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Media Create Sales 2/19 - 2/25
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Pureauthor
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Wow, ten pages in three days. Nice work, people.
Cheesemeister
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Pellham said:
Sumimasen (すみません
means excuse me or sorry. As in, "Sumimasen, Sony-san."Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
creamsugar said:
Should be 2 more weeks. Maybe 1 if it gets a little boost. I really thought it'd be past a million by the end of 2006. Nice to see it crawl that last mile though.
That's really not true. FFXIII still has a year, probably almost two years, before the game is released. It has a very long way to go. Story, art, dialog, gameplay mechanics can all be used if they moved the game to Wii. The only things that couldn't would be the engine and the models. The likelihood of a Wii game based on FFXIII (spinoff) are extrememly high, so they are going to creating these new assets for the system regardless. The are many reason why we can say that FFXIII will stay on the PS3, but being too deep in development is not one of them.Segata Sanshiro said:
Shin Johnpv
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The Wii will get a Spin off FFXIII game, it won't get FFXIII though. I would say there is a chance that it could get FFXIV though but that really all depends on how sales go in the coming years.
I can't believe people are seriously considering the possibility of FFXIII changing platforms. rofl
Quick question that might have been answered before though..... If PS3 continues to sell like this up until whatever FFXIII's expected release date is at this point, what will the installed base be like?
Quick question that might have been answered before though..... If PS3 continues to sell like this up until whatever FFXIII's expected release date is at this point, what will the installed base be like?
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
Final Fantasy XIII for Wii is pretty much impossible at this point, but either XIV or perhaps a greater emphasis (financially and promotionally) on the Crystal Chronicles spinoff series would be a possibility.
Just think of how crazy it would be if the new CC game outsold FFXIII in Japan....
Just think of how crazy it would be if the new CC game outsold FFXIII in Japan....
Wonderdave
Member
FFXIII on Wii is the new MGS4 on X360.
Eteric Rice
Member
Xeke said:
Actually, I think the chances of Dragon Quest X going to the Wii are pretty damned good.
As for FFXIII coming to the Wii... I seriously doubt that.
I personally wish they'd just stop making the main series, and maybe concentrate on a spin-off for each system.
That's just me.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
ethelred said:
Exactly. Any more of this "ZOMG X GAME CANCELLED ON Y CONSOLE IN FAVOUR OF Z CONSOLE" will be seeing the business end of the banstick. Quicklike.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Eteric Rice said:
Are you serious? I'm not one of the people who think all sequels are evil, but it is refreshing that FF is one of the few series out there in which the new games aren't real sequels. They are almost completely new IP with just a few staples.
I really think they're overdoing it with all the spin offs and compilations (and releasing 1 and 2 once again separately at full price). But it makes them money, so they'll keep doing it. Unfortunately, they're going to saturate the market with FF until everybody's tired of it. Well... That hasn't stopped the mario games... But really, this is like saying they should scrub Mario Galaxy and focus on Mario Curling!
I don't understand how anyone can say they are tired of the main series when they are COMPLETLY different games. Compare FFXII to FFX or FFXI and tell me if they have anything in common. Gameplay mechanics, setting, music, story... it's all different between each game unless it does a homage.
I would have to say it's the side stories that are the least refreshing, but we all know the type of people who cheer for those and you can tell by which console they're being released on.
I would have to say it's the side stories that are the least refreshing, but we all know the type of people who cheer for those and you can tell by which console they're being released on.
Eteric Rice
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GreenGlowingGoo said:
Yeah, but Mario isn't Mario I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XI, XII, XIII, XIII Versus...
They should just cut the numbers off, it's going to be pretty rediculous soon.
I have no intentions of getting into anything like that. Nor am I trying to persaude people into thinking that it will happen. You would never make a post taking the asumption that it is happening. However, I do find the idea that it CAN'T happen funny ... simply because no one knows how things will turn out. The are good reasons why it can happen and there are good reasons why it won't happen, but today, FFXIII is being made for the PS3 and that's that.Dragona Akehi said:
Ronok said:
Current PS3 LTD (up to 2/25/07, M-create) : 676,283
Average weekly sales from Launch till 2/25/07 (16 weeks) : 42,268
Non holiday period sales (from jan 08 - Feb 25, 2007) : 148,781
Average weekly sales from Jan 08 - Feb 25, 2007 (7 weeks) : 21,254.
FFXIII will most probably be released in Japan between Feb 24, 2008 and Feb 22, 2009
If we assume average weekly sales of 42,268, the LTD will be :
by Feb 24 2008 (52 weeks into future) : 2,874,203
by Feb 22, 2009 (104 weeks into future) : 5,072,123
If we assume average weekly sales of 21,254, the LTD will be :
by Feb 24 2008 (52 weeks into future) : 1,781,513
by Feb 22, 2009 (104 weeks into future) : 2,886,744
So, by the time FFXIII was released, PS3 LTD will be between 1.8 Million (minimum) to 5.1 Million (maximum)
FE first week sales analysis :
Fire Emblem : Path of Radiance. Released on GCN on 20-Apr-05.
