Media Create Sales: Week 21, 2015 (May 18 - May 24)

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lately a lot of games showed some legs

Sword Art Online, still into top30 since its release (Famitsu, obviously)
Pro Baseball Spirits 2015, missed just one week into top 30 since release, already best result for the serie on Vita (Famitsu)
God Eater 2 RB, re-appeared in chat this week, 16k sold since its last appearance, actually 312k units sold (Famitsu)
That's not really what I'd class as legs though, since they're not really increasing WoW but rather just slowly decreasing and due to the dead charts, they're hanging on in the top 30.

And I mean, it's still a good result for Pro Baseball Spirits, but I'd imagine that's more to do with the lack of a PSP version this year.
 

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We're seeing "legs" for a bunch of titles that we wouldn't have a year or 2 ago due to low absolute sales.
I mean, number 17 is less than 2,000.
if they keep selling doesn't mean they have legs or they must enter top30 to get the "having legs" status ?

so, according to your post even Animal Crossing doesn't have legs cause it's just selling 2k every week and we can find it into the chart just because sales are generally low
 

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Actual legs are when we see a positive WOW percentage. Steadily declining and sticking to the charts because of how pitiful everything else sells are "legs". I think we need a new term. Like feet or something. :p
 

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at least one title sold over 50K... a better week comparing to last week and it will only get better next week with Splatoon!
 
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So according to Media Create we have only a 18.201 difference between the launch of XenobladeX, a heavily marketed and bundled Nintendo game, and The Witcher 3, an open world western RPG that no japanese must have heard of before. Let's see if Geralt can reach the 100K mark before getting out of the charts.

The real breath of fresh air for May is going to be for Splatoon in next week charts, though. Constant #1 on Amazon.jp and huge preorders since two weeks on Comgnet.
 

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wow CDPR must be happy. thats a lot for a western game in japan, and thats what you get for release your game on ps platform.

nintendo really is in trouble i never thought i would see 3ds below 20k
 

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So according to Media Create we have only a 18.201 difference between the launch of XenobladeX, a heavily marketed and bundled Nintendo game, and The Witcher 3, an open world western RPG that no japanese must have heard of before. Let's see if Geralt can reach the 100K mark before getting out of the charts.
Not really.
 

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So according to Media Create we have only a 18.201 difference between the launch of XenobladeX, a heavily marketed and bundled Nintendo game, and The Witcher 3, an open world western RPG that no japanese must have heard of before. Let's see if Geralt can reach the 100K mark before getting out of the charts.

The real breath of fresh air for May is going to be for Splatoon in next week charts, though. Constant #1 on Amazon.jp and huge preorders since two weeks on Comgnet.
You exist in some alternate reality it seems.
 
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I think you know what I mean. I'm not talking about TV spots or subway ads (there was some of them, though). XenobladeX was illustrated in Famitsu on a regular basis like any big games, and got hours and hours of Xenodirect hype on the internet.

Compared to whatever Spike Chunsoft could have done to market The Witcher 3 (I saw some basic trailers on their YouTube channel), I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say "heavily marketed".
 

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Depressing numbers.Germany and France will probably pass Japan this year in deticated gaming market (UK already has).
Last week was the worst in Japan since 2001, only 235,000 video games were sold in Japan at retail. However, in the UK even fewer games were sold.

This week UK will take the lead thanks to The Witcher 3 since it had a much bigger opening than in Japan (184.000 vs 68.000)

Software Sales - Week 20, 2015

Japan - 235.000 / 12.966.000 (YTD)
UK - 220.881 / 7.146.787 (YTD)
 

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Last week was the worst in Japan since 2001, only 235,000 video games were sold in Japan at retail. However, in the UK even fewer games were sold.

This week UK will take the lead thanks to The Witcher 3 since it had a much bigger opening than in Japan (184.000 vs 68.000)

Software Sales - Week 20, 2015

Japan - 235.000 / 12.966.000 (YTD)
UK - 220.881 / 7.146.787 (YTD)
Holiday season has far bigger share of the yearly sales in west though. Digital market also has far bigger share of the total gaming market in west (In UK digital market for consoles/PC overtook retail last year).
 

