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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)

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fredrancour

Member
theprodigy said:
but with Pachter being Pachter, he could out-Pachter himself
Pachterception, if you will :p

(although seriously, I'd be surprised if it was above 300k)
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Patcherception would be making disappointing forecasts about himself.

For example, "Next fiscal year I will make 6 public statements that prove innaccurate and be the topic of 4,500 enraged forum posts".
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
casiopao said:
^_^ I actually wanted to add Hero Bank there but after seeing how Gyro and Gaist crash and burn, I had almost zero trust on that multimedia IP there.

Also, I think Fossil Fighter is a big IP for 2014 there.(It always sells well right?)

Not really sure about Toshin toshi though. Classic rpg. Maybe around Etrian sales?

The last one I kinda can remember is only Kuroko under consideration that the series is currently one of the most famous manga from WSJ.

Hope that is helpful for u.^_^
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Thanks again.

There definitely are some things, but it just remains a bit more sparse than I would normally be expecting going into Spring.

Perhaps we'll see some announcements as we hit January and the holidays are over.
 
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Anth0ny

Member
If Wii U really does 150k in NA in November, they're going to have to do something drastic. I think Gamepadless console at $199 becomes a whole lot more realistic, because what they have going right now just isn't cutting it.

I think the number will be closer to 350k, though. Still god awful, but not sub Dreamcast awful =P
 
C

casiopao

Member
Nirolak said:
Thanks again.

There definitely are some things, but it just remains a bit more sparse than I would normally be expecting going into Spring.

Perhaps we'll see some announcements as we hit January and the holidays are over.
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Indeed. And this is actually my biggest question here.

Even if they announce more games in Nintendo Direct, I kinda feel that Nintendo already released most of its heavy hitters here.

The only sport left is Mario strikers. And Basket? Maybe some Metroid? Starfox(T_T) and these time, they don't even have Cing anymore so we won't see any of those game anymore. Last time Lost in Blue is still something like Trauma Center but once again, those two IP is more or less gone too.

I only can hope that Nintendo will take these time to introduce some new IP which is retail sizes and grow those IP into their new powerful brand.(New Elite Beat Agents any chance?T_T)

Atlus is probably going to release new Devil Children game with their Devilrizer trademark? And new Digimon series too?

There are many potential games, but I feel they are all too small or not really influential in 3DS environment.
 
S

sörine

Banned
For biggish 1st party handheld IPs yet to make their 3DS debut Nintendo still has Wario Land/Ware, Puzzle League, Legendary Starfi and Rhythm Tengoku. Tetris too in a way.
 
M

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
PES 2014 for 3DS higher than PES 2014 for PSP this week.
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However, here's the current 3DS lineup for 2014 (courtesy of GameFaqs)

January 11th
Kirby's Triple Deluxe

January 16th
Vitamin X Evolution Plus

January 23rd
Karous: The Beast of Re: Eden

January 30th
Toushin Toshi

February 6th
Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi
Puyo Puyo Tetris

February 13th
A-Ressha de Ikou 3D
Magi: Aratanaru Sekai

February 20th
Kuroko no Basuke: Shouri e no Kiseki

February 27th
Anpanman to Asobo: New Aiueo Kyoushitsu

March 7th
Doraemon: Shin Nobita no Daimakyou - Peko to 5-nin no Tankentai

March 20th
Game Center CX: 3-Choume no Arino
Hero Bank

April 10th
Crayon Shin-chan: Arashi o Yobu Kasukabe Eiga Stars!

June, 6th
Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth

Not dated yet

Mario Party: Island Tour
Yoshi's New Island
New Love Plus+ (Spring)
Harvest Moon: Link to the New World (February)
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy - Curtain Call (Spring)
Fossil Fighter 3
Super Smash Bros.
Fungi 3 (don't remember the name)
"next installment in the Youkai Watch franchise"
Layton 7
Devil Survivor 2: Break Code
Bravely Second
3DS Sonico game (as of Fungi 3)

Tell me if I forgot anything.

P.S. If you want, I can do the same for Vita.
 
