Trying my hand at charts. ARMS will probably fall behind 1 2 Switch by next week, Splatoon 2 is in its own little world, and MK8DX seems to have stabilized around 13k.
what's the next game we'll add to this chart?
Mario Odyssey?
Trying my hand at charts. ARMS will probably fall behind 1 2 Switch by next week, Splatoon 2 is in its own little world, and MK8DX seems to have stabilized around 13k.
Here's another look, in the next 3 weeks, the 3DS will have sold 305.8k systems. Since Nintendo is already 42k ahead of the 3DS right now, it has to sell 263.8k to stay on pace with it, and more to keep out pacing it. so it needs to average 88k over the next 3 weeks. So it'll be a matter if Ninty has the stock for it.
if Chris is right and they sell 120k next week, then they'll have to hit 73k the next 2 weeks. which may be doable. especially with the MHXX bundle and the like
I forgot the MHXX bundle was a thing
Yeah, my read on these ARMS numbers are that it'll do alright in the end, we'll probably get a sequel, but we have to see what happens going forward. Probably a B-tier franchise for Nintendo going forward ala Pikmin.
I'm genuinely surprised the Switch might stay toe to toe with the 3DS post price cut. If it gets great sales in the next two week it might even stay relatively comfortably ahead.
I reckon it won't share that position with Vita for long.So I just realized that the Switch is getting a port of a last-gen Monster Hunter while a rival console gets the next mainline game... just like the Vita
Well, a retailer claimed in a blog that Switch numbers could very well be higher than Splatoon 2 launch for next week, and the week after that is also after holiday week, so we could see 2 weeks adding to about 200k, which means Switch would almost cetainly be ahead of 3DS' two weeks after the price drop.I don't buy that, looking at the numbers. Sure, next week should be another 60k for Switch and it will have a 100k lead but the 3DS sold 190k the week after, which means it is almost impossible for the Switch to stay ahead, even if it keeps selling 60k, the Switch will definitely cross the stream of the 3DS once again.
By the end of the year we will likely see the 3DS with a good amount more sales than the Switch by then, mainly because Nintendo could produce and ship in much higher quantities for the holiday season, while the Switch is selling what is produced...
Why are you acting like ARMS isn't selling great worldwide, when it actually is ?
Well, a retailer claimed in a blog that Switch numbers could very well be higher than Splatoon 2 launch for next week, and the week after that is also after holiday week, so we could see 2 weeks adding to about 200k, which means Switch would almost cetainly be ahead of 3DS' two weeks after the price drop.
Well, a retailer claimed in a blog that Switch numbers could very well be higher than Splatoon 2 launch for next week, and the week after that is also after holiday week, so we could see 2 weeks adding to about 200k, which means Switch would almost cetainly be ahead of 3DS' two weeks after the price drop.
It really depends on what Nintendo expected. The game surely is no system seller, it does well enough for a new IP and it probably managed to sell enough to be profitable after all expenses including advertisement.
I believe Pikmin is Miyamoto's passion project, which is an important part as to why the series continues despite constantly selling just enough copies to be worthwhile. I don't think ARMS has someone in a similarly high position advocating for it, that's why I don't think it's gonna have a future comparable to Pikmin.
Honestly, I think it might get one sequel, but that's about it. Maybe its legs will still surprise me, but I'm getting the impression that there's hardly any excitement or "mindshare" left for ARMS just a mere month after launch. While ARMS doesn't look to be a flop, it doesn't seem to be much of a hit either -- I think after support for ARMS ends, we'll see the the team moving on to something else. Maybe they'll get the chance to go back to ARMS in the future, maybe they won't.
While Nintendo never stated an expectation, I think 2 million is usually what Nintendo hopes for a minimum from its bigger titles. I know they said something along the lines of a title having to sell at least 2 million for a sequel and they even mentioned Splatoon when discussing that. I think it depends how well the title sells WW and if it was entirely frontloaded. They need to start updating more frequently if they want to develop a good word of mouth for better legs.It really depends on what Nintendo expected. The game surely is no system seller, it does well enough for a new IP and it probably managed to sell enough to be profitable after all expenses including advertisement.
So I just realized that the Switch is getting a port of a last-gen Monster Hunter while a rival console gets the next mainline game... just like the Vita
They expected to make a new longstanding IP ala Mario Kart. Too early to say if they managed to do that, but so far it's doing good.
It's not even close to reaching Mario Kart sales, not even Splatoon is in reach at the moment. I own the game myself and I don't think it has the same long lasting appeal Splatoon or Mario Kart have, it's much too shallow content-wise and I would be rather surprised if that would change with DLCs. -Sure more fighters will be announced and a few new ARMS will be added but that's not enough in my opinion. -I am wondering if there ever will be an ARMS 2.
Why are you acting like ARMS isn't selling great worldwide, when it actually is ?
I said a longstanding IP like Mario Kart, not something that could reach Mario Kart sales.
There will obviously be an ARMS 2, because the game's selling great so far and should have some good legs with upcoming updates.
I have to eat crow because I never believed in Nintendo capability to notably ramp up production of Nintendo Switch so fast after barely shipping 30.000 units per week during the first weeks of July.
How do you know that? You know that Nintendos report of over a million sold was not sold through to customers but their shipment numbers(the sell-through rate might be at around 600-700k world wide I guess). It shows the market was expecting a lot of the game but when you look at the charts it isn't really holding its own there. We only have sales numbers for Japan but the charts of other regions doesn't look that much better.
Numbers might catch up once the Switch userbase increases, however at least Japan isn't looking like ARMS is benefiting much of the increased Switch shipments...
