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[adamsapple]

holy shit @ 4chan :lol

just linking cuz it's kinda large .

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[Ducarmel]

Lik what the hell why is your avatar the exactly like mine.

Also, totally didn't buy the whole 'Liara not on your crew thing'. You've got more important information brokering to do? Oh please...

Same I thought every single surviving member of my old crew should of dropped whatever they were doing to help, or at least help me in some way defeating the collectors. After all we went through I tell you doom and gloom is around the corner and you tell me your busy or I'm a traitor. Infact every person I met in ME1 that got help from me should of helped out in ME2.

For example the Rachni Queen could of helped us a la Dragon Age she sends a small team to help against the Collectors same with the Krogans. Even some of the criminals I helped should of send some goons to help out.

 

[adamsapple]

I can totally see the Rachni queen and such factoring into the final climactic battle against the reapers. As for Liara, the prequel comic series seems to imply she knew about Shepard much earlier, but she's developing a side story fighting against the Shadow Broker which probably needs closure before she joins Shep again.

 

[firehawk12]

It's kind of lame that you can't romance your original love interest though. You even have a picture of them in your cabin.

But I guess 2 years is a long time in the future. :lol

 

[erpg]

I laughed so hard when Joker said "Choco just made it onto the ship" after Jacob escorted the crew back. :lol Oh, Joker.

 

[Enosh]

Lik what the hell why is your avatar the exactly like mine.



Same I thought every single surviving member of my old crew should of dropped whatever they were doing to help, or at least help me in some way defeating the collectors. After all we went through I tell you doom and gloom is around the corner and you tell me your busy or I'm a traitor. Infact every person I met in ME1 that got help from me should of helped out in ME2.

For example the Rachni Queen could of helped us a la Dragon Age she sends a small team to help against the Collectors same with the Krogans. Even some of the criminals I helped should of send some goons to help out.

I read a good idea for ME3 on a difrent forum, depending on your choices difrent races will join you in the final fight

so if you spared the council all 3 races will help, if spared the Rachni they will help etc etc cue to big final fucking space battle at the end with thousands of ships on each side

It would be glorious

 

[AshMcCool]

Was I the only one who wanted to preserve the collectors station but wanted to give it to citadel and not cerberus? Had to redone the last mission because that wasn't possible. Now now one died instead of mordin. A little bit undramatic that no one dies at a suicide mission, but what kind of commander would I be to let Mordin die if I know a way to save him?(Let him escort the crewman to the normandy). Maybe Mass Effect 3 starts with a similar suicide mission, where most of your team days(Edit: Especially if you decied to destroy the collectors base, maybe). Would be a cool way to start things off.

 

[The Elite]

EDIT. Didn't realize this thread existed so I'm posting this in here as well.

WOW. Just finished the game. 26 hours of pure awesome! Reading some of the spoilers here I can't believe how differently things could have gone with a few of the decisions I made. I'm really stumped at how they are going to handle most of this for Mass Effect 3. They can't pull the same trick twice.

Anyways:

I lost Samara to a bunch of bugs that picked her up and dragged her away. I had her loyalty and see no reason for her death. I didn't select for any of the special tasks. She just happened to be on my team at the time.

Zaeed died escorting the crew back to the ship. I didn't have his loyalty and didn't care to since I was playing this Shephard as fairly Paragon throughout. Things will probably change on my second play through.

Jack didn't survive holding the fort with the rest of my crew while I finished off the human-reaper. I didn't have her loyalty.

All in all, I didn't really give a damn about those who died story wise although I'm still pissed I couldn't save everyone. There were times I was literally closing my eyes because I thought people like Garrus, Thane or Miranda were going to bite the dust. I absolutely love the concept of a Suicide Mission in games. It raises the stakes and gives you an investment in the decisions you make throughout.

The last shot of Shephard jumping towards the ship had me on the edge of my seat. I was scared that he was going to bite the dust too!!! So did anyone lose Shephard? I haven't seen this mentioned in any spoiler tags so far.

