Media Create Sales: Week 42, 2016 (Oct 17 - Oct 23)

Jan 27, 2013
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Ōkami;222536139 said:
Seems like Battlefield 1 is doing well on digital, that or SAO, WoFF and Berserk didn't as they couldn't knock it from #1 on the PS Store.

Berserk was also sold at 10% off at launch, a treatment usually saved for western indie games.

Vita version of Berserk did worst of all Vita games released this week too, so digital won't be saving Vita Guts.
So, not only Berserk is going for that bomba mark, WoFF is also going for that bomba huh.T_T
 
Jul 29, 2010
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It actually did. It was selling pretty decently in Japan before it with a few dips.

Revisionist history. I assume you were a Vita fan? I only make that assumption because that was the only group that said the 3DS was bombing at that point.
The 3DS wasn't selling all that well at launch. Sure it's a ton better than all of the console/handheld launches after it (Vita, Wii U, PS4 & XB1), but the PSP was outselling it fairly soon after launch iirc. OOT helped a bit, and the September conference is really what got it going.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Sep 9, 2006
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What's the chance of seeing Tales games on the Switch?
Wrong thread to ask about that - people get too defensive when talking about potential 3rdParty titles showing up on Switch.

The 3DS wasn't selling all that well at launch. Sure it's a ton better than all of the console/handheld launches after it (Vita, Wii U, PS4 & XB1), but the PSP was outselling it fairly soon after launch iirc. OOT helped a bit, and the September conference is really what got it going.
There is a difference between not selling that well and bombing - 3DS had no content in the first couple months which was the main reason it underperformed, eShop and OoT3D release didnt help either.

MH3G, Mario 3D Land, MK7 and co. were always planned for the first Holiday season and the system would have dominated from that point on - the price drop just made sure that there is no question about it and was essential for the western markets.

No one will call the Switch a failure if it sells like the 3DS did in its first months - which at that time was a overpriced portable, without games and a actual competitor (PSP).
 
Jul 14, 2015
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There is a difference between not selling that well and bombing - 3DS had no content in the first couple months which was the main reason it underperformed, eShop and OoT3D release didnt help either.
Didn't the earthquake have an effect? Legit asking, as I wasn't following the numbers in the first couple of months. I heard the earthquake argument before and it does seem like something that would cut a new product's momentum short.
 
Jan 27, 2013
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Didn't the earthquake have an effect? Legit asking, as I wasn't following the numbers in the first couple of months. I heard the earthquake argument before and it does seem like something that would cut a new product's momentum short.
Ahh. That is also a huge factor. As that earthquake also mentioned by Ninty that it delayed some of their game development right?
 
Jun 7, 2004
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Didn't the earthquake have an effect? Legit asking, as I wasn't following the numbers in the first couple of months. I heard the earthquake argument before and it does seem like something that would cut a new product's momentum short.
The earthquake had an effect on sales of everything here related to leisure stuff. im sure it hurt 3ds a bit especially with the way the earthquake caused in general the delays and cancelations of not only games but practically all major leisure events in the country for months out of respect to the victims. But yeah that was just a sucky time in general for anytype of entertainment in Japan.
 
Aug 4, 2012
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It actually did. It was selling pretty decently in Japan before it with a few dips.

Revisionist history. I assume you were a Vita fan? I only make that assumption because that was the only group that said the 3DS was bombing at that point.
Yes it is just vita fans.....

Please, in your infinite wisdom, explain why Nintendo cut the price by 80$ in less than 6 months and offered up an ambassador's program for early adopters.
 
Mar 21, 2014
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http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20004620.html

- Capcom predicts 100million PS4's and 40~50million Xbox One's will be sold by 2020.
- Predicts Street Fighter 5 will have long legs due to its e-sports popularity
- Capcom is a rare Japanese video game developer with a heavy focus on overseas consumers, must make games to appeal to the foreign consumers
- Talks about Monster Hunter 4 G's sales are being lower in the West compared to Japan, but is explained that it is due to the fact that the handheld market is only 10% of the dedicated video game market compared to Japan where handhelds are popular, and that they are taking the proper procedures to make sure that Monster Hunter grows overseas
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Sep 9, 2006
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- Talks about Monster Hunter 4 G's sales are being lower in the West compared to Japan, but is explained that it is due to the fact that the handheld market is only 10% of the dedicated video game market compared to Japan where handhelds are popular, and that they are taking the proper procedures to make sure that Monster Hunter grows overseas
That MH5 PS4 rumor might be true after all. Then again it could also relate to a Switch MH - but if western market growth is the No. 1 priority MH5 on PS4 makes sense.
 
