with the largest changes in daily case rates over the past week, adjusted for population.
www.cnn.com
According this, Georgia hasn't seen any meaningful increase since reopening. And this is from CNN so if they could spin it to crucify Kemp, they would.
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it still shows a declining trend, the higher rates are in april and the lower rates are in May.
ManaByte
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The virus doesn't care who you vote for, but people pushing questionable numbers and excel sheets do.
Majukun
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how does that makes any sense whatsoever?India and Peru have now surpassed China in active cases.
Of course, we all know China is lying/fudging their numbers but how can anyone not believe this virus is deliberate? Basically, every economic powerhouse on earth has been willingly exposed and they're all going to lose billions of dollars and millions of jobs when this is all over. Literally a Communist wetdream to try and takeover the world.
llien
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Speaking after Mr Trump, Mr Slaoui said he was "confident" that a "few hundred million doses of vaccine" will be delivered by the end of 2020.
www.bbc.com
Coronavirus: Trump says US reopening, 'vaccine or no vaccine'
The president hopes a vaccine will come this year, but makes clear the lockdown must end either way.
www.bbc.com
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hariseldon
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Neighbours' Stefan Dennis says on-set social distancing measures are working
He also plays down idea of incorporating COVID-19 into storylines.
www.digitalspy.com
Looks like Neighbours is the first soap to resume filming - the article is quite an interesting insight into how they’ll be doing things during the pandemic.
JordanN
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Which part? How the virus benefits China?
Communists don't care about how much life they take out as long as they achieve a specific goal. The Chinese leader Mao Zedong once said he was ok with sacrificing China's population in order to survive nuclear warfare. And this was the same man who already killed millions of his own people in the great leap forward.
China could never beat the West through traditional means, so a worldwide pandemic to them (that they lied and damaged controlled since the beginning) is their weapon instead.
Stouffers
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It really is inherent in Communism. If you can’t beat ‘em, level the field by crippling everyone else.
DeepBreath87
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I think its pretty obvious China knowingly allowed this to escape internationally. There is plenty of evidence they were locking down Wuhan from domestic travel inside China while allowing huge numbers to leave on international flights. Now what other possible explanation is there for that? Why would they stop people from traveling from Wuhan to Shanghai but allow them to fly to Milan? It doesn't take an epidemiologist to figure out what's going on there.
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Majukun
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and why would they unleash the virus on themselves first if that was the case? if they really wanted to hit "the west" like comic book villains they could have sent a random single dude as a tourist in any given country...especially considering that covid doesn't really look different from a simple cold at first, there's zero traceability...the only reason why we associate covid to china at all it's because they had the first cases.
also having a motif (real or imaginary) doesn't constitutes a proof in any judicial system i know of.
i can tell you that severe restriction to travel was applied to italy too when only the northern part was affected, and yet some people defied those orders and found ways around them.I think its pretty obvious China knowingly allowed this to escape internationally. There is plenty of evidence they were locking down Wuhan from domestic travel inside China while allowing huge numbers to leave on international flights. Now what other possible explanation is there for that? Why would they stop people from traveling from Wuhan to Shanghai but allow them to fly to Milan? It doesn't take an epidemiologist to figure out what's going on there.
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people are stupid..i mean there are people protesting lockdwn measures and says "it's like the common cold" now as trucks full of corpses and mass graves were still a thing.
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JordanN
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The same reason why they starve themselves to death or blow up their own nuclear reactors and try to pass the blame to others.
Communism has always been an extremely masochist ideology where they don't care about hurting themselves in the process. It's about who they can bring down with them in the process.
That's absolutely what they did.
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Majukun
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but they had no reason to.
one thing is to say they would do it if necessary (don't agree personally but whatever)
problem is, it wasn't, AT ALL.
for your theory to work, they have put their economy and entire nation at stakes for shit and giggles
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"Joe Rogan on what Bill Gates gets wrong about people and vaccines"
JordanN
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They do have a reason. It's called Marxist philosophy.
World communism - Wikipedia
One of the most dangerous men to ever live was Trotsky and ironically, another communist by the name of Stalin hated him so much that he killed him. But had Trotsky been in control and not Stalin, he was hell bent on going to war with every non-Communist nation.
China looks to continue where Trotsky failed.
Yes?Majukun said:
Once again, you don't think Communists haven't destroyed their own economy before?
Era of Stagnation - Wikipedia
DeepBreath87
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You misunderstand what I’m saying. I don’t think they released the virus on purpose. But the absolutely allowed many people to fly internationally out of Wuhan after they knew it was widespread and dangerous. There is no other explanation.
Majukun
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again, is not a matter if they would or notThey do have a reason. It's called Marxist philosophy.
World communism - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
One of the most dangerous men to ever live was Trotsky and ironically, another communist by the name of Stalin hated him so much that he killed him. But had Trotsky been in control and not Stalin, he was hell bent on going to war with every non-Communist nation.
China looks to continue where Trotsky failed.
Yes?
Once again, you don't think Communists haven't destroyed their own economy before?
Era of Stagnation - Wikipedia
is if they needed to do it for their "masterplan" to work
the answer is no, they didn't , they could have hit the west and face no danger whatsoever
yet decided to put themselves at a disadvantage for no apparent reason, partially sabotaging their own plan in the process too, since apparently they did it to get an economic advantage.
if you still think it's all perfectly logical and foolproof enough to tell people that you "don't know how they can think it was not done on purpose", then let's just agree to disagree at this point.
