You asked "what RPGs came out on the Wii from the big players?" And if anything the Wii fit the statement in your original post about offering a combination of new ips and old non-spinoff titles from big names series. Sales could have obviously been better though.
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Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2015 (Dec 21 - Dec 27)
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I know Nintendo likes letting devs do what they want, but they really need to step in more to make sure their published games have some sort of niche to sell to. Code Name Steam, W101, and especially #FE all feel like, at least to me, passion projects without without regard to what audiences would be receptive to.
Congrats to Splatoon. What a game and what a story. I was always optimistic about it, but not this optimistic. Mario Maker still being about 1:1 with it is its own feat. Both iterations of Mario Kart prove their legs.
All in all, Nintendo did remarkably good for what was supposed to be the worst holiday ever.
Congrats to Splatoon. What a game and what a story. I was always optimistic about it, but not this optimistic. Mario Maker still being about 1:1 with it is its own feat. Both iterations of Mario Kart prove their legs.
All in all, Nintendo did remarkably good for what was supposed to be the worst holiday ever.
theprodigy
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I can always post this again you know:
03./00. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.09.20} (¥8.316) - 33.114 / NEW <40-60%>
13./00. [WIU] Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.12.26} (¥7.236) - 23.806 / NEW <40-60%>
Toadthemushroom
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Mm. Either way its sales would have been cannibalised by the upcoming Persona 5, so it's unlikely a project like Genei Ibun Roku would have been greenlit without Nintendo in the first place due to the perceived similarities between both games by the target audience.
The only company that stood for the wiiu was really bamco. They dont even sell many games on it, but its the only one that made an actual exclusive for it (Taiko) and even tried with a couple of games, like one piece, kamen rider, gotouchi tetsudou... And localizations of Disney infinity. And they did that when the platform was dead and burried. Not a great support, but i'm terms of wiiu, it was second to none.
Well, a Nintendo developer is a major reason #FE turned out the way it did.
Toadthemushroom
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Yeah, probably a combination of last gen, and also 3DS's launch putting some publishers off. It's telling that western third party support for Wii U was much stronger.
We'd probably have seen more if Nintendo greenlit projects from other developers like they did last gen with Mistwalker, Ganbarion, Sandlot etc.
Catherine and Persona are nothing like this game. The art style is not the problem.
Besides, turning into =/= turned into.
Sammy Samusu
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So, 150k worldwide for FExSMT?
Daria Morgendorffer
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Seeing those Splatoon numbers makes me sad that the content updates are gonna stop soon.
Right, right. And they were probably more involved with 101 and Steam than I was implying. Maybe they just don't care sometimes, I don't know.
RyougaSaotome
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Having a blast with Genei Ibun Roku #FE in the first seven hours, but nobody should be surprised by those numbers. Especially on the Wii U.
nephilimdj
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Just dance Yo-Kai and #FE numbers are so weird for me, spinoffs bombing so hard
It's the same reason I'm skeptical NX will get any significant third party support up front. They've been burnt and they'll take a wait and see approach.
Also Ganbarion worked on Wii Fit U.
cj_iwakura
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Good. Maybe this paired with SMTIV's success will send a message. Pandering shit won't fly anymore.
I wouldn't say headed into that direction but more jumped into the chasm, and yeah the fandom was already primed for that in Japan and the States(hi Lyn fanboys).
It's a Playstation (4) game so yes, they pretty obviously will.
The fact that there's a Just Dance spin-off just for Yo-Kai Watch is insane to me. Who thought that was a good idea?
ArkhamFantasy
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If you make a ps4 game you really have to localize it. You increase your target audience from 1.2 million to 30 million.
France will save #FE!
#Believe!
Shalashaska161
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Wow, Nintendo really cleaned up this week. Good for them, too bad about Fire Emblem though.
Toadthemushroom
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I'm a lot more positive. Spike Chunsoft casually mentioning NX in the same breath as Steam when it comes to alternate Danganronpa platforms is an indication that Nintendo has to be doing something right. NX the platform hasn't even been officially revealed yet and we've had two publishers "accidentally" reveal games for it when they shouldn't have.