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Someone elsewhere translated some Japanese comments regarding Minecraft's legs.
Japanese gamer reactions to Minecraft Vita's continued sales success:

-"disgusting"
-"That's pretty amazing considering how little it's advertised"
-"This is literally the reason why vita console sales are staying above 10k."
-"I guess this means vita is the new kid's toy"
-"it's outselling puzudora lol"
-"At this point, it's not an exaggeration to say Minecraft is a pillar supporting the vita..."
-"wouldn't it be embarrassing if the kids moved to the vita while the creepy old men stayed on 3DS?"
Pretty funny.
 
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You exist in some alternate reality it seems.
Would you elaborate ? All the Xenodirect, the weekly updates on the website, the official twitter and the trailers on YouTube weren't enough to get attention from the Wii U gamers ? What did Nintendo marketing missed on the XenobladeX case exactly ?
 

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Holiday season has far bigger share of the yearly sales in west though. Digital market also has far bigger share of the total gaming market in west (In UK digital market for consoles/PC overtook retail last year).
dude, 3DS alone is almost enough to block that from happening
 

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consoles only, probably

when you include handhelds though, lol
Last week was the worst in Japan since 2001, only 235,000 video games were sold in Japan at retail. However, in the UK even fewer games were sold.

This week UK will take the lead thanks to The Witcher 3 since it had a much bigger opening than in Japan (184.000 vs 68.000)

Software Sales - Week 20, 2015

Japan - 235.000 / 12.966.000 (YTD)
UK - 220.881 / 7.146.787 (YTD)
In units the Japanese dedicated market is still bigger but revenue wise I believe UK dedicated market is now bigger.
 

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Would you elaborate ? All the Xenodirect, the weekly updates on the website, the official twitter and the trailers on YouTube weren't enough to get attention from the Wii U gamers ? What did Nintendo marketing missed on the XenobladeX case exactly ?
The Xenodirect is aimed at a core demographic that was already aware of the game, its just neat "here is the game" marketing rather than random bullsho(i)t commercials, and a direct has less mass 'appeal' so to speak. The official twitter and trailers are much the same, they aren't things that your non-follower is going to really stumble across on a day to day basis. Nintendo marketed the game to the core gamer, and barely gave it much else in the way of public attention.

The same sort of attention has been had for Witcher, just on the western end of the spectrum, but for core players this is hardly a hurdle. The game, in and of itself, has been getting proliferated aggressively over the internet by CDPR.
 

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Would you elaborate ? All the Xenodirect, the weekly updates on the website, the official twitter and the trailers on YouTube weren't enough to get attention from the Wii U gamers ? What did Nintendo marketing missed on the XenobladeX case exactly ?
I think your statement is correct if comparing XCX and Witcher 3, the only thing in which XCX lacked was some CM support before its release, but as you said it was very supported by Nintendo in the past month

meanwhile The Witcher 3 had zero or almost zero advertising and as reported by hiska-kun, it was sold-out, so with a bigger shipment it could have performed better than it already did.
 

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what were the revenue totals for 2014?
Software (including PC, but not mobile) was about $3.5 billion.
Japan last year: £2.05 billion for deticated market
UK last year: digital console/PC £1.048 billion, hardware £0.915 billion, boxed £0.935 billion, used games £0.106 billion, peripherals and accesories £0.228 billion = £3.232 billion

Am I missing something? Does that Japanese number include as much stuff?
It doesn't say, but I don't think peripherals, used games, or PC are included.
PC wouldn't add too much, but used would be huge, if not included.
 