I'll be playing a Renegade Femshep on my second play.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Someone help the small gap in my brain. Aria T'Loak mentions a Krogan (Not Patriarch) being someone she fought with a lot. Who the hell is she then? Someone shat their pants about it but didn't elaborate. I'm assuming it had to do with Wrex, but like I said, gap in my brain.

 

[Gilgamesh]

stuff

Wow, almost the same run as me right down to the playing time. :lol

 

[AshMcCool]

I think shes the asari wrex mentions in the first game. The one that was was supposed to be killed in a huge explosion after a long fight with him but somehow survived.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Garrus: Do you miss those conversations we had on the elevators?
Tali: No.
Garrus: Oh come on, you would tell us about life on the flotilla. It was an opportunity to share!
Tali: This conversation is over.
Garrus: Tell us about your immune system again!
Tali: I have a shotgun.
Garrus: ...Maybe we'll talk later.

 

[Ripclawe]

What are the key points in the game where you should save before doing something you will regret later on, because I intend to play it and have all my team mates survive just reading the spoilers.

 

[sdornan]

Garrus: Do you miss those conversations we had on the elevators?
Tali: No.
Garrus: Oh come on, you would tell us about life on the flotilla. It was an opportunity to share!
Tali: This conversation is over.
Garrus: Tell us about your immune system again!
Tali: I have a shotgun.
Garrus: ...Maybe we'll talk later.

I wish there was even more back and forth between squad members. The comments that your squad mates make relevant to your current quest were one of my favorite elements of the game.

Finished the game in a total of about 35 hours. Explored every possible planet, so that I had 100% in every nebula.

 

[firehawk12]

Garrus: Do you miss those conversations we had on the elevators?
Tali: No.
Garrus: Oh come on, you would tell us about life on the flotilla. It was an opportunity to share!
Tali: This conversation is over.
Garrus: Tell us about your immune system again!
Tali: I have a shotgun.
Garrus: ...Maybe we'll talk later.

I've heard about this, but when does this happen?

 

[Fox the Sly]

Oh yeah, for PC people, I was wondering - does the game create a character file after you finish the game like in ME1? The import in ME2 seems to be based off of a regular save file, so I'm not sure if the decisions are saved after the credits roll.

You get an option to continue on with the game after you finish it or import that character to a new game. I chose continue. The characters mention what happened one time and subsequently seem to ignore it as if it didn't. That must be the save you import to ME3. But no, I didn't see a new save file.

What are the key points in the game where you should save before doing something you will regret later on, because I intend to play it and have all my team mates survive just reading the spoilers.

- Save before doing loyalty quests. Some require tough decisions. Zaeed's nets you either assault rifle damage upgrade or heavy weapons ammo upgrade.
- Save after main quest mission or loyalty mission, but before talking to squad mates. Some conversation options will only appear once.
- Save before completing minor quests, see previous reason.
- Save before going through with a romance.
- Save when reaching a weapon locker or large door.

That's about all I can think of right now.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

This is your last chance, there will be endgame spoilers from this point with no tags.

In the same vein as the Assassin's Creed 2 story discussion thread, this is for people who have finished the story and want to discuss it without tagging everything, hopefully it will also stop the main thread having pages of black boxes everywhere, any and every spoiler is allowed with no tags necessary.

So, lets start with the major thing, the human reaper. This was not a twist I saw coming or even anticipated, they took the story in such a radical direction that didn't really fit in with the previous established lore that it really took me by surprise.

Also who did you loose in the final battle, I read posts stating people only lost 3 people but when the smoke cleared it was only Miranda and Joker left with 8 coffins! Tali's death shook me as she was one of my favourite characters and turning over Garrus' lifeless corpse was a real emotional point in the game.

Holy shit how did you lose 8 people?!?! lol

Man...I keep reading of all these death stories....but I didn't lose anyone. was it because everyone was loyal?

 

[TheSoed]

I'm kind of curious - what happens post game if you lose the Normandy crew (KELLY!!!!) or any of your party members? Is the ship just empty?

I didn't lose any party members, but I lost the entire crew. The ship is the same state it was after the Joker segment but before you go through the relay. Empty except the party members in their spots.