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20004620.html

- Capcom predicts 100million PS4's and 40~50million Xbox One's will be sold by 2020.
- Predicts Street Fighter 5 will have long legs due to its e-sports popularity
- Capcom is a rare Japanese video game developer with a heavy focus on overseas consumers, must make games to appeal to the foreign consumers
- Talks about Monster Hunter 4 G's sales are being lower in the West compared to Japan, but is explained that it is due to the fact that the handheld market is only 10% of the dedicated video game market compared to Japan where handhelds are popular, and that they are taking the proper procedures to make sure that Monster Hunter grows overseas
I'm going to also clone this out into a new thread.
 

L~A

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Nintendo eShop Sales - Week 43, 2016

Nintendo 3DS

(+2) 01. Sabaku no Nezumidan (Arc System Works) [02.9.2016]
(-2) 02. The Battle Cats POP (Ponos) [31.5.2015]
(-1) 03. Pokémon Yellow Version: Pikachu Special Version (Nintendo, Virtual Console) [27.2.2016]
(-3) 04. Monster Hunter Stories (Capcom) [08.10.2016]
(+1) 05. Pokémon Red Version (Nintendo, Virtual Console) [27.2.2016]
(+2) 06. Cube Creator 3D (Arc System Works) [15.7.2015]
(N) 07. Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari SP (Arc System Works) [27.10.2016]
(B) 08. Elminage Gothic 3D Remix (Mebius) [1410.2015] (on sale until November 9th)
(-4) 09. Mario Party: Star Rush (Nintendo) [20.10.2016]
(N) 10. Koneko no Ie: Kirishimake to Sanbiki no Koneko (orange) [26.10.2016]

Wii U

(+1) 01. Minecraft: Wii U Edition (Microsoft Japan) [17.12.2015]
(+1) 02. Discovery (Rainy Frog) [31.8.2016]
(-2) 03. Paper Mario: Color Splash (Nintendo) [13.10.2016]
(=) 04. Terraria (Spike Chunsoft) [15.9.2016]
(B) 05. Taiko no Tatsujin Tokumori (Bandai-Namco) [20.11.2014] (on sale until November 9th)
(=) 06. Splatoon (Nintendo) [28.5.2013]
(-2) 07. Paper Mario (Nintendo, Virtual Console) [15.7.2015]
(=) 08. Super Mario Maker (Nintendo) [10.9.2015]
(B) 09. Mario Kart 8 (Nintendo) [20.5.2014]
(B) 10. Fire Emblem (Nintendo, Virtual Console) [14.5.2014]

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That MH5 PS4 rumor might be true after all. Then again it could also relate to a Switch MH - but if western market growth is the No. 1 priority MH5 on PS4 makes sense.
But there are no rumours?... Anyway, not gonna head into that split battlefie... I mean thread, ha ha.
 
Jan 16, 2007
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Hey Capcom, why don't you do a MH for the Switch...

Makes too much sense I guess, selling THE multiplayer handheld game in Japan just before spring. They won't do it will they?
 
Sep 23, 2006
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What's the chance of seeing Tales games on the Switch?
Tales has a long history of constantly underperforming on handhelds in Japan whenever they try anything mothership-like (best performing handheld Tales still is the Radiant Mythology series on PSP, the last try in Innocence R and Hearts R on Vita bombed worst of all and any Tales game). Whether this has any chance to change imo depends on how much both Bandai Namco and the Tales audience accept Switch as a home console. Maybe they'll do a Switch/PS4/Steam cross-platform release, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

Chris1964

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Dec 17, 2008
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It's selling on par with the previous entry in the end, slightly better when all is said and done even.
Berseria will sell worse than Zestiria adding all versions. It was at 342.269 with digital at the end of September. Late PS4 release gave Zestiria additional sales that won't come again.

