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Media Create Sales: 7/14 - 7/20
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Cosmonaut X
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Vinnk said:
That's really disappointing. Hopefully sales will pick up from this horrible first day, but it's such a shame to see what seems to be a great, high-budget 2D game get shafted.
_Alkaline_
Member
Wario Land NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Europe and America better make up for this travesty!
Europe and America better make up for this travesty!
Moor-Angol
Banned
Which was last 2D platform on home console and how much it sold on first week ?
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
I'm still amazed at how well the DS is selling considering it hasn't had a price reduction or new color in some time now.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Moor-Angol said:
Klonoa 2? Kinda?--33k week one in 2001.
Fady K said:OMG....and just when Nintendo finally decided to make a 2D console game
Well - this is going to lower their Western expectations (unless it was made with us in mind).
I think that anyone who wants the game needs to pre-order it today to show that there IS a market for this title and to encourage something that should be far more common - 2D games that look and play like we always wanted them to in the 90s.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Stumpokapow said:
I thought the same, but i asked cause i was not sure
Seems like 2D platforms were already a niche 7 years ago...
But considering Pawapuro 15 sales (which is priced 1000yen less than PS2 version), seems like people bought Wii basically for Sports, Play and Fit :'(
Captain Smoker
Member
first day.Haunted One said:
Anyway ==> ;___;
Phife Dawg
Member
So after getting a breath of new life 2D plattforming is dead again?
Well at least Nintendo tried. Or maybe it picks up after the first day sales? I want to believe.
Well at least Nintendo tried. Or maybe it picks up after the first day sales? I want to believe.
Saint10118
Member
Moor-Angol said:
I wonder what effect the ~120k people that just bought Mario baseball game had on stifling Pawapuro's sales.
test_account
XP-39C²
For some reason i thought Wario Land Shake was a WiiWare title, but in afterthought i think i have seen the cover art for the box a while ago if remember correctly. 10k for a Nintendo 1st party game seems kinda low, but its only 1 day though. We'll see what happends
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Stormbringer said:
Poor Wario.
Fady K said:OMG....and just when Nintendo finally decided to make a 2D console game
It is 100% Nintendo's fault to have unveiled the game way too late.
Vinnk said:
So, 2D games on consoles are dead, right?
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont know how much or how little Wario Land Shake has been adverticed, but according to Vinnk (check page 3 in this thread) it has been adverticed fairly frequently. Gametrailers.com also has some movie clips of some TV spots for Wario Land Shake, i guess that these was/is being showed on TV in Japan, but i dont know how often though.Mithos Yggdrasill said:
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/8713.html
EDIT: I see that you already saw Vinnk's post on page 3 in this thread
Moor-Angol
Banned
Saint10118 said:
Uhm... i feel Pawapuro userbase has shifted to DS and PSP, both games sold more than 200k.
On the other side, i'm disappointed to see PS2 - Wii tie ratio is still 3:1, more or less the same ratio from last year, but with same price...
Probably Mario Baseball sales effected Pawapuro, and i don't think releasing it one month before Konami's title was a smart move from Nintendo...
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
schuelma said:
Oh, they'll be back. I can promise you that...When FF13 releases :lol.
Psychotext
Member
That's a long time away. There has to be something in between. :*(squatingyeti said:
Question... What do you all think that these 1st week numbers for the DQV remake mean for the eventual first week numbers of DQIX? They're not a bomb at all, but they're considerably lower than the PS2 remake (which makes some sense, as it's the 2nd remake of DQV, but DQIV's remake did fine on DS compared to the PS2 version).
I think it means DQVIII's record opening week #s are pretty safe. I'd expect it to open more in the ballpark of Pokemon Diamond/Pearl. I guess time will tell though.
I think it means DQVIII's record opening week #s are pretty safe. I'd expect it to open more in the ballpark of Pokemon Diamond/Pearl. I guess time will tell though.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
They're charging too damn much, as usual. Wario Land would have been a hard sell at half the price, at full price it was sent to die, even with the heavy marketing behind it.
