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There's low and them there's low.
Capcom targets:
3DS
Monster Hunter 3G: 1,200,000
Monster Hunter 4: 2,800,000
Monster Hunter 4G/Ultimate: 3,900,000
Monster Hunter X: 2,500,000
Monster Hunter XX: 2,000,000
Unconfirmed Capcom targets:
Switch
Monster Hunter XX: 300,000 to 500,000
PS4/XB1
Monster Hunter World: 1,500,000
They're (possibly) expecting World globally to barely outperform 3G in just Japan. Even Capcom (possibly) knows they're fucked.
FreedomFighter
Member
Correct. Not sure why people expecting it to do insane numbers when no up-rez'd MH port has ever done crazy numbers.
I was hoping for 250k LTD, which is pretty bullish.
TheLegendaryN
Member
It's a version. I don't really consider this a game on its own...
How much did Frontier did on the 360?
Laplasakos
Member
If you leave the Frontier games out (except the first one) and assuming the 80k number is real, then yes.
TheLegendaryN
Member
The Frontier games have versions that don't even make it in the MC top 20 FW.
Well MHF abd the village game on PSP did worse.
It can (and probably will) outsell MH3Ghd and MHP3HD when all is said and done
Laplasakos
Member
The first Frontier game for 360 (Frontier Online) did 82k first week and 267k overall, although the final number contains re releases.
Famitsu numbers btw.
Platform choice for MHW (the next mainline title) has little to do with their own awful marketing and little effort for this port
That's still not entirely clear. The analyst firm gave these out after meeting with Capcom reps directly but it's still not confirmed if the targets originated from Capcom or not.
That said I think it's suspicious that Capcom didn't give out a sales target in July. Usually that means they expect under a million but I can't imagine that's the case for a project like MHW. We'll see if we get an update in October or worst January.
Neither is really a great comparison. Both were on non-supply constrained tv consoles, one at launch and the other 5 years in, and both were ports of MH games that sold better originally (by orders of magnitude in 3rd's case).
FreedomFighter
Member
Y'all are killin' me.
You're acting like this game is a brand new AAA entry never before released ever and not just an up-rez'd port of a 3DS game that released in March.
Sammy Samusu
Member
What's so stupid about the first HD Monster Hunter and the only Monster Hunter announced at that time?
Yeah, I don't deny this as it is important too but they have to move millions of fans not 100-200k. I mean a game as MHXX won't transition a lot of people at this point since it is very expensive (you have to buy a system to play it and if you are a MH fan mainly you already has a 3DS at this point) and the game is not a "main" entry.
Gotdatmoney
Member
If 80k is indeed the number then yeah that's a...mild? disappointment.
But here's the thing- anyone paying attention in this thread would have had the range at 80K-to 125K or something like that.
So its low..but the ceiling was so low in the first place how much is it really going to matter?
Capcom could have had at least slightly better domestic sales with a better strategy and some decent western sales. But they're not.
But here's the thing- anyone paying attention in this thread would have had the range at 80K-to 125K or something like that.
So its low..but the ceiling was so low in the first place how much is it really going to matter?
Capcom could have had at least slightly better domestic sales with a better strategy and some decent western sales. But they're not.
Laplasakos
Member
Both (3rd HD and XX HD) are ports released on different systems. That's all that matters. First HD and only MH announced announced don't matter at all. What matters is that XX for Switch seems like a proper HD port unlike the 3rd HD that only got a resolution bump. They even left the PSP icons untouched.
Also, it's not like MHW announcement didn't hurt the game but it's funny how most people think it's the main reason for people not buying XX for Switch. I guess FFX should bomb when Square announced FFXI and FFXII along with it.
Gotdatmoney
Member
This isn't really a hot take though. This is just Capcom being dumb lol.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Hey, it was nice to play Capcom games on a Nintendo platform. I imagine rer 1+2 will have awful sales so Capcom can just drop the machine. Again, well done, capcpom
Famitsu numbers.
MHP3: 4,835,761
MHP3 HD: 456,436
MH3G: 1,929,477
MH3G HD: 224,986
MHXX: 1,764,401
MHXX S: ???
Also FFX-XII were all PS2 games, XX and World are on different systems. It's not like MH4 hurt 3G sales, in fact it was quite the opposite.
Laplasakos
Member
I don't think this proves anything. In fact i won't be surprised if XX Switch manages to sell more than 3G HD in the end.
Kresnik258
Member
But Yomawari is their attempt at making an IP
They messed around with all these indie-esque games and the first Yomawari was by far and a way the best selling.
But Yomawari is their attempt at making an IP
They messed around with all these indie-esque games and the first Yomawari was by far and a way the best selling.
It's not really the kind of game you can make an universe out of it to expand into multiple games. This sequel feels more like milking on those who liked the first one.
Eolz
Member
Magicpaint
Member
80k would be relatively okay. This is a port of a game that has largely exhausted its sales potential.
It's just showing all MH games aren't equal. Your insistence on comparing only 3rd HD with XX Switch is comparing ports of the best selling game in the series to the worst selling game in the series since then. That has an obvious impact.
TheLegendaryN
Member
D.Lo
Member
Exactly. An enhanced port of a previous game in the series when the next main game is already announced for that system = prologue, a 'move here and get ready' game.
Basically a late direct port of a last game in the series (being an upgrade of a spinoff doesn't help either) to the only platform without the next main game in the series = dead end. Let's say in 2013 Monster Hunter Portable 4 was announced for Vita, but 3DS got a straight MHP3 port, how well would MHP3 3DS have sold then? It looks like a courtesy game, while the future is positioned elsewhere.
Yes we know Capcom will surely have something else for Switch eventually, but right now that is what the messaging says to MH fan Switch owners: 'Enjoy your scraps while we prepare a feast for everyone else'.
Media Create
Switch 69,654
PS4 20,433
New3DS LL 11,470
New2DS LL 11,173
PS4 Pro 4,225
Vita 4,080
2DS 2,137
New3DS 430
Wii U 117
PS3 83
Xbox One 63
MHXX: 84k
Neptunia: 15k
Yomawari: 16k (both versions at 8k)
Huh, for some reason, only Switch version of One Piece charted, 4.6k.
Switch 69,654
PS4 20,433
New3DS LL 11,470
New2DS LL 11,173
PS4 Pro 4,225
Vita 4,080
2DS 2,137
New3DS 430
Wii U 117
PS3 83
Xbox One 63
MHXX: 84k
Neptunia: 15k
Yomawari: 16k (both versions at 8k)
Huh, for some reason, only Switch version of One Piece charted, 4.6k.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
rip
TheLegendaryN
Member
70k Switches is nice!
I don't think there are many of this kind of users currently with the userbase that Switch has.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Maybe the conclusion of the "test" is they can't half ass support.
If there's money to be made on Switch, it's up to Capcom to figure out how to tap into the growing userbase.
Switch will soon be the main portable platform in Japan. If Capcom chooses to ignore the platform it is at their own risk.
If there's money to be made on Switch, it's up to Capcom to figure out how to tap into the growing userbase.
Switch will soon be the main portable platform in Japan. If Capcom chooses to ignore the platform it is at their own risk.