H

hiska-kun

Member
[3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) (¥4.400)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/12_zpsfafc155f.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/13_zpsb1536954.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/14_zpsca732f4c.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/11_zps8694a7f0.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/1_zpsd2a51816.png

[PS3] Nobunaga's Ambition: Creativity # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥9.240)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/30_zps4b36a66a.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/3_zps0e03cd5b.png

[PS3] [360] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) (¥7.980)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/2_zpsbd8c83b6.png

[3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito no Fushigi - Jikken Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) (¥5.040)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/4_zps8bdc05cb.png

[WIU] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package <ACT> (Capcom) (¥6.090)

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/Captura_zps92644d0a.png

*Photos were taken in Shinjuku and Ikebukuro Bic Camera (Tokyo)

No stock problems for Puzzle & Dragons, when the copies started to run out, the shop assistant came en fill the shelves again with new copies.
I guess this kind of game sells more on weekends. We'll see if there's enough stock then.
 
S

saichi

Member
BowieZ said:
I wouldn't be dismissing some hopeful heavyhitters of 2014.

Besides the self-evident Pokemon Z, there is potential in Smash Bros. 3DS, Mario Golf, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Yoshi's New Island, and probably Zero Escape 3, Majora's Mask 3D, and many other first and third party games by studios who haven't unveiled anything for a while now.
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that.....doesn't seem right
 
Hellraider

Hellraider

Member
BowieZ said:
I wouldn't be dismissing some hopeful heavyhitters of 2014.

Besides the self-evident Pokemon Z, there is potential in Smash Bros. 3DS, Mario Golf, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Yoshi's New Island, and probably Zero Escape 3, Majora's Mask 3D, and many other first and third party games by studios who haven't unveiled anything for a while now.
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The only way 2014 could actually get close to 2012/3 sales is DQ&#935;&#921;. All those you mentioned are nothing compared to the mainline Pokemon and Monster Hunter. Now, put DQXI alongside MH4G,Pokemon Z and new hardware (2DS?) and we might be on to something.
 
M

Maedhros

Member
Did Tearaway REALLY released in Japan?

I mean... FUCK, not even charting on the top 50? WTF!?

I mean... I know they have terrible taste in gaming... but not even 1000~3000 copies were sold? Jesus Christ, what a massive bomba!
 
Cygnus X-1

Cygnus X-1

Member
airmangataosenai said:
Even with Pachter being Pachter, I seriously doubt he'll end up being off by more than 100%, let alone close to 200%.
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At the same time I strongly doubt Wii U's performance was just 150k during the entire month of November. Even the worse retail opinions put Wii U's spike during black friday above these numbers.

t makes more sense that 150k is the number of Wii U systems that sold during the Black Friday week. I put the cumulative performance of the previous 3 weeks between 50k and 100k. It's hard to say where exactly.

So my estimation is 200-250k, which is awful anyway.
 
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shinra-bansho

Member
Pachter is presumably just applying a 3x multiplier or thereabouts on October sales, which fits within typical Oct->Nov transition. His limited channel checks may conform to this prediction.
Cygnus X-1 said:
Even the worse retail opinions put Wii U's spike during black friday above these numbers.
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Huh?
 
Cygnus X-1

Cygnus X-1

Member
shinra-bansho said:
Huh?
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I should have been more clear. Let me rephrase that.

During black friday's week, many US retailers noticed a surge in Wii U sales that is in some case of one order of magnitude more than the sales being observed a month before. In worst cases, this was still beyond the 3x figure that results from Pachter's estimate.

It's worth noting that this doesn't imply that Wii U's sales exploded in any way.
 
S

shinra-bansho

Member
Cygnus X-1 said:
I should have been more clear. Let me rephrase that.

During black friday's week, many US retailers noticed a surge in Wii U sales that is in some case of one order of magnitude more than the sales being observed a month before. In worst cases, this was still beyond the 3x figure that results from Pachter's estimate.

It's worth noting that this doesn't imply that Wii U's sales exploded in any way.
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Any links to the reports (do they give any insight on other systems?), or is it more anecdotal?

Although even an order of magnitude increase in Black Friday week could still result in a result similar to Pachter's, if there wasn't any major uptick outside of Black Friday i.e. ~12.5/week average in Oct, 125K BF week, 37K other three weeks, sum of ~160K or so.

Although having a major software release, as well as proximity to Christmas, may cause a baseline increase for the month. (I think I put just under 200K for the prediction thread.) NPD will be interesting.
 