Oh look, there's another commercial for it. Seriously, 5800 yen?
Oh look, there's another commercial for it. Seriously, 5800 yen?
Horrible sales.
Pawapro 15 Wii sales are just a huge disappointment- another full year on the market, a price reduction, and its still going to sell less than last year.
Can't wait for the Fatal Frame bomba next week.
Pawapro 15 Wii sales are just a huge disappointment- another full year on the market, a price reduction, and its still going to sell less than last year.
Can't wait for the Fatal Frame bomba next week.
Saint10118
Member
Moor-Angol said:
I absolutely agree about the movement to handhelds - I was more concerned that either Nintendo handicapped its sales especially if the last two weeks it looks like mario baseball has been pulling in ~15k each or that Konami made a mistake in its release timeline.
Also out of curiosity does anyone recall pawapuro 14 first day/first week numbers?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
There's a small chance they misled you to get you into bed.Bizzyb said:
At least Fatal Frame is sort of an expected bomba, in comparison to Wario Land. Based on the GCN and DS numbers, everyone should have expected quite a bit more.schuelma said:
Unless I'm not finding the right listings on garaph, none of the Fatal Frame games passed 75k.
Code:
Game Date 1st Week 2nd Week LTD
Fatal Frame 1 2001-12-13 21,770 21,770
Fatal Frame 2 2003-11-27 42,006 8,932 50,938
Fatal Frame 3 2005-07-25 46,671 7,396 69,147Pureauthor
Member
Ouch at Wario Land sales.
Maybe they'll move it to the DS instead of giving up in disgust. I hope.
Maybe they'll move it to the DS instead of giving up in disgust. I hope.
Magicpaint
Member
Honestly I think DQVI remake is a far better indicator for DQIX's potential opening week than DQIV and V DS since that hasn't been remade once (putting it on fair grounds with DQV PS2 and DQIV PS1). DQV DS beating DQIV DS numbers alone is impressive and no other DQ portable remakes have done nearly as well as the ones on DS.Unison said:
cw_sasuke said:
It never ends with him, I swear to god. E3 must have given him recurring nightmares.
As for Pawapuro ... I think this series is actually somewhat handicapped on the Wii for a very simple reason: It doesn't use motion for batting. Don't get me wrong, the series is awesome, but the expectation was created by Wii Sports Baseball and even Mario Sluggers that motion on the Wii, particularly for as obvious a sport as baseball, is sort of standard. If it's not going to include this in future editions (and well), it's going to find itself only profitable on handhelds.
EDIT: Wario Land's sales are fucking despicable. Japan should be humiliated.
Minsc
Gold Member
Bizzyb said:
If Animal Crossing City Folk is a massive bomb (less than 1 million total lifetime sales) I will be happy. It's looking to be nothing more than port of the N64 version (with the NES games removed for a cheap looking city section), slightly updated, and for a series that brought Nintendo so much money, you would have thought they'd put a little more effect to making it feel fresh after all this time.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Based on the latest Famitsu numbers...
PS3 comparisons: After 88 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 19.9 weeks (July 15, 2000), where PSP was at 52.3 weeks (December 6, 2005), where GCN was at 94.5 weeks (July 2, 2003), and where Wii was at 22.1 weeks (April 29, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 85 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 87.1 weeks (November 17, 2002), where DS was at 68.4 weeks (March 21, 2006), where PS2 was at 96.2 weeks (December 31, 2001), and where PSP was at 147.9 weeks (October 6, 2007).
Based on the latest Media Create numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 42.4 / 57.6 bring total shares to 69.8 / 30.2. At this week's rates, PSP catches up to DS in 667.5 weeks (May 6, 2021). If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 175.8 weeks (December 3, 2011).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 21.6 / 78.4 bring total shares to 25.7 / 74.3. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 374.3 weeks (September 22, 2015).