I played full renegade with a sliver of paragon (my face was totally scarred up, glowing red eyes, it was fantastic), everyone was loyal, got all the ship upgrades except the dermal one and most of the armor and weapons upgrades.

Tali = vent
Miranda = fireteam lead 1
Jack = biotic shield
Miranda = fireteam lead 2
I sent no one back with the crew, so they all died.

I'm a little surprised people were going through the relay without having everyone loyal, it seems like asking them to die. That's just me though.

It seems like the best way to ensure you keep the crew is to wait to do the Reaper IFF quest after you've done everything else in the game. That way you can immediately do Legion's loyalty quest and then go through the relay right after. That's my plan for subsequent playthroughs.

 

[selig]

I just want to get something out of my head before I continue my second playthough as a Renegade:

The human-reaper REALLY gave me the impression of "WHOAH, this is NGE!" Some overwhelming enemy trying to adapt human body (and mind?). How it was held up when you first saw it looked exactly like Lilith:

And the "face" had the same creepiness as EVA 01 after being beaten up:

So, for ME3 I demand to see a fully developed human reaper!

Oh, and a personal theory for ME3 about how to make it even more epic than ME2:
Someone took the human reaper-data and built it in secret....ONE human being missing to complete it. So Shepard sacrifices himself and becomes the consciousness of the human reaper, fighting against the reaper army at the end of the game. OR the galaxy folks start building giant combat robots to battle the imminent human reaper-menace.

A bit farfetched, yeah, but im just trying to think of how to top ME2. It´ll be really difficult

 

[firehawk12]

Yeah, that's basically the only way to save the entire crew it seems. The longer you delay, the more people will die.

The post game stuff is kind of odd though. You'll talk to people about how awesome/scared/exciting/whatever the last battle was but after that, they cycle back to their normal dialog trees.
"I thought was going to die! No messages for you Shepard!". Oh well, you can't really win I guess.

 

[Y2Kev]

I didn't rush through the relay, but I did send Jacob back with the crew. So I saved about a third of the crew, including Dr. Chakwas. Kelly got eaten.

My only real question I have for ME3 is this: how much time do we have?

We need to know how much time we have before the Reapers attack. It will define the entire game. If it's a lot of time, it's going to be Dragon Age Effect in terms of recruiting support. I kind of hope it isn't like that--I'm tired of recruiting. Maybe it will be a mad dash across the galaxy to find a certain technology that will help Shepard beat the reapers. Like a giant reaper nuke.

 

[firehawk12]

The problem is that every single BioWare RPG is structured the same way. This game broke it up a bit, but you're ultimately thrown into an pseudo-open world recruiting quest.

Now that you mention DA, I wouldn't be surprised if you end up spending the game recruiting armies in ME3.

 

[Kabouter]

The problem is that every single BioWare RPG is structured the same way. This game broke it up a bit, but you're ultimately thrown into an pseudo-open world recruiting quest.

Now that you mention DA, I wouldn't be surprised if you end up spending the game recruiting armies in ME3.

If you're a Paragon, you've been recruiting armies in ME1 and ME2 already .
Makes sense the Geth and Rachni will be there, possibly the Krogan too.

 

[firehawk12]

You'd probably have the council races on your side, along with the Krogans.

I don't know though - maybe BioWare will break their formula and try to do something different. But I have a feeling that you'll be going to 5 planets looking for *something*. Heck, maybe you'll be bumming around the galaxy trying to find the ultimate anti-Reaper weapon.

 

[rollingstart]

Mass Effect 3 should be fucking awesome

I want the Shadow Broker on my squad. Give me the choice to kill Liara or him/her.

I want Blasto aka first hanar spectre on my squad. "This one has forgotten if it's headsink is over capacity" PLEASE!

 

[CrazedArabMan]

I didn't lose any party members, but I lost the entire crew. The ship is the same state it was after the Joker segment but before you go through the relay. Empty except the party members in their spots.

I played full renegade with a sliver of paragon (my face was totally scarred up, glowing red eyes, it was fantastic), everyone was loyal, got all the ship upgrades except the dermal one and most of the armor and weapons upgrades.

