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[Nudull]

I believed this since he was on tape saying "I hope you get raped by a pack of n***ers".

But I'm glad to hear making a mediocre war-flick is all it takes for forgiveness in the eyes of you guys.

Oscar bait heals all wounds.

 

[Discotheque]

these latest movies definitely treating people as hilariously disposable. between guardians and force awakens i think we witnessed like a 15 billion people genocide in the span of like 30 seconds lmao.

not that I care all that much but it's odd how flippant the scenes are and how quickly the films move on.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Fans were wowed at seeing a Celestial on the big screen, not the amount of people it killed and how it killed them.

I'm talking about the third act with the Nova Corps.

 

[Krixeus]

It was about ethics in diplomatic immunity.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

I'm talking about the third act with the Nova Corps.

...

Wait, that was held up as cool? It was alright, I guess. Looked pretty.

 

[Shao Kahn on the Lawn]

Apocalypto was all candy and sunshine.

 

[hamchan]

I'll just quote the rest of the article:

He then stated: “To talk about the violence question, look at any Marvel movie. They’re more violent than anything that I’ve done, but [in my movies,] you give a s--- about the characters, which makes it matter more. That’s all I’ll say.” Fans of the MCU might not agree with Gibson's statement, considering it's the love fans have for characters like Iron Man and Captain America that have helped build Marvel Studios into the powerhouse it is today.

I don't really agree with him on his movies not being as violent or that people don't care about the characters, but I can respect his view. A lack of stakes or tension is a constant criticism that is thrown at the MCU and what Mel said isn't too far off from that.

I also won't crucify him for answering a question that was asked of him. It's not like he's putting out a statement saying "I hate thing". He was asked a question and answered honestly with his opinion, I can respect that.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

I wouldn't say its entirely wrong, but its also partly a matter of difference in kind. The MCU may treat its fight scenes as relatively bloodless affairs in spite of what nominally occurs in them, yet it also did build a movie around the idea of who exactly takes responsibility for what happens in such excursions - especially when mistakes are made. Meanwhile the most recent Marvel outing explicitly calls out the idea of treating life as something to be tossed aside when it proves convenient to do so (ie, in the form of a villain trying to kill you), and has an entire scene that's basically built around making sure no-one else dies. So it feels... ill informed as well, and picking up on a generalisation that's been said more than a few times already.

Also people caring about the characters was part of what made Civil War such a success, so...

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

I mean the complaints about that got to the point Marvel made a whole movie about it. Instead of killing thousands of nondescript minions like they always they do, they roughhoused at a empty airport.

 

[Lord Panda]

Instead of just slamming him as a knee-jerk reaction and thinking about what he's saying, then he has a point.

However, this is a criticism that can be levelled at most Hollywood productions.

 

[Gaspard]

Recently Dr. Strange

Spoiler

held remorse for killing that one astroprojected guy (although it was in self-defense) because he was a doctor meant to help people

.

Marvel movies have heart and Mel's full of hate anyway.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

I'll just quote the rest of the article:

To talk about the violence question, look at any Marvel movie. They’re more violent than anything that I’ve done

What?

...what?

 

[Gnome Scat]

He's not wrong, but it's not like MCU movies deal with sensitive material that make it inappropriate.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

I totally buy that he believes that violence has to be really graphic so there is no doubt about it being terrible. I mean, there is no beauty in dying on his films, not even for the hero. It all always looks painful.

 

[veloxStrix]

I can agree with the headline of the thread, if that was all Mel had said. I think the Marvel films are entirely without conscience. That just goes along with being entirely without any real thought or substance other than "come see your favorite superheroes do some cuhhrazzzy stuff!" For the most part. Guardians of the Galaxy had heapings of style and Age of Ultron attempted to bring some humanity into the mix - which, of course, didn't go over well with the demographic the Marvel films cater towards.

But they are hardly more violent than anything Gibson has done. The idea is laughable.

 

[Enzom21]

That's rich coming from a racist, homophobic, antisemitic, woman abusing piece of shit like Gibson.
I hope his career stays in the shitter.

 

[Frozenprince]

What?

...what?

It's like the last two Lethal Weapon's, Mad Max, and the Expendables never happened.

Hell the entire point of the Expendables is to just cause wanton violence with nondescript characters that are basically walking one liners.

 

[Dinokill]

This, I'm sorry but the real war, especially Okinawa, the single most brutal theater of war maybe in all of recorded human history, still wasn't a cacophony of blown off limbs flying everywhere, blood spurting from every angle, people being wholesale butchered like they are in a Geoff Johns comic, etc etc.

There's showcasing the sheer brutality of war and its consequences, and there's treating it like a cartoon with shit flying around everywhere at every moment.

Search for "Okinawa Battle Deaths" on Google images and Hacksaw Ridge will look like teletubbies to you from now on.

 

[Slayven]

Not enough packs of niggers raping white women for him?

 

[Gouty]

Not enough packs of niggers raping white women for him?

Yawn.

 

[DeathyBoy]

Shit just when GAF was starting to forgive him, he had to talk shit about Marvel movies

It's hilarious how defensive Gaf can get.

 

[Discotheque]

It's like the last two Lethal Weapon's, Mad Max, and the Expendables never happened.

Hell the entire point of the Expendables is to just cause wanton violence with nondescript characters that are basically walking one liners.

he didn't direct any of those.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

He's right you know.

 

[Frozenprince]

Yawn.

