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Now that's old school BSN boards levels of dedication. We need the father to remote control the son's body and the circle will be complete.
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Mass Effect: Andromeda - Cinematic trailer
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Now that's old school BSN boards levels of dedication. We need the father to remote control the son's body and the circle will be complete.
Angry Fork
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Why do the characters faces/heads look odd? I can't pinpoint what it is. It's like cartoony as if it's an animated movie for children and certain aspects are over emphasized. This characters hair for example looks so perfect/shiny.
Shepard looks so much better and more realistic. Mass Effect has always had some goofy looking characters (especially women) but this one looks worse. Before it seemed like technical limitations and this one seems like purposeful design.
Shepard looks so much better and more realistic. Mass Effect has always had some goofy looking characters (especially women) but this one looks worse. Before it seemed like technical limitations and this one seems like purposeful design.
Durrzerker
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Did you guys all miss Dragon Age Inquisition? None of this is new. This is how Bioware stuff looks on Frostbite.
Not saying it isn't bad, just shocked so many people seem surprised by the art style when wd saw it in DA:I.
Angry Fork
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Never played/seen Inquisition. I don't like it though, especially the main woman in the trailer she looks like a Disney character. The more realistic look is so much better to me.
Durrzerker
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Sorry to say but better get used to it, EA is going all-in on Frostbite and so is Bioware
All their games will look like this from now on
Frozenprince
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There's also the fact that Male Sheppard was directly 1:1 modeled off a real person.
So are the new leads.
she watches all your orgies with the rest of the crew
I expected them to go that route with this game back when we didn't know much about it. Definitely disappointing I can't play as a Krogan or Turian lol.
Not so sure about FemRyder...
royox
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Watch the ME1 trailers and you will see they didn't show a thing about the plot.
prag16
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Reading this post it occurred to me... I've seen some of that Mass Effect porn floating around the internet... I wonder how long post launch until we get brother/sister incest Mass Effect pr0n... -_-
Affeinvasion
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It probably already exists.
prag16
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Nah, people don't have access to the models and assets yet. It'll take them a little time to hack apart the PC version...
Durrzerker
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I mean, people can draw. SFM isn't the only kind of Mass Effect porn that exists.
Also:
”Alec became interested in artificial intelligence as a means of human advancement."
http://kotaku.com/a-small-detail-you-might-have-missed-about-mass-effect-1791704965
Also:
Alec became interested in artificial intelligence as a means of human advancement.
http://kotaku.com/a-small-detail-you-might-have-missed-about-mass-effect-1791704965
Great job Kotaku, but what about Ellen Ryder, you know the mysterious 4th Ryder.
That would suck if Alec is SAM and he uploaded his consciousness into the AI when whatever happens to him in the game happens making us the Pathfinder.
Unless Ellen is still the basis of SAM and now is both Ellen and Alec Ryder's consciousnesses combined. Damn this Incestion just keeps going deeper.
Durrzerker
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I think it's more implying that Alec created SAM, not that he is SAM, unless I'm misunderstanding your post.
GravityInsanity
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Just now seeing this trailer. Definitely day 1 for me.
He did create SAM. That is explicitly stated in the SAM bio, I'm just being an ass speculating overly dramatic nonsense about what happened to their MIA mother Ellen who is also mentioned in the SAM bio. Who they refer to as Him, but the voice they use is rather ambiguous. Like Guillo from Baten Kaitos, which was actually voiced by a Man and Woman.
Maintenance
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Mom and Dad are actually the AI and the final boss, feeding you fake news so you go to war against the aliens.
Shocking twist.
Shocking twist.
John Kowalski
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me2
Ohhh, that's gonna create some tension, possibly. Hope she's actually related with TIM.So....what do we know about this?
eot
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Not a fair comparison though, considering broshep was modeled after Mark Vanderloo.
I've seen pictures of him before, but this looks so strange! Like someone photostopped Shepard's head on a human model. It doesn't look real to me.
God no. Hopefully she's not.
I'm sick of this weak tie in shit.
Ripped off of the Avengers. "We have a Hulk."
Durrzerker
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I mean, people can draw. SFM isn't the only kind of Mass Effect porn that exists.
Also:
Alec became interested in artificial intelligence as a means of human advancement.
http://kotaku.com/a-small-detail-you-might-have-missed-about-mass-effect-1791704965
I need this game now!
ArgyleReptile
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Space hole's a space hole.
Durrzerker
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They probably don't even have holes
It's probably just, like, a fuckin' alien squid tentacle
Admiral Woofington
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EatChildren
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The entire Mass Effect trilogy is full of busted, hilarious janky animations including on the face. And animation bugs, particularly during dialogue. I really, truly don't feel this animates any worse at all.