First week sales : 100,357 (Famitsu)
GCN LTD by April 17, 2005 : 3,793,268 (M-create)
% of userbase : 2.65%
Fire Emblem : Goddess of Dawn. Released on Wii on Feb 22, 2007.
First week sales :75,359 (M-create)
Wii LTD by Feb 19, 2007 : 1,586,829 (M-create)
% of userbase : 4.75%
Verdict : Slight improvement (percentage wise), but nothing outstanding (outstanding is more than double, IMO)
Fire Emblem : Path of Radiance. Released on GCN on 20-Apr-05.
First week sales : 100,357 (Famitsu)
GCN LTD by April 17, 2005 : 3,793,268 (M-create)
% of userbase : 2.65%
Fire Emblem : Goddess of Dawn. Released on Wii on Feb 22, 2007.
First week sales :75,359 (M-create)
Wii LTD by Feb 19, 2007 : 1,586,829 (M-create)
% of userbase : 4.75%
Verdict : Slight improvement (percentage wise), but nothing outstanding (outstanding is more than double, IMO)
youngblood000
Member
apujanata said:
You are forgetting, however, that Gundam Musou's release will move 1.8 million consoles alone...
Except those consoles will not be PS3s.
Well, we still need to see if this franchise has mega-awesome legs. I'm predicting at least one more good week of sales... not Top 10 material, perhaps... more like the surprise out-of-nowhere Children of Mana legs, drifting through the lower part of the Top 30 for about a month.apujanata said:
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
As a fan of the Fire Emblem series, I would just like to see it 1 more time on the top10 for next week. Funny thing is I believe Famitsu gave it the same scores overall as it did Gundam Masou, 32/40.
Too bad Fire Emblem doesn't have the pull that Gundam does.
Too bad Fire Emblem doesn't have the pull that Gundam does.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Eteric Rice said:
OK, this response makes no sense. First you are saying you don't want the new games, you want them to focus on reusing the settings of the old games, but NOW you claim you are just anti roman numeral. And don't many of the spin offs have roman numerals? There is a difference between saying "They should stop making new series entries" and "I don't like that they're numbered"
Eteric Rice
Member
GreenGlowingGoo said:
I rarely make sense, as my mind changes sometimes. I'll clear it up, though.
I'm fine with Final Fantasy, but I think they need to stop numbering them. Maybe name them in the way that Nintendo names the Zelda series. They're all different games, but they're not numbered. The title is the same, but the sub-title is different.
Legend of Zelda: Orcania of Time
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
It's just a lot easier that way, and it just gets less crazy, especially when you have someone with new interest in the games. I would die if I walked into a store and saw that I had missed 12 prior games.
Sorry if I had confused you before. : /
Now that you mention it, I wonder if FF or GTA could have taken off in the way they did if they were Final Fantasy XIII on PS1 and Grand Theft Auto 13 on PS2. That even FFVII succeeded seems odd in hindsight, at least to me, but there might be a far greater psychological barrier to entry to many people once a series gets into double-digits...Eteric Rice said:
Segata Sanshiro
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Jiggy37 said:
I think the higher it goes, the sillier it sounds. Can you imagine Final Fantasy XXI? What is this, the Superbowl?
Spiritreaver
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Deku said:
Geez Tabris. I realize nearly everyone on the forum has never even touched FFXI, but you guys could at least fake it well.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
FFXIII could go to the Wii. The condition would be that Square makes the determination that they will not recoup their investment if they release it on the PS3, and then do a cost/benefit analysis and based on that determine that the best course of action would be for them to drop the PS3 version entirely and rebuild on the Wii. I don't see that happening. I think it's much more likely that they would go multiplatform if they came to that determination.
NintendosBooger
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bmf said:
No, it couldn't.
What I could see -- in fact, what I predict -- is a lousy FFXIII spinoff for the Wii to go along with all the other lousy FF spinoffs currently in the market.
PhoenixDark
Banned
bmf said:
Y'know, I don't think FFXIII coming to Wii instead of PS3 is very likely, either... but I also didn't think Nintendo would lose FFVII, and I CERTAINLY didn't think Dragon Quest IX would hit DS. Nor would I have believed that Pokemon would survive as a gaming franchise post-fad. Or that... well, I think you get the idea.NintendosBooger said:
Simply put, crazier things have happened, and while the PS3's lower-than-expected marketshare makes a move of the franchise more likely, I'm still not biting. At least, not right now. But yes, the possibility IS there, no matter how much we deny it to be.