Tali = vent
Miranda = fireteam lead 1
Jack = biotic shield
Miranda = fireteam lead 2
I sent no one back with the crew, so they all died.

I'm a little surprised people were going through the relay without having everyone loyal, it seems like asking them to die. That's just me though.

It seems like the best way to ensure you keep the crew is to wait to do the Reaper IFF quest after you've done everything else in the game. That way you can immediately do Legion's loyalty quest and then go through the relay right after. That's my plan for subsequent playthroughs.

Yep, you just need to do everything before the IFF mission, then you do that, do Legions loyalty mission, and you'll be all set. I waited to go through the relay after Legions mission and Jokers mission and lost Kelly, so my next playthough I'm making sure I have everything else done so that I can rescue and save everyone one that you are allowed to.

 

[p01ar]

Btw did anyone else talk to Mordin before they sleep with Tali?
He has some awesome dialogue about safe sex and offers to supply medicine to help fight off infection.

 

[Alucrid]

Is anyone else never going to save the Collector base? I totally agreed with what command Shepard said at the end to the Illusive Man.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I am a biotic god!

OMFG lol, i actually saved the guy in my game, can't believe i missed that.

Volus are fucking great man.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Btw did anyone else talk to Mordin before they sleep with Tali?
He has some awesome dialogue about safe sex and offers to supply medicine to help fight off infection.

He says that for anyone actually, he said that right before Miranda and I went down to engineering.

 

[Y2Kev]

He says that for anyone actually, he said that right before Miranda and I went down to engineering.

I didn't think to ask. I was being all secretive about it

 

[Zod the Bear]

Anyone had luck with the Rachni? I was told on Illium they'd show up to help.

They lied--I never saw them when I was busy doing my awesome end game mission.

Time to send some more Krogan at them.

 

[adamsapple]

For some reason Mordin gave me the speech too, even though I was only seeing Miranda at that time ...

Anyone had luck with the Rachni? I was told on Illium they'd show up to help.

They lied--I never saw them when I was busy doing my awesome end game mission.

Time to send some more Krogan at them.

Mass Effect 3 !

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I'm a little annoyed with what they did to the geth by turning them into pussies that no one is scared of. Shame really because i still think they're the best enemies in this game, rescuing tali is probably my favourite mission because you fight geth.

Really solid enemy design, they look cool and they have the best looking and sounding guns in the game, gutted i never found their pulse rifle to use.

Atleast bioware left me with the thought that if do-gooder geth ever turned on the galaxy we'd all be fucked, they study our comms so much so they us better than we do, and apparently their fleet is horrendously vast.

 

[selig]

Atleast bioware left me with the thought that if do-gooder geth ever turned on the galaxy we'd all be fucked, they study our comms so much so they us better than we do, and apparently their fleet is horrendously vast.

yeah, the Geth are basically sleeping Krogans. They´re there, but they won´t do anything. But should they "decide" to do something at one point....uwahh!

 

[erpg]

I loved the fact that Geth were trolling the ExtraNet.

 

[theignoramus]

Holy fucking christ this talking Geth surprise came out of nowhere. What is this shit!!
Geth HERETICS?!!! This puts a spin on EVERYTHING Geth related from ME1.

 

[Lostconfused]

apparently their fleet is horrendously vast.

Where do they actually mention the size of the geth fleet?

Edit: Also size isn't everything. You need firepower too.

 

[adamsapple]

Why so touchy Lostconfused ?

 

[LiK]

Lik what the hell why is your avatar the exactly like mine.

LOL, hey, i found a random Tali image online and cropped it myself. funny that you have the same one. i'm not changing it until i find a better image of Tali :lol

edit: okay, i'm no longer a clone

 

[Lostconfused]

Why so touchy Lostconfused ?

I am not. But it would be interesting to see what happens between the reapers and the much inferior geth in the next game.

Edit: Although its spelled out in this game. The two possible outcomes are that either geth loose in a straight up fight with the Reapers, or get reprogrammed and join them.