That being said, I do feel some parts aesthetically could do with some work, namely the skin shader. I actually really adore how faces/skin look in DICE's games, like Battlefield 1 and Battlefront. People look very convincing there. With Andromeda it's like they're missing a subtle subsurface scattering shader or something to soften the faces and give fleshy a more...fleshy tone.
But that could also be a product of the varied lighting. Inquisition had a similar issue. I don't agree with the notion that Inquisition had bad faces; most of your crew looked fantastic. Solus in particular looked excellent and clearly had a subtle subsurface scattering going on all over his face. Under different lighting conditions though a lot of these impressive shaders would fall apart, and I kinda chalk that up to Frostbite. Even Battlefield 1 and Battlefront can look oddly drab at times.
I also feel the technical/artistic deficiencies are highlighted by advancements made technically in engine. Unreal Engine 3 is extremely limited compared to the real time algorithms of Frostbite 3, and in some ways had the advantage of baking a lot of effects, resulting in scenarios and assets that were highly hand tailored and unlikely to be "seen" outside of very specific lighting/shading context. With Andromeda you're dealing with a far more advanced lighting system and higher quality assets that puts weaker aspects into comparison, like hair. Plastic looking hair in the trilogy isn't a big deal since a lot of stuff looks plasticky and limited, but here it's up against a lighting/shadow engine that makes it really stand out.
That being said, I do feel some parts aesthetically could do with some work, namely the skin shader. I actually really adore how faces/skin look in DICE's games, like Battlefield 1 and Battlefront. People look very convincing there. With Andromeda it's like they're missing a subtle subsurface scattering shader or something to soften the faces and give fleshy a more...fleshy tone.
But that could also be a product of the varied lighting. Inquisition had a similar issue. I don't agree with the notion that Inquisition had bad faces; most of your crew looked fantastic. Solus in particular looked excellent and clearly had a subtle subsurface scattering going on all over his face. Under different lighting conditions though a lot of these impressive shaders would fall apart, and I kinda chalk that up to Frostbite. Even Battlefield 1 and Battlefront can look oddly drab at times.
I also feel the technical/artistic deficiencies are highlighted by advancements made technically in engine. Unreal Engine 3 is extremely limited compared to the real time algorithms of Frostbite 3, and in some ways had the advantage of baking a lot of effects, resulting in scenarios and assets that were highly hand tailored and unlikely to be "seen" outside of very specific lighting/shading context. With Andromeda you're dealing with a far more advanced lighting system and higher quality assets that puts weaker aspects into comparison, like hair. Plastic looking hair in the trilogy isn't a big deal since a lot of stuff looks plasticky and limited, but here it's up against a lighting/shadow engine that makes it really stand out.
Also:
Alec became interested in artificial intelligence as a means of human advancement.
http://kotaku.com/a-small-detail-you-might-have-missed-about-mass-effect-1791704965
Reaper is back baby.
Yet it's all they've been doing with the majority of the marketing videos.
Hasphat'sAnts
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It will in fact be nearly impossible to be animated worse than Mass Effect 3.
In fact it'd be downright impressive if they pull it off.
cripterion
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Except for milquetoast MaleRyder, this was a pretty cool shot of the squad
seriously, maleryder is so dumb to look at.
Male Ryder just looks like a copy paste Walker from Fifa17...
Man, was hoping for more with this trailer. Looks like they're going with the same squads compo as before... what if I don't want no dirty krogan on my team?
It would hardly be the only thing that is similar to Xenoblade Chronicles X in Mass Effect: Andromeda
Dude, I know that, I wanted to type that in, but I just want to give Bioware a chance. Maybe she's wearing the jacket because the environment is ok for that sort of dress? God dammit who am I kidding? She's going to be running around with the same outfit on a high hazard planet
royox
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Hah! Seems I'm not the only one who was feeling the same.
Both games have the same premise of being a pathfinder on a whole different planet
LegalEagleMike
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Worst thing about ME3(other than the original endings) was not having a krogan on the team. I love Grunt.
I'm sad they had to cut the Salarian squadmate. It would have been nice to get another alien and seen another side to the Salarians, like a Captain Kirrahe type vs the quirky Mordin.
But hey our pilot Kallo will likely have some solid development. So we aren't totally bereft of Salarians.
But hey our pilot Kallo will likely have some solid development. So we aren't totally bereft of Salarians.
John Petrucci
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I noticed this as well. A tiny bit TOR-ish with the face designs but obviously not even close to that extent (Thank God) One of my only little gripes thus far. The faces do indeed look a bit cartoony compared to the original trilogy. Overall I love the look and vibe of MEA, though.
EatChildren
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If they started but couldn't get him/her to fit in the production schedule, they could always recycle the content and integrate it into the inevitable DLC.