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[BKK]

That would make sense if Vita version was difficult to develop for - but if you have assets from PS3 version it should be ultra easy porting.

Well, they also released PES6 for X360 but not PS3 and those would presumably be even easier to port between.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

those would presumably be even easier to port between.

What? No they're not.

 

[BKK]

What? No they're not.

Maybe you misunderstand? It should be easier to port from X360 to PS3 than from PS3 to Vita.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

Maybe you misunderstand? It should be easier to port from X360 to PS3 than from PS3 to Vita.

It's not easy to port from 360 to PS3 at all, which is why almost every game that is 360 lead platform ends up shit when they try to port it to PS3. The architecture is completely different. Vita was specifically designed to facilitate parallel development with PS3.

 

[vareon]

Surprised that no one is foreseeing a DokiDoki Majo Shinpan situation with Kagura Burst. The first one sold so well primarily because of the timing (after price drop, almost immediately after the MH3G announcement, and in the middle of a huge software drought), and I doubt there's going to be a repeat of such a situation this time around. The new game is clearly rehashing the previous game's engine (and reusing the models from the enemy's side -- doesn't look to me like they improved much of anything from those screenshots), so I wonder how that'll be taken as well. You also have the likely odd timing of the anime -- supposedly Marvelous' summer lineup is already filled, which would mean an October start. Releasing the game before the anime seems to run against the whole premise of using the anime as an advertisement for the game (though their aim could be to keep the momentum going and increase sales of anime DVDs).

Yeah, I think it'll sell lower than the first game. Senran Kagura's an unexpected success, and I don't think this is the right approach to follow up an unexpected success.

 

[BKK]

It's not easy to port from 360 to PS3 at all, almost every game that is 360 lead platform ends up shit when they try to port it to PS3.

Are you suggesting that PS3 to Vita ports won't be even worse?

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

Are you suggesting that PS3 to Vita ports won't be even worse?

Yes. What, do you think porting is just a matter of horsepower?

 

[BKK]

Yes. What, do you think porting is just a matter of horsepower?

As far as assets are concerned (which is what the post I quoted referred to), yes.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

As far as assets are concerned (which is what the post I quoted referred to), yes.

What?

That would make sense if Vita version was difficult to develop for - but if you have assets from PS3 version it should be ultra easy porting.

He's saying it's not hard to develop a Vita version because they already have PS3 assets, which can be ported to Vita easily due to the hardware architecture. They could not port 360 assets to PS3 with the same ease, hence why a PS3 version would not necessarily be easier to develop off of a 360 version. What are you on about? "As far as assets are concerned" doesn't even make sense.

 

[BKK]

What?



He's saying it's not hard to develop a Vita version because they already have PS3 assets, which can be ported to Vita easily due to the hardware architecture. They could not be ported to 360 with the same ease, hence a 360 version would not necessarily be easier to develop. What are you on about? "As far as assets are concerned" doesn't even make sense.

It's not easy to port from CELL to ARM either, and Vita is weaker than PS3 and X360. HD assets would be shared across X360 and PS3, but have to be downgraded for Vita. Vita is not a portable PS3, architecture is quite different.

 

[Kandinsky]

I love how some people seem to think that Vita is like a portable PS3, I mean the thing is powerful and all but is closer to 3DS then PS3 lol.

 

[UncleSporky]

I love how some people seem to think that Vita is like a portable PS3, I mean the thing is powerful and all but is closer to 3DS then PS3 lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STdtSa9kiXA

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

I love how some people seem to think that Vita is like a portable PS3, I mean the thing is powerful and all but is closer to 3DS then PS3 lol.

Except the ease of developing for both PS3 and Vita at the same time is well documented, something that Sony advertized to developers from the beginning, and has nothing to do with raw horsepower as you and BKK seem to believe. The PS3 is notoriously difficult to work with, but the Vita is not. If the PS3 version already exists, developing for Vita should be a cinch. All of the PS3 to Vita ports thus far tend to run much smoother than 360 lead to PS3 ports.

 

[evilromero]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STdtSa9kiXA

What this video demonstrates is that at YouTube resolution and with both screens shrunken down to equal size the differences are negligible. Both look good to me but one doesn't appear to be better than the other (from that particular video).

 

[Road]

Predictions:

[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City - 222k
[WII] Mario Party 9 - 222k
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City - 22k
[PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no Darling - 66k
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. - 22k
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge - 22k

 

[gkryhewy]

Except the ease of developing for both PS3 and Vita at the same time is well documented, something that Sony advertized to developers from the beginning, and has nothing to do with raw horsepower as you and BKK seem to believe. The PS3 is notoriously difficult to work with, but the Vita is not. If the PS3 version already exists, developing for Vita should be a cinch. All of the PS3 to Vita ports thus far tend to run much smoother than 360 lead to PS3 ports.

That doesn't make any sense. Vita's architecture is nothing like PS3's-- off the shelf parts.