[PS3] Tales of Xillia # <RPG> (Bandai Namco) {2011.09.08} (¥8.379) - 512.544 / 670.182
[PS3] Tales of Xillia 2 # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.01} (¥8.380) - 331.533 / 453.810 <75,60%>
[PS3] Tales of Zestiria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.01.22} (¥8.715) - 316.824 / 368.829 <80-100%>
edit: Media Create has PS3 Zestiria at 393.821, it's more clear there.
 
Jul 9, 2012
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Berseria will sell worse than Zestiria adding all versions. It was at 342.269 with digital at the end of September. Late PS4 release gave Zestiria additional sales that won't come again.



edit: Media Create has PS3 Zestiria at 393.821, it's more clear there.

Last known retail numbers were >330k for Berseria (dengeki early october) , digital numbers for first month around ~24k and it got a 20-30% discount after that.
Zestiria didn't have a digital version on PS3.

I don't think it's unreasonable to think that OG Berseria release will match the OG release of Zestiria, and if we want to add all versions then we'll have to wait for the budget rerelease of Berseria to happen (all entries in the series got, at least, one) and even in that case I see no reason for the Berseria rerelease to not match the sales of the Zestiria one especially when word of mouth has been the deciding factor for the sales of the budget rerelease this past decade (Vesperia >>> Graces F >>>> Xillia > Xillia 2)
 
Jul 28, 2012
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http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20004620.html

- Capcom predicts 100million PS4's and 40~50million Xbox One's will be sold by 2020.
- Predicts Street Fighter 5 will have long legs due to its e-sports popularity
- Capcom is a rare Japanese video game developer with a heavy focus on overseas consumers, must make games to appeal to the foreign consumers
- Talks about Monster Hunter 4 G's sales are being lower in the West compared to Japan, but is explained that it is due to the fact that the handheld market is only 10% of the dedicated video game market compared to Japan where handhelds are popular, and that they are taking the proper procedures to make sure that Monster Hunter grows overseas
Not that rare

Remember when I was mocked for suggesting Capcom would move MonHun to the PS4 and focus on the west? Good times...
The only thing stopping MH PS4 was Capcom's will, or lack of it, to invest notable money in its games. If MH PS4 is as ambitious as I think it is I would be surprised if they were handling it themselves.
 
Mar 9, 2016
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Sinaloa, Mexico
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20004620.html

- Capcom predicts 100million PS4's and 40~50million Xbox One's will be sold by 2020.
1- Predicts Street Fighter 5 will have long legs due to its e-sports popularity
- Capcom is a rare Japanese video game developer with a heavy focus on overseas consumers, must make games to appeal to the foreign consumers
2- Talks about Monster Hunter 4 G's sales are being lower in the West compared to Japan, but is explained that it is due to the fact that the handheld market is only 10% of the dedicated video game market compared to Japan where handhelds are popular, and that they are taking the proper procedures to make sure that Monster Hunter grows overseas
1-Considering it couldnt even sell 100k in its second quarter I cant see it

2- Good luck trying to chase the golden goose with a japanese property trying to appeal to the west likings while not losing the original fans
 

Chris1964

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Dec 17, 2008
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I don't see the point mixing Dengeki retail with Famitsu digital whan Famitsu has given complete numbers until the end of September. The game has disappeared from charts after the beginning the October and should have dropped at 3 digits numbers by now.

August
PS4 207.690 (186.869 / 20.821)
PS3 93.654 (90.704 / 2.950)

September
PS4 25.321 (22.305 / 3.016)
PS3 15.604 (15.353 / 251)

Total
PS4 233011 (209.174 / 23.837)
PS3 109258 (106.057 / 3.201)

ALL 342.269 (315.231 / 27.038)

Zestiria on PS4 got these sales at its first weeks
16.097 (10.449 / 5.648)
 
Jul 9, 2012
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I don't see the point mixing Dengeki retail with Famitsu digital whan Famitsu has given complete numbers until the end of September.
If we're not mixing numbers then we shouldn't compare MC LTD of Zestiria (which had a 25k higher FW) with Famitsu LTD of Berseria either.

