Segata Sanshiro
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Media Create Sales 11/19 - 11/25 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
avatar299 said:
which part do you disagree with?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
mario galaxy's fate has been sealed
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
I really wish people would stop making such a big deal out of mario being "out of the top 10!" Come on! There have been weeks where the number 10 game sold in the 4 digits. If Galaxy sold 8900 and was still in the top 10, would we see "Well, it's in the top 10! Go galaxy!" every few posts? Its sales aren't much lower than last weeks sales (probably around 4 to 6k less). Its placement means nothing.
Now the people bitching about the mediocre sales of galaxy in general, they are free to continue.
Now the people bitching about the mediocre sales of galaxy in general, they are free to continue.
Anyhoo, Galaxy's not doing all that bad, in relation to its legs, but as I've said countless times before, this will probably be the last 3D Mario (well for 10 years probably). Next console Mario may be 2D. Unlike Zelda: PH, Nintendo would have a legitimate reason to follow the DS path with certain games.
Vinnk said:
DQIV please. Also, can you see how Layton & Disgaea portable are selling since they're out today?
Edit: Mario Galaxy's sales are disappointing because it still hasn't sold out of it's initial shipment of about 700k. If it doesn't sell all of those by year end, that's kind of disastrous.
perfectchaos007
Member
Dahbomb said:
Okay so DS had boosted sales because of DQIV and PSP had boosted sales because.....
I mean no PSP title even made it in the top 30. What the hell? Just a random ass bump for PSP. Japan didn't have a black friday of sorts did they?
perfectchaos007
Member
reilo said:
Oh I forgot. Japan may not celebrate CHRISTmas since most are athiest, but they do celebrate Giftmas on the same day.
Cheesemeister said:
They should've given this as a freebie with purchase: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ghhfEXpZ8Vs
perfectchaos007
Member
justchris said:
I know I remember seing somewhere that most Japanese are atheists. Oh here it is
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html
65%
May or may not be credible
perfectchaos007 said:
That counts atheists and agnostics in the same category, which they clearly are not. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in god or a deity of any kind. An agnostic is a person who believes, but doesn't necessarily have a codefied faith, or is unsure of exactly the nature of what they believe in. It would not be incorrect to classify a large number of Japanese as agnostic, but I would not call them atheist. I think that explains the confusion.
narcosis219
Member
Spike said:
They should also include the coach's magic spray. :lol
ethelred said:
Sorry, it was the best I could come up with in one line. Here is the wikipedia article. I'm sure it'll be more helpful.
ethelred said:
Yup, piss poor... It's the misconception help by most religious people though for some reason. :lol
AgnosticWiki said:
Also your so called CHRISTmas is actually celebrated on the pagan date for the festival for the lengthening of the hours of sunlight in a day at the point of mid-winter and has nothing to with the actual birth of said asian bloke.
Back on topic.
The top 2 games in the MC chart that are not new entries are both Mario Games, and Galaxy is the 2nd of these and we get all these doom & gloom posts and 'bomba' posts? Have you guys not seen the chart before? It's selling similar to last week - not a runaway success (moms & dads & granny not buying 3D platformer shock!!) but it's showing the first signs of the fact it will sell a good few copies over Japan's New Year celebrations.
perfectchaos007 said:
Most Japanese are not Atheist. You have to care to be Atheist. Most Japanese I have met don't care one way or the other. God may or may not exist but they feel it has little bearing on their lives one way or the other. Still, when there is a birth, death or holiday you will find Japanese people at a shrine/temple.
And now the same paragraph, but on-topic.
Most Japanese don't hate console gaming. You have to care to hate console gaming. Most Japanese I have met don't care one way or the other. Mario may or may not exist but they feel it has little bearing on their lives one way or the other. Still, when there is a 2D platformer, remake or party game you will fine Japanese people at the game shop/amazon.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Not a single PSP game into the top 30. NOT A SINGLE ONE and PSP sells almost 90k. Nonsense.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Olaeh said:
Not really a Mario Kart DS situation, but Mario Party games usually were sold during holiday season, so it will have a bump during last weeks in December.
Now it's selling around 6-8k a week, 50k would be reasonable, million seller status very near.
tetrisgrammaton
Member
perfectchaos007 said:
works for me
Phife Dawg
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Sales picked up this week. Last week 12k netted you a place in the Top 10, this week the 10th has 36k sales - not bad.