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Japan last year: £2.05 billion for deticated market

UK last year: digital console/PC £1.048 billion, hardware £0.915 billion, boxed £0.935 billion, used games £0.106 billion, peripherals and accesories £0.228 billion = £3.232 billion

Am I missing something? Does that Japanese number include as much stuff?
bleh I was talking about units, specifically 3DS hardware in Japan probably matching the combined total for all 5 consoles/handhelds in UK (LTD)
 
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The Xenodirect is aimed at a core demographic that was already aware of the game, its just neat "here is the game" marketing rather than random bullsho(i)t commercials, and a direct has less mass 'appeal' so to speak. The official twitter and trailers are much the same, they aren't things that your non-follower is going to really stumble across on a day to day basis. Nintendo marketed the game to the core gamer, and barely gave it much else in the way of public attention.

The same sort of attention has been had for Witcher, just on the western end of the spectrum, but for core players this is hardly a hurdle. The game, in and of itself, has been getting proliferated aggressively over the internet by CDPR.
I'm afraid I don't understand... I was comparing the japanese sales and marketing power of both games. Unless you are implying that the western hype of the Witcher 3 contributed to the sales in Japan. That's an interesting point of view.

Other than that, I was indeed implying since the beginning that XenoX was marketed essentially for a core audience (when Splatoon for example is going for a mass market) and on that front I don't know how Nintendo could have shown more of the game and hype it more than it dit o_O

meanwhile The Witcher 3 had zero or almost zero advertising and as reported by hiska-kun, it was sold-out, so with a bigger shipment it could have performed better than it already did.
Yeah, I'm not completely crazy. If someone tells me that The Witcher 3 had the same level of awareness in Japan that XenoX, something's wrong. I could even remind that XenoX was released at the beginning of the so-called Golden Week. A "smart decision" if we believe Siliconera at that time, who wanted to believe that the game would have legs, eh.
 

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Are used games included in this numbers?
Because is a big market in Japan.
Gaf user Captain Smoker used to make these cool international game markets spreadsheets with hardware/software/mobile etc breakdown and everything but he's not as active these days. Sadly it seems like the links are all dead too.
 

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Software (including PC, but not mobile) was about $3.5 billion.

It doesn't say, but I don't think peripherals, used games, or PC are included.
PC wouldn't add too much, but used would be huge, if not included.
Oh yeah. With used games japanese market would be still probably bigger. In traditional sense UK was already bigger last year like numbers show (even if you remove peripherals and used games, PC sales are part of deticated market)

bleh I was talking about units, specifically 3DS hardware in Japan probably matching the combined total for all 5 consoles/handhelds in UK
Well I was originally talking about whole deticated gaming markets in both countries =P. Maybe it got bit mixed along these multiple posts lol.
 

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Japan last year: £2.05 billion for deticated market

UK last year: digital console/PC £1.048 billion, hardware £0.915 billion, boxed £0.935 billion, used games £0.106 billion, peripherals and accesories £0.228 billion = £3.232 billion

Am I missing something? Does that Japanese number include as much stuff?
The Japanese number is physical sales only (edit: also doesn't include used games, peripherals, or PC I believe), hardly seems a fair comparison. Also have to take exchange rate into comparison, the Japanese yen has been falling the last couple years. In 2013 for example, 369 billion yen might have gotten you £2.4 billion while today it wouldn't even get you £2 billion
 

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thank god the ps4, vita, xbox one, and wii u are around to save this market from the ailing 3ds.
 

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They even have a LE vita this time, I don't think they can delay it any further.
As long as it comes out before the end of 2015, I'm not sure it'd matter. It's not like Vita has any other big titles planned for the second half of the year outside of possibly Tokyo Xanadu.

(And SaGa 2015 which we haven't even seen a screenshot of yet).

edit: I accidentally a year
 

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At least this week was better than last week. And next is Splattoon.

Last week might have been the yearly low, unless Sep. or Oct is weak this year as well.
 

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So in the US market in the NPD threads, folks have been generally saying the market contraction has already happened for dedicated consoles & handhelds. Do folks here think that's the case with Japan? Or that the dedicated market will continue to contract even further?