Man-is-Obsolete
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He is trying to tuck people into bed before sneaking out at night.
That won't happen unless we get rid of Obamacare, money in politics, and corporate democrats.Time to stop playing games and go talk to Democrats and get us single payer.
Ryan said the same thing after the House failed to pass their bill. I won't underestimate the Republicans' ability to rally behind a cause, no matter how stupid the cause is.
My boss, a huge Republican, is positive that the GOP is purposefully tanking the whole thing so they won't be blamed for the "inevitable" Obamacare implosion. But like... how could they not be blamed for all of this?
That won't happen unless we get rid of Obamacare, money in politics, and corporate democrats.
My boss, a huge Republican, is positive that the GOP is purposefully tanking the whole thing so they won't be blamed for the "inevitable" Obamacare implosion. But like... how could they not be blamed for all of this?
The way McConnell talks I love how making a bipartisan bill is supposed to be a bad thing. I'm glad other Senators aren't caving in to his threats. This health care bill looks awful and for a health care bill to be successful needs to be a true bipartisan bill.
They control the government. If this goes to shit, it's on them.
Does he think purposefully letting "Obamacare implode" is noble of the Republicans if he believes they truly have a viable alternative in place that could help save people's lives?
My boss, a huge Republican, is positive that the GOP is purposefully tanking the whole thing so they won't be blamed for the "inevitable" Obamacare implosion. But like... how could they not be blamed for all of this?
Having complete control and being able to do less in over half a year than you ever have before is demoralizing as fuck. I'm glad they're getting humiliated and it's entirely their own fault from every angle
The way McConnell talks I love how making a bipartisan bill is supposed to be a bad thing. I'm glad other Senators aren't caving in to his threats. This health care bill looks awful and for this health care bill to be successful needs to be a true bipartisan bill.
I mean, there's not gonna be a bipartisan bill. At most they'll be a bill to somewhat stabilize Obamacare, which isn't a long term solution by itself. Even that's doubtful.
Your boss is a fucking moron.
Tanking the whole thing is making a decision on healthcare. No matter what they do, it's a decision, and whatever happens after that decision is on their heads. They're accountable for everything now, they control the government.
Their base would pummel them in the primaries next year.
These idiots didn't think Donald Trump would win...
On the bright side, that incompetence is probably helping this period not be as bad as it could be.
On the bright side, that incompetence is probably helping this period not be as bad as it could be.
Oh wait. This clown is gona push the narrative that they "saved" the healthcare industry from imploding under Obamacare ain't he?
Get fucked, turtle.
I don't think his constituents actually care. His best bet might to be to do what he can to fuck over the current markets, prevent them from stabilizing anywhere sane, and then just keep pointing his fingers at the Democrats and saying "I'll fix it!". But he and any of his fellow Congressmen could also just start killing people on TV and I really doubt any of their constituents would actually care.Oh wait. This clown is gona push the narrative that they "saved" the healthcare industry from imploding under Obamacare ain't he?
What a demon!
And Cruz is still being an asshole
My boss, a huge Republican, is positive that the GOP is purposefully tanking the whole thing so they won't be blamed for the "inevitable" Obamacare implosion. But like... how could they not be blamed for all of this?
And for a moment I thought his disagreement with the senate bill was because he found a spine for a moment. Instead he's disagreeing with the bill because it doesn't do enough to fuck people over with pre-existing conditions? Are you kidding me Ted?
America's moral foundation, built on 'Judeo-Christian' values, as per Ted Cruz.
So, there's a reasonable chance that they do the bare minimum to somewhat stabilize Obamacare.
They will succeed in passing their bill eventually.
It can work; they can't replace it with something people will be happy with, period, it is impossible for them to get the votes. So they have to wait for people to be happy with anything.
There's really no alternative. They can always say that even if some in the GOP won't vote for their bill, it's proof that the bill is not partisan, so Democrats need to do their part and vote for it.
Watch the narrative that will emerge over the coming weeks, it will be all about how we need a non-partisan bill, and that will put significant pressure on the Democrats. Pay attention.
"Wait for people to be happy with anything"? When you say "people", who are you referring to? The majority of Americans already approve of the ACA and only 30% actually want it to be repealed. Sure, everyone wants improvements, but the only people still clamoring for a full-on repeal and replace are the more vocal, far-right sectors of the Republican party. The GOP would actively piss off more people by repealing Obamacare than by simply changing/fixing it at this point. The only people who would be happy with "anything" are far-right Republicans.
I just can't envision the current GOP being remotely cunning or smart enough to actually lure Democrats into this optics-driven trap you're describing. Besides, even if the GOP ends up trying to corner Democrats on this whole thing, it's not like the Dems would somehow be powerless to stand up to the Republicans and not call them out for their bullshit. They've been doing just that non-stop ever since Trump, Ryan and McConnell embarked on this whole idiotic crusade of theirs a few months back.
The Republicans in congress have been making themselves look like fools these last few months with this whole repeal and replace thing. All Democrats would have to do is say "Hey, we've been wanting to work with these assholes on improving healthcare from the start, but they've deliberately been locking us out. Now they've come crying to us because they realized most Americans like the idea of universal healthcare now and don't want it taken away from them".
I said the Republicans will draw this out until ACA is broken enough to HAVE to be replaced or amended. At that point, a few Dems in some states can be lured to vote in favor of the Rep's proposal, which will be heavily marketed as non-partisan partially as a result of some of their own not voting for it. It's not like they need all the Dems, they need a few votes to make up for the lost ones on their end, and you're looking at it based on today's view of the ACA, of which the popularity is peaking now as people get familiar with it, but which can only fall from here on out.
The only way to prevent this is to undermine the idea that it needs to be repealed, instead selling the point that it needs to be improved and that the Republicans are going in the wrong direction as a result since they want to repeal it. For that to happen, Dems need some serious quality far-reaching advertisement to make the point.