 

[Ducarmel]

LOL, hey, i found a random Tali image online and cropped it myself. funny that you have the same one. i'm not changing it until i find a better image of Tali :lol

edit: okay, i'm no longer a clone

well thanks and cool avatar

As for the geth

The isolated pockets of Heretics are still a threat whether you decided to wipe them out or use the virus on them.

Legion explained the Geth normally do not contact organics and it was apparent everybody was shocked the Geth(heretics) attacked in ME1 because they don't ever travel out of the veil.

So we might see some desperate gath/heretics in ME3 maybe indoctrinated Heretics.

 

[The Librarian]

The last shot with all the Reaper ships looking over the milky way galaxy... That truly was awe-inspiring.

How many of you destroyed/saved the Collector base? I opted to save it.

 

[LiK]

The last shot with all the Reaper ships looking over the milky way galaxy... That truly was awe-inspiring.

How many of you destroyed/saved the Collector base? I opted to save it.

destroyed it. everyone agreed with my decision when i talked to them after the credits.

 

[Ducarmel]

I went all paragon in first play and a mix of both in the second both times i destroyed the Collector ship.

 

[Y2Kev]

I still don't understand that really. Why do the Reapers need the Citadel conduit at all if they can just wake up on their own and still kill everything? Does Sovereign's destruction wake them up? Is it just the idea that a sneak attack is beneficial?

Also, do we know anything about galaxies beyond the milky way? Have they ever attacked in the andromeda, and why would they choose to start with the Milky Way?

I went all paragon in first play and a mix of both in the second both times i destroyed the Collector ship.

I played paragon the entire time but still saved the ship. I thought it would be something I would do in real life. Wasting technology is not my style

 

[Cep]

The last shot with all the Reaper ships looking over the milky way galaxy... That truly was awe-inspiring.

How many of you destroyed/saved the Collector base? I opted to save it.

I blew that shit sky high, the IM's reaction made it even more worth it.

Also: Y2Kev, I see what you meant about the ending, the human reaper is too weird, I REALLY needed a long face palm moment after that.

 

[The Librarian]

destroyed it. everyone agreed with my decision when i talked to them after the credits.

Why did you destroy it? I mean, I felt better about my decision when I saw all those Reaper ships overlooking the galaxy. There's no way the combined fleet of all the Citadel races can take on that many Reaper ships. Hell, they barely managed to kill one. They're going to need every advantage they can get. Besides, if the station were destroyed, all of those people who were killed died for nothing.

I still don't understand that really. Why do the Reapers need the Citadel conduit at all if they can just wake up on their own and still kill everything? Does Sovereign's destruction wake them up? Is it just the idea that a sneak attack is beneficial?

They don't need the Citadel, but it's the easiest way to achieve victory. Plus, it probably takes much longer to travel there without some sort of mass relay.

 

[LiK]

I blew that shit sky high, the IM's reaction made it even more worth it.

yea, i really liked his reaction. he kept trying to second guess my decisions but it felt good to tell him to "shut up" hehehehe

Why did you destroy it? I mean, I felt better about my decision when I saw all those Reaper ships overlooking the galaxy. There's no way the combined fleet of all the Citadel races can take on that many Reaper ships. Hell, they barely managed to kill one. They're going to need every advantage they can get. Besides, if the station were destroyed, all of those people who were killed died for nothing.

gotta stick with my Paragon ideals. and my relationship with my crew is better from it too so that'll carry over to ME3, imo. i don't want them hating me about saving it in the sequel.

 

[Y2Kev]

Why did you destroy it? I mean, I felt better about my decision when I saw all those Reaper ships overlooking the galaxy. There's no way the combined fleet of all the Citadel races can take on that many Reaper ships. Hell, they barely managed to kill one. They're going to need every advantage they can get. Besides, if the station were destroyed, all of those people who were killed died for nothing.

They didn't die for nothing--you still stopped the human reaper. But in the scheme of things, the entire mission was kind of narrowly focused. If you think about it in reference to what you see at the end. They weren't even actually close to a completed reaper and, according to EDI, would need millions of humans.