Musou is making it's way down pretty fast.
S&M picked up quite a few sales after those first day numbers, it could do quite decently after all.
WE is actually surprising, adding the numbers it's quite comparable to what it did before. Going by Moor-Angol's site: Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 470.163 (FW) 44,68% (ST) 1.052.360 (LTD). But it seems that a lot of the fanbase actually made the jump to PS3. I don't expect the PS3 version to have the same legs as the PS2 version though.
Too bad that SMG is already out of the Top10 but for all the doom&gloom is does hold out pretty well - let's see for how long.
Recent releases (first weeks):
Lair: 20k
Oblivion: 25k
That horror novel game: 20k
Musou: 180k
R&C: 12k
WE: 140k
Then there are games like EoJ that didn't even launch in the Top 10, so we don't have numbers (mc at least). In actual fact the only games that had an opening week over 100k are GM, MnG, SSM and now WE. To make things even worse, there aren't a lot of games apart from those 4 who have a LTD over 100k yet.
I recently got my hands on SMG (damn NoE and your shitty shortages *shakes angry fist*) and while it's one of the best games ever for sure I found it a bit disorienting at first. And I never had motion sickness from games or anything like that and have been playing 3D games since they came out (not even Descent gave me problems back in the days). I can see how that could intimidate people from playing it. Based on quality, imagination, gameplay and everything it can not sell enough copies though.
Musou is making it's way down pretty fast.
S&M picked up quite a few sales after those first day numbers, it could do quite decently after all.
WE is actually surprising, adding the numbers it's quite comparable to what it did before. Going by Moor-Angol's site: Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 470.163 (FW) 44,68% (ST) 1.052.360 (LTD). But it seems that a lot of the fanbase actually made the jump to PS3. I don't expect the PS3 version to have the same legs as the PS2 version though.
Too bad that SMG is already out of the Top10 but for all the doom&gloom is does hold out pretty well - let's see for how long.
PH sold well and while it controlled differently I didn't feel like they simplyfied the game design.Gahiggidy said:
There wouldn't have been a sequel on Wii even if SMG did awesome numbers.Chrono said:
So two huge franchises going over 100k in a week=most games?icecream said:
Recent releases (first weeks):
Lair: 20k
Oblivion: 25k
That horror novel game: 20k
Musou: 180k
R&C: 12k
WE: 140k
Then there are games like EoJ that didn't even launch in the Top 10, so we don't have numbers (mc at least). In actual fact the only games that had an opening week over 100k are GM, MnG, SSM and now WE. To make things even worse, there aren't a lot of games apart from those 4 who have a LTD over 100k yet.
I think it'll do pretty well in Europe over a long course. But we'll have to see about that of course. I think it can sell decently well into the next year and beyond if Sega plays the cards right here.Segata Sanshiro said:
I recently got my hands on SMG (damn NoE and your shitty shortages *shakes angry fist*) and while it's one of the best games ever for sure I found it a bit disorienting at first. And I never had motion sickness from games or anything like that and have been playing 3D games since they came out (not even Descent gave me problems back in the days). I can see how that could intimidate people from playing it. Based on quality, imagination, gameplay and everything it can not sell enough copies though.
What did SMG get in Famitsu?
I don't understand how New Super Mario Bros. can do so well yet Galaxy can do so poorly. Are the Japanese tired of Mario? I do think Nintendo should create new IP's and characters, but if quality like Galaxy can be overlooked, I don't know how much it would help. Perhaps people in Japan think the game will cause dizziness. I don't personally think so at all, but I can play FPS's with the best of them.
The only other thing I can think of is that Wii is gaining a very different audience from previous Nintendo systems, and even the DS. Or maybe people are content with Wii Sports, and now they're moving on.
I don't understand how New Super Mario Bros. can do so well yet Galaxy can do so poorly. Are the Japanese tired of Mario? I do think Nintendo should create new IP's and characters, but if quality like Galaxy can be overlooked, I don't know how much it would help. Perhaps people in Japan think the game will cause dizziness. I don't personally think so at all, but I can play FPS's with the best of them.
The only other thing I can think of is that Wii is gaining a very different audience from previous Nintendo systems, and even the DS. Or maybe people are content with Wii Sports, and now they're moving on.