Point is that it will end in the same ballpark and that it's not falling in the same category of "underperforming titles" than the other games being quoted, whether it will be 20k below (as you seem to argue) or 20k higher (that would be me)

I mean if you look at the other games

Berserk Musou
YW3
Dragon Quest Monster: Joker 3
MHS
Taiko no Tatsujin on 3DS
There's just the new usual musou bomb, 3 titles not even selling half what the previous episode did in the same series and and... one I'm not sure how we should categorize (MHS).

Regarding Zestiria PS4, FW sales are almost irrelevant, sales of budget titles will come mostly from their legs (or lack of) in the long term, it could end up anywhere between 30k (Xillia, Xillia 2) and 300k (Vesperia-Graces F)
 
Sep 4, 2015
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MH on Switch and PS4. If the plan is getting that western market, it seems obvious to me. It goes with what I've been saying that these Japanese franchises should go multiplat. This is assuming it is possible, of course, because the situation is complex and it isn't just, "Okay, move it to everything!".
 

L~A

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Media Create:

PS4 30,375
New3DS LL 15,151
Vita 10,392
2DS 7,103
New3DS 3,090
Wii U 1,898
PS3 610
Xbox One 335
3DS 244
3DS LL 72

100k for World of FF (both versions)
140k for SAO (both versions)
 
Aug 3, 2009
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Moga Village
MHS hold well. Hoping for a good holiday boost. T___T

It sold 100k combined on a far smaller install base than FF Explorers (which did 160k first week) came out on though.
At some point, install base doesn't matter for games like FFEX and WOFF, which have a limited audience. Install base is important for games with wide appeal.

Still, I don't see the point of this comparison.
 

DKHF

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WoFF seems to have a bigger budget and more marketing though.
Maybe so but comparing them as FF spin offs it did decent relative to the size of install base it was released for. Not like FF Explorers did way better relative to the install base it was released on. And as DriftingSpirit said I don't think it had much more of a marketing budget.
 
Jul 29, 2010
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Dengeki Online Sales: Week 42, 2016 (Oct 17 - Oct 23)