Here we an see that the average time each system was owned didn't differ much for the first year. Then DS exploded in late 2005 causing a dip and slower growth than PSP for a while. However, it looks like PSP has been pretty flat for nearly two years now, and has actually regressed a bit since one year ago. Given that each PSP owner has had their system less time than the average PSP owner of a year ago, a lower tie ratio doesn't surprise me much.
PS3 comparisons: After 88 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 19.9 weeks (July 15, 2000), where PSP was at 52.3 weeks (December 6, 2005), where GCN was at 94.5 weeks (July 2, 2003), and where Wii was at 22.1 weeks (April 29, 2007).
Wii comparisons: After 85 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 87.1 weeks (November 17, 2002), where DS was at 68.4 weeks (March 21, 2006), where PS2 was at 96.2 weeks (December 31, 2001), and where PSP was at 147.9 weeks (October 6, 2007).
Based on the latest Media Create numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 42.4 / 57.6 bring total shares to 69.8 / 30.2. At this week's rates, PSP catches up to DS in 667.5 weeks (May 6, 2021). If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 175.8 weeks (December 3, 2011).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 21.6 / 78.4 bring total shares to 25.7 / 74.3. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 374.3 weeks (September 22, 2015).
This is something I talk about more frequently in the NPD threads, but I think "average ownership" comes into play. PSP's tie ratio was a pretty slow grower earlier on in that chart, and with PSP sales having a big boost since last September the average time a person has owned a PSP hasn't grown as much in that time. I actually have columns for this in my original DS/PSP spreadsheet, let me make an image to go along with yours...Rock_Man said:
Here we an see that the average time each system was owned didn't differ much for the first year. Then DS exploded in late 2005 causing a dip and slower growth than PSP for a while. However, it looks like PSP has been pretty flat for nearly two years now, and has actually regressed a bit since one year ago. Given that each PSP owner has had their system less time than the average PSP owner of a year ago, a lower tie ratio doesn't surprise me much.
Mr Killemgood said:
Um, if the green line is 2008, I don't see what you're saying at all. I see that this week's sales in 2008 are higher than previous years for the same week, but I don't see that this week's sales are significantly higher than general sales throughout the year, particularly compared to 2007. The numbers are very small to begin with, and it's only a couple of weeks of slightly higher sales, so it's really premature to draw those types of conclusions.
NintendosBooger
Member
Why is everyone surprised by the Wario turnout?
People didn't buy the Wii home console to play a fucken Wario game. The Wario character is an embarrassing spin-off, like it or not, whose quirky style should be constrained to the limited handheld system, unless we're now all under the opinion that a Tingle game on the Wii will sell as much as the DS version, as well.
Leave the home consoles to the big dogs, new epic IPs, etc.
People didn't buy the Wii home console to play a fucken Wario game. The Wario character is an embarrassing spin-off, like it or not, whose quirky style should be constrained to the limited handheld system, unless we're now all under the opinion that a Tingle game on the Wii will sell as much as the DS version, as well.
Leave the home consoles to the big dogs, new epic IPs, etc.
Psychotext
Member
* ignore, I have things backward * :lol
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Here's a multi-year view. As usual with these 52 week comparisons, it does mess things up slightly when the rare 53rd week gets ignored, but hey.Spiegel said:
Looks like PSP already has its second best yearly total.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
NintendosBooger said:
Oh yeah. People don't want "embarassing spin-off", but epic IPs. That's why Zelda sold sooo much. And Galaxy sold soo much as well.
Seriously: the reality is that in Japan Wii is a family system, where people don't really buy games destined to be played alone. The best selling games on the console are in fact Smash, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Mario Party. All multiplayer games. There are exceptions of course.
In addition, it is obvious that a Wario games has more problems to find its audience then a Mario game. Definitely. Anyway, seeing that Super Paper Mario sold quite well, I think that people here were expecting a little bit better performance.
A shame, because it's a quality title. Better then all Mario Party games combined.