Yo for real? A guy says some profoundly ignorant hateful racist shit and that's it? It's just dismissed off-hand?

 

[Slayven]

Yawn.

Domestic violence and racism are boring to you?

 

[PsychBat!]

Yawn.

aaaaaahhhh shut up

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Yawn.

Nice to see yu dont care about racism

 

[Gouty]

Domestic violence and racism are boring to you?

Is that what this thread is about or were you shit posting based on his character?

 

[squidyj]

dude's disgusting but he's not wrong about marvel movies.

 

[Litan]

Yawn.

Probably hear that kind of shit in the circles you frequent all the time, huh?

 

[Frozenprince]

Is that what this thread is about or were you shit posting based on his character?

His character is immutable from him as an artist.

Roman Polanski doesn't get a pass no matter how good his films are because he's a rapist.

 

[PsychBat!]

Is that what this thread is about or were you shit posting based on his character?

YAWN

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Is that what this thread is about or were you shit posting based on his character?

Yawn.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

hahaha, tired jokes can indeed be turned around

 

[PdotMichael]

Nice to see yu dont care about racism

Looking at the comments here I don't think a lot of you guys do past using it for some knee-jerk reactions.

 

[Slayven]

Is that what this thread is about or were you shit posting based on his character?

Haha are you for real. I guess if Bernie Madoff talked about a need for banking regulation we should just take it at face value

 

[Discotheque]

His character is immutable from him as an artist.

Roman Polanski doesn't get a pass no matter how good his films are because he's a rapist.

Yeah but if Polanski brought up some criticism about a film I'm not gonna respond with some dumb shit like "Tell that to the girl you raped!!"

What mel said and did back in the day was reprehensible, but talking about his point is not "giving him a pass". It's just staying relevant to the topic.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

A lot of people poisoning the well here...

Mel Gibson may be a piece of shit, but that doesn't invalidate the argument

 

[Enzom21]

Is that what this thread is about or were you shit posting based on his character?

Is he not moralizing about super hero movies? He's a racist and he beat a woman, he should shut the fuck up about morality.

 

[Gouty]

His character is immutable from him as an artist.

Roman Polanski doesn't get a pass no matter how good his films are because he's a rapist.

Right, because being drunk and popping off on some dumb shit is the same as raping a child. Why stop there? Got any relevant Hitler comparisons?

Also, wasn't this thread about Mel talking shit on Marvel movies?

 

[flintstryker]

He's absolutely right, I still largely enjoy these movies for what they are though

 

[Litan]

Yeah but if Polanski brought up some criticism about a film I'm not gonna respond with some dumb shit like "Tell that to the girl you raped!!"

What mel said and did back in the day was reprehensible, but talking about his point is not "giving him a pass". It's just staying relevant to the topic.

What if Polanski's criticism was about Hollywood's treatment of women, though?

What then, Disco? What then?

 

[lightskintwin]

His character is immutable from him as an artist.

Roman Polanski doesn't get a pass no matter how good his films are because he's a rapist.

Not to trying to defend Mel Gibson, but they are ad hominem attacks that have no relevance on Mel's opinion of violence without consequence within Marvel films that this thread's about.

 

[Laughing Banana]

I don't care what he thinks and I never will care about what he thinks because he's an anti-Semitic asshole. Go away Mel.

Then why are you even posting in here, I don't get it, just to make the world know about how great you are or something?

 

[Azzanadra]

Meh, I think his point can be applied to the larger scope of modern media, videogames, tv shows, movies etc. However to pick out MCU movies exclusively seems silly, when there are so many examples of movies where the impact of violence is wattered down.

 

[old manatee]

The MCU would be better if the movies were more tonally honest, and once in a while the characters broke into song.

 

[PsychBat!]

"I think Marvel movies are really really violent movies"

Coming from a guy who's directed and starred in violent movies

People really don't see the connection here?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Passion of the Christ was a decent flick. I think the torture porn aspect of it gets overblown online. It was quite gruesome but it served its purpose in highlighting the shit he went through in the story. And it wasn't the only thing the movie had going for it.

I think going with a historically accurate language and also it's depiction of satan brought some cool things to the table. If it wasn't for last temptation of christ (with freaking Brooklyn Judas lmao) it would be the most interesting biblical adaptation imo.

It was highlighted long before it ended, and yet he felt the need to beat the cruelty and suffering drum for almost the entire run time. It borders on masochistic, slow motion torture and all, and it's just not particularly interesting in the slightest, regardless of how well shot it is. It fails even harder when you compare it the infinitely more interesting Scorsese film. That one actually has merit. (and there's little chance of finding antisemitism in it either!)

It's admirable he used an archaic language, I guess, I'll give you that.

 

[Litan]

Right, because being drunk and popping off on some dumb shit is the same as raping a child. Why stop there? Got any relevant Hitler comparisons?

Also, wasn't this thread about Mel talking shit on Marvel movies?

'Being drunk' 'Dumb shit'

So predictable.

 

[kobu]

Yeah but if Polanski brought up some criticism about a film I'm not gonna respond with some dumb shit like "Tell that to the girl you raped!!"

What mel said and did back in the day was reprehensible, but talking about his point is not "giving him a pass". It's just staying relevant to the topic.

Well the reality of the situation is that most people don't care to discuss his criticisms of film after the foul shit he said and you can't really blame them. Every thread about him will be filled with people giving him shit so either ya'll stop making them or deal with it.