JordanN
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The Chinese government never had empathy for their own people. Just look at Hong Kong. Before the pandemic, what did we see on the news?
It was the police beating the shit out of protestors.
A virus infecting their own population is nothing to them. Compared to what the government has done to their own people, it may not even be the worst. The Communists rip out people's organs at will and sell them on the market.
Or how about when they just straight up slaughter people like in Tiananmen?
Yet look at the countries that are now the most hit hardest by it?
USA. Russia. India. So much more. All of them have more deaths and are losing thousands of jobs by the day.
And now Canada is next. Of course this is starting to look very orchestrated that benefits one group.
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Majukun
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considering the incubation period and people able to be asympthomatic carriers,the virus timeline is barely traceable so it's entirely possible that these travels happened way before the virus was even recognised as such...in fact the earliest european cases are from january, which would put them almost at the same time whenthe situation was evolving in china.
is it possible it was done on purpose? maybe. but we are nowhere near a "there's no other explanation" case here...we are not talking about a clearly recognizable sickness like ebola
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This video got me to look up Dr. Fauci's age and, holy shit, he's 79 years old? WHAT?!
Majukun
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you mean that the countries with the bigger populations are bieng the one hit the most by an infectious desease that spreads from person to person?The Chinese government never had empathy for their own people. Just look at Hong Kong. Before the pandemic, what did we see on the news?
It was the police beating the shit out of protestors.
A virus infecting their own population is nothing to them. Compared to what the government has done to their own people, it may not even be the worst. The Communists rip out people's organs at will and sell them on the market.
Or how about when they just straight up slaughter people like in Tiananmen ?
Yet look at the countries that are now the most hit hardest by it?
USA. Russia. India. So much more. All of them have more deaths and are losing thousands of jobs by the day.
And now Canada is next. Of course this is starting to look very orchestrated that benefits one group.
no shit.
and again, you can bring all the examples you want about the chinese government not caring about the people, here we are talking about putting your country and economy at risk for no benefit at all because unnecessary, it's not a matter of if they care about the population, is a matter if they are complete idiots that don't behave rationally , because self sabotaging your economy with a virus you don't need to infect yourself with, while you are doing the whole virus stuff trying to get an economic edge on other countries sounds like really counterproductive to the entire masterplan.
DeepBreath87
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So why did they stop domestic travel then?
JordanN
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China has more people than Russia and the USA... by a lot. Like, an entire Billion more.
Only India on that list is directly comparable in size and yet we clearly see the virus continues to spread despite India having been infected later.
They are still idiots because they failed to cover their own tracks. That is exactly how we knew they were lying from the start.Majukun said:
But they were still smart to downplay this stuff to the world. That is the point. They weren't trying to stop a worldwide pandemic, they encouraged it.
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rykomatsu
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JordanN
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Even earlier. November 17th, 2019.
Edit: In China, not Europe.
And China was silencing the doctors who talked about it.
Basically, more proof they were fine with letting this pandemic spiral out of control. Just like Chernobyl.
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rykomatsu
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First confirmed case in Europe is Frace on Dec 27. I wasn't referring to China.
JordanN
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My apologies then.
DeepBreath87
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So the idea this virus has not spread to every major city in China despite silently doing so in almost every other industrialized countries tell you all you need to know.
Tell me how a disease like the originates in Wuhan, and manages to infect the entire world before it inundates Beijing and Shanghai?
Tell me how a disease like the originates in Wuhan, and manages to infect the entire world before it inundates Beijing and Shanghai?
JordanN
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So I just came back from the supermarket and what do I see?
-A woman in the Soda aisle starts coughing everywhere.
-Literally blurts out loud "I'm very sick"
-She touches my cart
This is why the virus is never going away. What was the point waiting in line for 10 minutes to get in the store just for them to let sick people inside anyway?
Oh yeah, and there are people who bring masks with them.... just to not wear it. Saw a guy talk to one of the store associates directly to her face with the mask hanging off his chin.
-A woman in the Soda aisle starts coughing everywhere.
-Literally blurts out loud "I'm very sick"
-She touches my cart
This is why the virus is never going away. What was the point waiting in line for 10 minutes to get in the store just for them to let sick people inside anyway?
Oh yeah, and there are people who bring masks with them.... just to not wear it. Saw a guy talk to one of the store associates directly to her face with the mask hanging off his chin.
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diffusionx
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So I just came back from the supermarket and what do I see?
-A woman in the Soda aisle starts coughing everywhere.
-Literally blurts out loud "I'm very sick"
-She touches my cart
This is why the virus is never going away. What was the point waiting in line for 10 minutes to get in the store just for them to let sick people inside anyway?
Oh yeah, and there are people who bring masks with them.... just to not wear it. Saw a guy talk to one of the store associates directly to her face with the mask hanging off his chin.
I get it, people are idiots and it is frustrating. But the virus is never going away because that’s just how viruses work.
JordanN
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I'm surprised no robber has taken advantage of the mask law.
>Dress up as pic related
>Show up to store/bank claiming you're a customer
>Steal stuff and run out.
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