EDIT: BTW, if I'm actually reading your post right... does this mean you're predicting Versus XIII to be moved to Wii instead? :lol
vanguardian1
poor, homeless and tasteless
You know, that reminds me of the 3d final fantasy battle system that we saw running on the n64......
edit : I think it was just a tech demo, not trying to cause any confusion.... my memory is very bad, but I *think* I saw the video from gamespot........ 'twas a LONG LONG time ago.
edit : I think it was just a tech demo, not trying to cause any confusion.... my memory is very bad, but I *think* I saw the video from gamespot........ 'twas a LONG LONG time ago.
Terrell said:
Why would you bite on something that's not there. True crazier things have happened, but frankly any speculation about FFXIII's fate at this point, outside of it being a PS3 title, is pure speculation, even if the PS3 sells 1 unit every week for the next 6 months.
With DQIX there were some comments made which made a move away from PlayStation 3 very likely, and people hedged Wii and PS2 with DS being a crazy wildcard choice, but it was obvious to most the day before the announcement was made that it wasn't coming to the PS3. But I'm just extrapolating GAF community sentiment in this case. I'm sure there are people who did not follow the story that didn't see it coming. So even whether there was 'surprise' or not is up for debate.
Funny, I'd say the... 50-something page thread with the DQ announcement is a testament of the shock, horror and dumbfoundedness caused all around. You can say that "if you were following the story, it shouldn't have been that big of a shock", but hindsight is 20/20, isn't it?Deku said:
Go back and check the thread in question (if possible), people who mentioned DS as the platform of choice and using the main Dragon Quest series' historic precedent of being assigned to the highest-selling platform were being laughed out of the thread, saying it HAS to come to either Wii, PS2 or PS3 because "it's NEVER going to be on a handheld, EVER".
Flash forward to this FFXIII discussion... people are proposing that SQE will move the franchise to Wii, quoting historic precedent that the FF series can change hands after initial announcement on a specific platform if the company deems that the platform manufacturer is out of touch with the modern climate of gaming (in Nintendo's case with FFVII, using cartridges and having totally Byzantine 3rd-party developer relations; in Sony's case with FFXIII, putting their console out at a pricepoint that makes it nearly unpalatable to the current market and giving 3rd-parties minimal opportunites for return-on-investment). People piss on this particular line of thinking because "FF is a graphics powerhouse franchise and Wii can't offer that" or "they've already announced it, it's underway, they can't back down now"...
So forgive me, but I can't say "no" to the idea. I can't quite say "yes" yet, but I do accept even a transient possibility that something like this could indeed happen. And who knows, maybe we'll look back on this later and have all the evidence in front of us to say we kinda figured FFXIII moving to another platform was likely to happen, as well. Like I said, hindsight is 20/20.
future_pinoy
Member
Level 5's Professor Layton sales is simply amazing. I am expecting to see Level 5 reach Square Enix status someday. I can't wait for Level 5 Wii games.
I don't think there is one clear answer to the whole FF XIII business, because this situation has never happened before. PS3 sells like utter shit. Of course we don't like it, but it's the truth. Besides that the hardware is selling low, the software sales are ridiculous, even worse than PSP's. You know you're in trouble when that situation occurs, especially when it concerns a Sony console in Japan no less. And it's been that way since launch. Even now, this week, the one game in the whole top 50 for christs sake is number 49. With this kind of game, FF main series, you can't **** around taking incredible riscs and hoping it will be alright. Square Enix is still a business at the end of the day. If the hardware sales are still bad in a year from now, I doubt they'll throw away so much money. Because, in a perfect world, almost every single ps3 user would then HAVE to be a FF fan to sell good FF numbers. Like a said before, this situation has never happened before. Especially since the competitor is making the ps3 look like shit in terms of hard- and software sales. My guess is, IF that situation occurs / still stands, that even though the series rely on incredible graphics, they'll port and downgrade the game to Wii in order to cover losses and make (more) profit instead.
future_pinoy
Member
At the end of the day, the hardware that has the most user base is still the priority of Square Enix, if the DS could reach 20 million plus units at the end of this year, which I think is possible, Square Enix will have no choice but to convert FFXIII or develop FFXIV and Dragon Quest 10 for DS.
Pureauthor
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future_pinoy said:
I'd love to say this is a joke, but then again, it's future_pinoy posting it.
future_pinoy
Member
Defuser said:Ok I seen plenty of absurd posts but this one takes the cake
So how the hell SE can port FFXIII
to this
I can agree a spin off game but port of the game? if they use story and script for it then it's not called a port at all.
future_pinoy said:
Fixed.