Cygnus X-1

Cygnus X-1

Member
shinra-bansho said:
Any links to the reports (do they give any insight on other systems?), or is it more anecdotal?

Although even an order of magnitude increase in Black Friday week could still result in a result similar to Pachter's, if there wasn't any major uptick outside of Black Friday i.e. ~12.5/week average in Oct, 125K BF week, 37K other three weeks, sum of ~160K or so.

Although having a major software release, as well as proximity to Christmas, may cause a baseline increase for the month. (I think I put just under 200K for the prediction thread.) NPD will be interesting.
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It's more anecdotal, yes. I should have mentioned that before, sorry.

12.5k/week is fair, but really the lower limit. I considered an average of 15k and an upper range of 20k-25k. The 20k-25k may appear wild, but I consider the fact that november probably resulted in a slow, exponential like surge of sales and not a sudden, week-only spike. In other words, during the first week of november sales were probably 15k-20k, then the second week 25k-35k, the third week 30-45k and black friday week around 130k-150k. Total 200k-250k.
 
T

Tenki

Member
hiska-kun said:
[3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito no Fushigi - Jikken Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) (¥5.040)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/4_zps8bdc05cb.png
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This game deserves the IMG tag:

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lol
 
R

Road

Member
hiska-kun said:
[3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) (¥4.400)
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/12_zpsfafc155f.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/13_zpsb1536954.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/14_zpsca732f4c.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/11_zps8694a7f0.png
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/1_zpsd2a51816.png
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Didn't know P&DZ was cheaper than the usual. Obvious strategy if the goal is to appeal to people who play the smartphone version.

Big 3rd party games (e.g. MH4) go for 5980 yen, while most 1st party stuff are at 4800 yen. Based on the info I have, all 3DS games at 4400 or less (excluding budget and re-releases).

Code: 
2100 - Simple Series for Nintendo 3DS Vol. 1: The Mahjong
2500 - Rayman Origins
2993 - Virus Shooter XX
3800 - Hana to Ikimono no Rittai Zukan
3800 - Spirit Camera: The Cursed Memoir
3800 - Brain Age: Concentration Training
3800 - Art Academy: Lessons for Everyone
3800 - Pokémon TRETTA Lab. for Nintendo 3DS
3800 - Nanami to Issho ni Manabo! English Joutatsu no Kotsu
3980 - Frogger 3D
3980 - Guild01
3980 - Starry Sky: in Spring 3D
3980 - Starry Sky: In Summer 3D
3980 - Starry Sky: In Autumn 3D
3980 - Starry Sky: In Winter 3D
3990 - Shanghai 3D Cube
3990 - Sudoku + 7 Other Complex Puzzles by Nikoli
3990 - Kuukan Sagashimono Kei Nouryoku Kaihatsu 3D Nou Training
3990 - Cubic Ninja
3990 - Nikoli's Pencil Puzzle
3990 - Fish Eyes 3D
3990 - Bikkuri! Tobidasu! Mahou no Pen
3990 - Ryoume de Unou wo Kitaeru 3D Sokudokujutsu
3990 - Tetris Axis
3990 - ESSE Rakuraku Kakeibo
3990 - Zoo Keeper 3D
3990 - TOEIC Test Chousoku Training
3990 - Sudoku + 7 Other Complex Puzzles by Nikoli 2nd
3990 - Imagine Fashion Designer
3990 - Shifting World
3990 - Minna no Ennichi
3990 - Funky Barn 3D
3990 - Touch Detective: Nameko Daihanshoku
3990 - Kipper no Eigo Kyoushitsu: Floppy's Phonics Vol. 1 - Kipper Hen
3990 - Kipper no Eigo Kyoushitsu: Floppy's Phonics Vol. 2 - Biff Hen
3990 - Kipper no Eigo Kyoushitsu: Floppy's Phonics Vol. 3 - Chip Hen
3990 - Jewel Link: Legends of Atlantis 3D
3990 - Kodomo ni Anshinshite Ataerareru Game Series: Sekai Meisaku Douwa Oyako de Yomeru Game Ehon: Bouken Hen
3990 - Kodomo ni Anshinshite Ataerareru Game Series: Sekai Meisaku Douwa Oyako de Yomeru Game Ehon: Princess Hen
4179 - CRUSH3D
4200 - Hello Kitty to Issho! Block Crash Z
4400 - Little Battlers eXperience: Baku Boost
4400 - Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom

LBX are technically re-releases, but are new 3DS games. Most of the rest is the stuff that died together with the DS (training games etc.) or some niche randomness.