Also, NX is a platform, rather than a single system. The NX handheld will lift the NX console in terms of third party support. From everything we've heard so far from Iwata and Miyamoto it will have a unified software development environment which will make cross-platform games (and purchases) prevalent and sustainable due to the tangibly lower costs to porting and adapting a handheld game to console, and vice versa.
At the very least, Nintendo's biggest partners this gen (Atlus, Capcom, Namco, Level-5, Square Enix) will be on board.
NX probably stands for Nintendo Cross, as in "Cross Platform" and "Cross Development".
lo zaffo
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Yes, You have a point here,
but mind
- that Bayonetta 2 is a unique gem stemming from both Nintendo world and SEGA/X-BOX world,
- this is not the case for Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem #FE, SONY JRPG fans will have their regular Persona 5 in 2016 and everybody knows it, it will succeed
- that I always exaggerate with words when speaking my point of view.
I think the dances in the show insanely popular, or at least I recall a couple of articles saying something along those lines.
StereoVsn
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Not really. P5 is summer, that's 6 month delay. Instead I could see it picked up by Persona fan base while they wait for the main course.
Davey Cakes
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Yeah but it's time the team moved fully onto Splatoon 2, which is OBVIOUSLY happening at some point.
They can't ride this train forever. They need to eventually make the leap. I think Splatoon will be a key force in the success of the NX.
I will say I'm really happy that Splatoon is doing so well. Nintendo being rewarded for taking risks is a fantastic thing.
StereoVsn
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At least 35 by now most likely and yeah pretty much a given.
Probably the person who saw the Yo-Kai Watch exercise/dance Youtube video had a zillion views and didn't really ask why.
But popular enough to justify a Wii U game? Hino is smoking that good shit.
Toadthemushroom
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Good point, I keep forgetting Persona 5 is still far away.
Still, it's unlikely it would have happened even if that were true. Accounting for better sales, it's more about what Atlus/Sega/Index could have been making instead, given the time and the resources spent on Genei Ibun Roku, a large console project.
Nintendo's commitment would have made up for that, above and beyond whatever amount it would have sold (certainly nowhere near Persona numbers), and given the game's large budget compared with if Atlus made another 3DS title or something.
It does little to appeal FE or SMT fans. Also the idol theme may have turned people off. Also Wii U.
To the bolded that's not what I recall. He was talking about what systems they(SC) are developing for and he mentioned NX. But that doesn't even mean they'll be doing so in a third party capacity, they develop the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games.To the italicised the only case that's happened was Dragon Quest AFAIK. It was a one off occurence.
Also regardless of speculation as to what NX is and what that means for third party support I feel that even if it was a straight successor to the 3DS third parties wouldn't really be there on day one. They don't want to take the risk and 3DS launch burnt them bad.
Possumowner
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Not surprised at FE,sort of expecting it.The squids are unstoppable, a few re-entries on Wii U titles to.
They needed Nintendo to tell them that?
My point was when Nintendo told that to third parties. I can imagine Capcom had offered HD port of their Monster Hunter, but it never happend, so I'm just speculating.
Tizoc
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Err you'll excuse me for saying this, but the Idol business is popular in Japan so why wouldn't that appeal to more Wii U owners or consumers for this game?
Toadthemushroom
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Ah yes, you're right. Must have gotten a bit too excited there.
I agree with your second paragraph, but then again nothing will ever top this, not even a new home console announcement: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJXDOdFIs_0
Still, I maintain that Nintendo's biggest partners (Atlus, Namco, Square Enix, Level 5, Capcom) are working on NX games, or at the very least, ports of stuff that won't sell sustainably on PS4 alone. But whether we'll see many specialised exclusives is another matter. Platforms are converging and video games are becoming commoditised as every platform supports a lowest common denominator. 3DS really is the last of the old guard in that respect.
It's like you're saying every game with guns and violence released in the West should be successful because "that business is popular in America."
I think it's more likely that third parties wanted nothing to do with the WiiU, as they have shown since the system launched 3 years ago.
NX support most likely will be a lot different, with the system probably being part handheld and all that.