How do you know that? You know that Nintendos report of over a million sold was not sold through to customers but their shipment numbers(the sell-through rate might be at around 600-700k world wide I guess). It shows the market was expecting a lot of the game but when you look at the charts it isn't really holding its own there. We only have sales numbers for Japan but the charts of other regions doesn't look that much better.
Numbers might catch up once the Switch userbase increases, however at least Japan isn't looking like ARMS is benefiting much of the increased Switch shipments...
Fire emblem heroeswhat's the next game we'll add to this chart?
Mario Odyssey?
That's interesting, where are all the Switch coming from though? If Nintendo hasn't held them back(which would be rather strange) then they could have finally bumped up the production -or reallocated units from Europe where the Switch is just selling good(over all on par with the 4 year old PS4 I think) but is readily available.
one could even say there were.....holding back.
jk
Is the Switch readily available in Europe? Amazon france, UK and Germany do no have the Switch in Stock. I can find it in my home country Sweden, but our population is less than that of London and the Switch was launched at ridiculous high price.
Is the Switch readily available in Europe? Amazon france, UK and Germany do no have the Switch in Stock. I can find it in my home country Sweden, but our population is less than that of London and the Switch was launched at ridiculous high price.
Germany has decent stock in saturn and other stores, but it's not like it's overshipped in Europe or anything. Shipment numbers for last quarter show that Europe (or, more precisely, Other) is selling through Switches at relatively a very high rate for a Nintendo system.Is the Switch readily available in Europe? Amazon france, UK and Germany do no have the Switch in Stock. I can find it in my home country Sweden, but our population is less than that of London and the Switch was launched at ridiculous high price.
I haven't been following it too closely but DGS2 was meant to wrap up everything from the first game. I don't think it was intended to be a trilogy.
It's unlikely, why would they hold back even after the Splatoon launch, if they could have sold 200k that week, they would have done so. They might be reallocating Switches from Europe though. The best explanation would be an increased production of units but it might be too soon to expect that.
It's unlikely, why would they hold back even after the Splatoon launch, if they could have sold 200k that week, they would have done so. They might be reallocating Switches from Europe though. The best explanation would be an increased production of units but it might be too soon to expect that.
Nintendo announced late March/early April that they were going to ramp up production on the Switch. It's now August.
I do not speak Emoji, please clarify your post.
Thanks everyone for the clarification of the situation in Europe.
How has the shipping been divided so far between the regions?
Did the 3ds sell well in Europe?
Sorry for the questions about other markets just want to understand the Japanese numbers.
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| NSW | 69.686 | 105.697 | | 1.380.470 | | 1.380.470 |
| 3DS # | 61.995 | 126.790 | 27.551 | 1.161.964 | 805.564 | 23.073.377 |
| PS4 # | 52.819 | 93.954 | 16.383 | 1.137.782 | 839.367 | 5.059.398 |
| PSV # | 4.653 | 4.364 | 10.015 | 287.809 | 598.857 | 5.535.228 |
| WIU | 128 | 207 | 5.170 | 20.053 | 263.204 | 3.299.791 |
| XB1 # | 101 | 83 | 43 | 5.564 | 3.529 | 78.512 |
| PS3 | 46 | 103 | 704 | 15.507 | 37.681 | 10.273.226 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| ALL | 189.428 | 331.198 | 59.866 | 4.009.149 | 2.548.202 | 48.700.002 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 S | 101 | 83 | | 782 | | 6.510 |
|PS4 Pro| 7.627 | 9.381 | | 199.312 | | 316.362 |
| PS4 | 45.192 | 84.573 | 16.383 | 938.470 | 839.367 | 4.743.036 |
| PSV | 4.653 | 4.364 | 10.015 | 287.809 | 598.857 | 5.535.228 |
|n-2DSLL| 38.725 | 98.611 | | 191.477 | | 191.477 |
| 2DS | 2.958 | 2.980 | | 229.537 | | 526.684 |
| n-3DS | 20.312 | 25.199 | 27.036 | 740.950 | 759.512 | 5.434.939 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
They even stated that we would see the effects of the restock mid-late summer. Perhaps an optimistic prediction but I'm hoping for 100k+ for Switch shipments the next two weeks. 50-70k being the new baseline through September and October. 100k+ shipments from Odyssey's launch to the end of the year with 200k+ shipments for late November to late December. Going back to 50-70k in shipments by mid-january.Nintendo announced late March/early April that they were going to ramp up production on the Switch. It's now August.
Isn't it more likely that retailers are now seeing an increase in the shipments they are receiving as a result of ramping up production.
If Nintendo was holding back units I think they would have done so in late June for Splatoon in mid-July. Holding back stock since May doesn't make sense to me.
I know I'm late in this thread but did Splatoon 2 in less than a month really outsold both Zelda and MK8??? What the hell!?
I know I'm late in this thread but did Splatoon 2 in less than a month really outsold both Zelda and MK8??? What the hell!?
I know I'm late in this thread but did Splatoon 2 in less than a month really outsold both Zelda and MK8??? What the hell!?
Is it Nintendo's biggest franchise in Japan right now after Pokémon?
Yeah but still who would've thought Nintendo's biggest new franchise would be an online centric team based third person shooter!?MK8 is a port of a 3 year old game, Zelda has never been a monster franchise in Japan, Splatoon is.
What about Fire Emblem?Is it Nintendo's biggest franchise in Japan right now after Pokémon?
Neither Metroid game is selling more than 100k anyway.Yeah but still who would've thought Nintendo's biggest new franchise would be an online centric team based third person shooter!?
Seeing these numbers I'm worried for Metroid on 3DS and Switch's numbers. I think they won't even surpass Arms'.
Pick any Fire Emblem game and Splatoon has sold at least twice as much.What about Fire Emblem?