EDIT:

First day sales of DQVIII:

Android: 1000-5000 (151 reviews)
iOS: ??? (198 reviews)

=P
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
sörine;93474688 said:
Is this a bomba then? I wonder what a 3DS DQVIII would've sold day one?
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If it's actually been populated to be viewable in the store and is advertised, it seems like a mega bomb, at least on Android.

If it's still floating in limbo, it probably makes sense to look at what it is at tomorrow instead.

Edit:

Their other Android releases in LTD (I have no idea what Day 1 are for these, so maybe they just don't sell that much up front). To note, I'm unsure which ones have been free if they ever have been:

FF1: 50,000 - 100,000
FF2: 10,000 - 50,000
FF3: 100,000 - 500,000
FF4: 50,000 - 100,000
FF4:TAY: 5,000 - 10,000
FF5: 50,000 - 100,000
FFD: 100,000 - 500,000

CT: 50,000 - 100,000

CR: 100,000 - 500,000
CRO: 10,000 - 50,000
CR2: 10,000 - 50,000
 
M

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Eh, I don't know, I suppose Square promoted it...it's DQVIII!
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Mpl90 said:
Eh, I don't know, I suppose Square promoted it...it's DQVIII!
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What I mean by that is "Have their in-app advertisements started yet," since it's the favored way to advertise on mobile.

Like someone playing P&D might get a pop-up going "Hey go buy DQVIII, it's out now!".

It's very possible they have, I just don't have a Japanese cellphone.

If they aren't intending to do that then uh... still terrible results.
 
M

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Nirolak said:
What I mean by that is "Have their in-app advertisements started yet," since it's the favored way to advertise on mobile.

Like someone playing P&D might get a pop-up going "Hey go buy DQVIII, it's out now!".

It's very possible they have, I just don't have a Japanese cellphone.

If they aren't intending to do that then uh... still terrible results.
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Ah, ok. Thanks for the explanation. Anyone with a Japanese cellphone could check if they started with in-app ads? If they have, the results are even worse
and, I don't want to hide it, reassuring for many of us :lol
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Mpl90 said:
Ah, ok. Thanks for the explanation. Anyone with a Japanese cellphone could check if they started with in-app ads? If they have, the results are even worse
and, I don't want to hide it, reassuring for many of us :lol
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Though knowing Square Enix, they will probably just keep doing this and monetize them in different ways!

Matsuda is pretty sold on the mobile future judging by their financial statements.
 
C

cafemomo

Member
Well, SE just pushed out a notification alert if you have the DQ app which tells you all about DQVIII being available and whatnot
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N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
suppadoopa said:
Well, SE just pushed out a notification alert if you have the DQ app which tells you all about DQVIII being available and whatnot
FFilNlx.png
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All right then, I'll give them a couple of days since people have to get to a wi-fi connection and then the page has to update, but I'm quite interested to see where it goes during the weekend.
 
S

Sammy Samusu

Member
P&DZ Sold Out

Bic Camera: http://www.biccamera.com/bicbic/jsp/w/catalog/detail.jsp?JAN_CODE=4560145953471

Yodobashi: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/100000001001873167/index.html

Tsutaya: http://shop.tsutaya.co.jp/パズドラZ-3DS/product-game-4560145953471/

Softmap: http://www.sofmap.com/product_detail/exec/_/sku=12191097/-/gid=GF11030000

7-11: http://www.7netshopping.jp/game/detail/-/accd/2110290014/subno/1

Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00CY9TGEQ/ (next shipment on Dec 21, lol?)

enishi said:
According to Sinobi, Puzzle & Dragon Z (3DS), which releases tomorrow in Japan, already shows shortage for pre-order. Some shops will have second shipment on 20th Dec. Sinobi predicts it will be out of stock by Christmas time...

Gung Ho is the Christmas winner this time
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This corroborates with what I've been reading too, sold out even before it went on sale.
 
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