It's sexism because the main reason why her scenes are so "unique" in the way they're framed is because she's a woman. The outfit is sexualization, the way she's treated in a multitude of scenes is sexism.
Because a)UE4 and Cry engine exist and most likely have way better documentation for 3rd parties and b)Japanese companies rarely license their engines out. I also never implied that MGSV is the pinnacle of Fox Engine, in fact iirc i've implied the opposite in other threads by expressing that I wish the game wasn't crossgen.
because people wish for less of this stupid shit in a piece of media that they personally enjoy?
Gags. Exactly. It's played for humour, not titillation. Never heard of anyone say "that's so hot". Maybe some did (some people will find anything arousing really), but the intent was still humour, not objectification.
In the world of Mental Gymnastics (tm), I'd say.
The only time in those gifs that her breasts are zoomed in on are when her chest his being shocked (which makes sense), during the water torture her breasts are either at the bottom or top of the frame most of the time.Yes because women literally burn up and start smoking when they touch salt water. And there's literally no way else to convey that her skin was burning than by zooming in her on breasts more than anything else. And yes, a man pissing himself is most definitely for titilation and not comedy. Mr.Kojima-San was definitely not thinking of sexualizing Quiet in anyway shape or form in those scenes, her breasts being the most prominent thing in the frame of her torture scenes was definitely innocent in context. Yep, no sexism here. In fact, the opposite is true.
Jesus christ the willful ignorance, do you know how long animation takes and how many iterations a scene can go through, it's so ridiculous to argue that this shit isn't on purpose.
Definitely, and there totally wasn't a backlash from the fanbase who totally didn't hate him and everything about him. Just like the sexualized male outfit from FF Mevius was accepted with open arms as the gender-equalizing thing that it was and oh wait
I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with you, I just couldn't pass that up
I guess, related to your post, for me, all of this fanservice, sexism, objectifications, etc. actually does harm her character for me, because it's so forced. Like, it's hard to take her character seriously when she's literally presenting herself for Snake, posing, erotically moaning/giggling, etc.
In film criticism, a fairly common adage is "I can see the strings". Something comes off as so forced, so contrived, that it takes you out of the experience.
When I see Quiet, I don't see an interesting, complicated character (at least, consistently). I see Kojima rubbing his chin and typing acceptance notes after his team demoed an area to him, like "move the cattle prod right above her breasts and make sure we zoom in there" "when Quiet turns around in the chopper, make sure she pauses so we get a good view" "whenever possible, introduce a female character by sexy bodypart first".
I thought the animations were strange at first until I realized she has feelings for Snake, so in a way it makes sense.
she's just locked up in a cage waiting for your beck and call instead
Except she's not locked up, she can and does leave the cage whenever she wants, she only plays along because she wants to be a part of what's going on. The only reason she was put in the cage to begin with was her connection to Cypher, it had nothing to do with her being a woman.
Playing a game on easy is no fun though, I'll just have to think I'm playing on a harder difficulty and using her is like cheating. Might make it easier to motivate me into ignoring her.
None of those are valid excuses.
That's not what happens and you know it.
Framing the camera a specific way because she's a woman is sexism. It's a form of prejudice. Sexism doesn't have to be full blown hate but I think
My post was solely about the torture scene.Framing the camera a specific way because she's a woman is sexism. It's a form of prejudice. Sexism doesn't have to be full blown hate but I thinkyou already know that.hope
I eagerly await your bad attempts to spin these and claim i'm reading far too into things.
speaking of, that's another thing that gets said in these threads.
Doesn't have to be cut and dry hate. Using the camera and poses to constantly remind the player that the woman in a bikini has ass and tits to me is a form of sexism.
Yeah leaving the menu on when I had her as my buddy made me worried people would get the wrong idea when they passed my room...
I'm aware. I'm saying that's not what happens in those scenes, her breasts are almost always visible while she's getting tortured, especially when they pour water on her. It's so exploitive and unnecessary.
To me it's sexism because the thought process behind the framing was likely a combination of "this should look sexy" and "do this specifically because she's a woman." When I see the Huey torture scene, I cringe because it actually looks painful, but I have a keen feeling that it's be very framed quite differently if say Strangelove was getting tortured for the same reason.
It's discriminatory if it's mostly done to a certain group of people, isn't it?
The only other option is showing only her face or showing only under her breasts. Breasts are kind of in an unavoidable spot for a scene like that. The only time they're zoomed in on is when they are shocking her chest, and that's to show the area being tortured.
None of those are valid excuses.
That's not what happens and you know it.
Framing the camera a specific way because she's a woman is sexism. It's a form of prejudice. Sexism doesn't have to be full blown hate but I thinkyou already know that.hope
I eagerly await your bad attempts to spin these and claim i'm reading far too into things.
speaking of, that's another thing that gets said in these threads.The trigger for the second gif is staring at her breasts for a certain amount of time, but ofc no no we're just fucking crazy and reading too into it ofc.
If it's sexist to look at an attractive female's butt I need to do some self reflection.