01./00. [PS4] Battlefield 1 (Electronic Arts) {2016.10.21} - 114,394 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Mario Party Star Rush (Nintendo) {2016.10.20} - 29,611 / NEW
03./00. [PSV] Macross &#916; Scramble (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.10.20} - 23,047 / NEW
04./01. [3DS] Monster Hunter Stories (Capcom) {2016.10.08} - 19,517 / 234,696
05./02. [WIU] Paper Mario: Color Splash (Nintendo) {2016.10.13} - 8,433 / 31,044
06./00. [PSV] RecoLove: Gold Beach (Kadokawa Games) {2016.10.20} - 8,230 / NEW
07./00. [PS4] NBA 2K17 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2016.10.20} - 7,593 / NEW
08./00. [PSV] RecoLove: Blue Ocean (Kadokawa Games) {2016.10.20} - 6,836 / NEW
09./04. [PS4] Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration (Square Enix) {2016.10.13} - 6,706 / 27,022
10./00. [PSV] Idol Death Game TV (D3Publisher) {2016.10.20} - 5,847 / NEW
11./00. [PSV] Suran Digit (Idea Factory) {2016.10.20} - 5,333 / NEW
12./10. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} - 4,944 / 161,526
13./06. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi (Level 5) {2016.07.16} - 4,722 / 639,242
14./08. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Tempura (Level 5) {2016.07.16} - 4,450 / 605,910
15./05. [PS4] Persona 5 (Atlus) {2016.09.15} - 3,944 / 385,153
16./13. [PSV] Minecraft: Playstation Vita Edition (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2015.03.19} - 3,867 / 886,916
17./03. [PSV] Kangokutou Mary-Skelter (Compile Heart) {2016.10.13} - 3,844 / 25,455
18./14. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} - 2,800 / 437,893
19./09. [PS4] FIFA 17 (Electronic Arts) {2016.09.29} - 2,756 / 67,054
20./23. [WIU] Splatoon (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} - 2,488 / 1,441,957
21./20. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} - 2,422 / 152,815
22./16. [3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.04} - 2,200 / 181,389
23./21. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf [Nintendo Selects] (Nintendo) {2016.03.17} - 2,189 / 107,199
24./27. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu (Nippon Columbia) {2016.07.21} - 2,172 / 64,439
25./24. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: Dragon Chapter (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2016.07.28} - 2,067 / 99,676
26./15. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2017 (Konami) {2016.09.15} - 2,005 / 85,663
27./26. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2016.07.28} - 1,989 / 100,098
28./12. [3DS] Super Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Kyuukyoku no Shinobu to Battle Player Choujou Kessen! (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.09.15} - 1,975 / 26,730
29./36. [PS4] Minecraft: Playstation 4 Edition (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2015.12.03} - 1,744 / 123,674
30./22. [PS3] Persona 5 (Atlus) {2016.09.15} - 1,728 / 102,852
31./11. [PS4] BlazBlue: Central Fiction (Arc System Works) {2016.10.06} - 1,706 / 28,855
32./40. [3DS] Monster Strike (Mixi) {2015.12.17} - 1,650 / 938,554
33./00. [PS3] NBA 2K17 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2016.10.20} - 1,627 / NEW
34./28. [PS3] Winning Eleven 2017 (Konami) {2016.09.15} - 1,611 / 51,767
35./32. [PS4] The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Complete Edition (Spike Chunsoft) {2016.09.01} - 1,594 / 37,337
36./29. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege (Ubisoft) {2015.12.10} - 1,300 / 133,041
37./31. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (Nintendo) {2016.02.18} - 1,194 / 239,596
38./39. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} - 1,156 / 2,550,709
39./07. [PS4] PlayStation VR WORLDS (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.10.13} - 1,133 / 7,389
40./43. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don Don! Mystery Adventure (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.06.16} - 1,089 / 98,636
41./41. [3DS] Monster Hunter Generations (Capcom) {2015.11.28} - 1,028 / 2,842,284
42./18. [3DS] LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens (&#12527;&#12540;&#12490;&#12540; &#12456;&#12531;&#12479;&#12540;&#12486;&#12452;&#12513;&#12531;&#12488; &#12472;&#12515;&#12497;&#12531;) {2016.10.13} - 1,011 / 4,030
43./17. [PS4] LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens (&#12527;&#12540;&#12490;&#12540; &#12456;&#12531;&#12479;&#12540;&#12486;&#12452;&#12513;&#12531;&#12488; &#12472;&#12515;&#12497;&#12531;) {2016.10.13} - 988 / 4,312
44./34. [PS3] FIFA 17 (Electronic Arts) {2016.09.29} - 983 / 16,857
45./35. [PSV] Utawarerumono: Futari no Hakuoro (Aqua Plus) {2016.09.21} - 975 / 59,811
46./58. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} - 961 / 791,359
47./55. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} - 950 / 1,215,622
48./42. [3DS] Tomodachi Life [Nintendo Selects] (Nintendo) {2016.03.17} - 906 / 59,077
49./37. [PSV] Demon Gaze 2 (Kadokawa Games) {2016.09.29} - 850 / 22,660
50./47. [3DS] Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns (Marvelous) {2016.06.23} - 850 / 217,721

SOFTWARE
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| Model | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2016     | FY(%)   |
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| PS4   | 180,504   | 44.5%    | 3,650,511   | 27.0%   |
| 3DS   | 112,527   | 27.7%    | 5,839,787   | 43.2%   |
| Vita  | 74,976    | 18.5%    | 2,082,488   | 15.4%   |
| Wii U | 23,924    | 5.9%     | 973,034     | 7.2%    |
| PS3   | 12,488    | 3.1%     | 952,736     | 7.0%    |
| X One | 1,156     | 0.3%     | 22,468      | 0.2%    |
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| Total | 405,575   | 100.0%   | 13,521,024  | 100.0%  |
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HARDWARE
Code:
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| Model | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2016     | FY(%)   |
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| PS4   | 28,862    | 45.7%    | 749,028     | 37.9%   |
| 3DS   | 15,820    | 25.1%    | 645,845     | 32.7%   |
| Vita  | 14,154    | 24.3%    | 138,139     | 22.1%   |
| 2DS   | 7,090     | 11.2%    | 67,598      | 3.4%    |
| Wii U | 1,977     | 3.1%     | 147,827     | 7.5%    |
| PS3   | 544       | 0.9%     | 27,161      | 1.4%    |
| X One | 95        | 0.2%     | 2,292       | 0.1%    |
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| Total | 63,139    | 100.0%   | 1,976,766   | 100.0%  |
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