 

[udivision]

How come no one's predictions include FE?
Didn't that come out last week?

 

[guek]

So are we expecting numbers this morning? Or do we have another day to wait?

 

[Mpl90]

The numbers will be out in less than seven hours.
On Sinobi, there are tidbits about this week's main releases ( Mario Party 9, RE: ORC, Dynasty Warriors Vs. , Ciel no Surge) Could someone kindly translate them, please?

 

[guek]

The numbers will be out in less than seven hours.

cool, thanks

 

[BishopLamont]

This year's Golden Week isn't gonna be that great, but I still can't wait for it. Mainly for Vita's numbers.

 

[Mpl90]

This year's Golden Week isn't gonna be that great, but I still can't wait for it. Mainly for Vita's numbers.

3DS could do some big numbers ( even if not DS 2006-2007 ones), I'm pretty curious in seeing the software, too.

 

[frankie_baby]

This year's Golden Week isn't gonna be that great, but I still can't wait for it. Mainly for Vita's numbers.

Which week normally has the golden week "bump", todays numbers or next wednesdays?

 

[DrWong]

Which week normally has the golden week "bump", todays numbers or next wednesdays?

This year Golden Week is from April 28 to May 5, so next wednesday, or even in 2 weeks.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090)
03./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
05./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./04. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
07./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
08./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./00. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
10./00. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)

 

[zroid]

3DS lightin' up the charts!

 

[Alexios]

Numbers are going to be very low all around I think, if 3G is #3 (or was there a reason for sales to increase?).

Dunno about FE though, just saying that Code of Princess being #2 doesn't necessarily mean it did all that great.

Though it probably did well all things considered, low budget hack & slash banking on t&a to sell like Senran Kagura.

 

[Erethian]

Hmmm, decent showing for Nintendo handhelds in the top 10 this week... I guess.

 

[Mpl90]

Famitsu Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090)
03./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
05./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./04. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
07./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
08./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./00. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
10./00. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)

YEAH CODE OF PRINCESS!!!

3DS 8/10, even Tamagotchi in top 10.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090)



And Fire Emblem "far exceeding Hero of Light and Shadow" (147k).

 

[dragonfart28]

Famitsu Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090)
03./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
05./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./04. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
07./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
08./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./00. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
10./00. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)

holy farking crap

 

[magash]

Famitsu Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090)
03./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
05./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./04. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
07./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
08./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./00. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
10./00. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)

What am I seeing? Is code of princess any good?

 

[electroplankton]

Almost Easter...

Btw, Duckroll said Code of Princess would have sold 25 units

 

[Smiles and Cries]

3DS almost had the full top ten.

Had it ever had a full top 10 alone yet?

 

[frankie_baby]

Famitsu Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090)
03./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
05./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./04. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
07./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
08./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./00. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
10./00. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)

Wow 8 of 10

 

[confuziz]

This reminds me of those 2006-2007 weeks with only DS/Wii games..

 

[Alexios]

What am I seeing? Is code of princess any good?

It's a Guardian Heroes clone with some nice looking battle animations. A bit slow looking, unless there's a hyper mode.

But it seems to have a lot of what made GH great, including the ability to play as any unlocked enemy in vs (I think).

 

[Mpl90]

3DS almost had the full top ten.

Had it ever had a full top 10 alone yet?

DS, the week of Final Fantasy III.

 

[Erethian]

If the drop for SRW was anything like it was for the first Z, MH3G could be close to 30k this week. Also I think JoshuaJSlone dun goofed.

 

[massoluk]

Famitsu Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 16 - Apr 22)

01./00. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
02./00. [3DS] Code of Princess <RPG> (Agatsuma Entertainment) {2012.04.19} (¥6.090)
03./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
04./01. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330)
05./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
06./04. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800)
07./02. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
08./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
09./00. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
10./00. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)

Wow, NDS Dejavu. What's Super Robot Wars Z doing there in Nintendo format chart.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

If the drop for SRW was anything like it was for the first Z, MH3G could be close to 30k this week. Also I think JoshuaJSlone dun goofed.

That's impossiboru.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

DS, the week of Final Fantasy III.

that must be very hard to to for one platform to take a full 10 spots

 

[jonno394]

Kid ICarus with better legs than KH3D...

 

[GhostTrick]

Kid ICarus with better legs than KH3D...

Kid Icarus having good legs means that we'll have a sequel

 

[Aostia]

great week for 3ds, overall a lot of software seems able to perform very well all around.

 

[Mpl90]

Kid ICarus with better legs than KH3D...

What's the problem here?

 

[JustAnotherOtaku]

Nice to see CoP at number two. It's a fantastic game.

 

[Salvadora]

I wonder how big 3DS hardware will be.

 

[michaelius]

I was thinking Ciel no surge flopped hard but then i realised it's data up to 22.04

BTW since golden week starts soon when will we get next data ?

 

[Kacho]

Wow, at Kid Icarus. Glad to see it doing so well. Also, 3DS games dominating that chart.