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Metal Gear Solid V (PS3/360/PS4/XBO/Maybe PC) - Extended 9 minute E3 trailer

injurai

Banned
anyone know whats up with the dithering on the hair textures in the fox engine stuff, seems like something which could easily be avoided/fixed seeing as no other next gen/current gen engines seem to suffer from it. just a bit odd.

I think Kojima has a fetish for dithering, which is why it's the first thing he always makes trade offs in for his graphics.

He has designed UIs around the aesthetic before to make them feel concise with the design of the game.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
only played 3, look forward to get this rolling on a PS4. hopefull i won't miss much story.

You'll miss most of the context and residual consequences of what's happening. It's 4th in the chronology out of 10, so you're pretty much jumping in around the middle of the overall story lol
 

xASHLERx

Neo Member
It looks like Skull Face is wearing a domino mask?

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Izick

Member
I did not get the feeling that Skull Face has anything to do with Kaz reading the book.

Skull Face in the book is a snake charmer of men, using drugs to black mail the men's souls. This coupled with a mysterious power that binds them to him. He poisons all of the old secret society's with his charms, to create a new empire with him as there Messiah and slave master.

This sounds more like Zero or Gene, maybe even a new character all together.
But i think the Skull-Face in the book is hint to how the Skull Face in MGSV will be operating.

I still think it's going to be Kaz using his guile to really throw Big Boss down a path he doesn't want to go down, and that Snake is going to be fighting against this in his mind, but we'll just have to wait and see.

The way he explained it in the podcast made it sound like that's not the case. He said he knows people are gonna ask why is a sniper naked, that would only make her more visible in the desert. And he said that there's a reason why she does that, but he can't tell yet. And I think the black paint around her eyes disappearing is a hint of what her secret ability is.

You're probably right then, guess we'll know sometime down the line.
 
The way he explained it in the podcast made it sound like that's not the case. He said he knows people are gonna ask why is a sniper naked, that would only make her more visible in the desert. And he said that there's a reason why she does that, but he can't tell yet. And I think the black paint around her eyes disappearing is a hint of what her secret ability is.

I hope so, I like some weird shit in my Metal Gear.(well besides BB's stupid horn thing)
 

MormaPope

Banned
Replaying MGS2 at the moment, probably going to make a RTTP thread.

The game starts to get at its best right when you meet the president. I might just be a sucker for when a story gets expansive or bigger, but when the president tells Raiden about Arsenal Gear and the purpose of Metal Gear Ray my mind is always blown.
 

Izick

Member
I wonder if Code Talker will have any relation to Vulcan Raven.

Both seem to be Native American, and both seem to have Grey eyes.

Raven_face.jpg


Code_Talker.png


I know that every character with similarities in MGS doesn't have to be related, but I thought it was at least interesting to bring up.

Replaying MGS2 at the moment, probably going to make a RTTP thread.

The game starts to get at its best right when you meet the president. I might just be a sucker for when a story gets expansive or bigger, but when the president tells Raiden about Arsenal Gear and the purpose of Metal Gear Ray my mind is always blown.

You're no sucker. It's one of the most complex, yet satisfying stories of all time. You have to really jump in and engulf yourself in all of it, but when you do it just is an amazing thing to see all the connections.
 

MormaPope

Banned
I wonder if Code Talker will have any relation to Vulcan Raven.

Both seem to be Native American, and both seem to have Grey eyes.

Raven_face.jpg


Code_Talker.png


I know that every character with similarities in MGS doesn't have to be related, but I thought it was at least interesting to bring up.

I brought that up earlier in this thread, based on you posting the Code Talker stuff.
 

Izick

Member
I brought that up earlier in this thread, based on you posting the Code Talker stuff.

My bad, I didn't see it before unfortunately; glad we're thinking on the same level though! Those two traits (especially grey eyes) really are interesting to me though. Seems like there's something to that.
 

MormaPope

Banned
My bad, I didn't see it before unfortunately; glad we're thinking on the same level though! Those two traits (especially grey eyes) really are interesting to me though. Seems like there's something to that.

I almost wish there was a Metal Gear community thread, but community threads being on a different forum tab destroys discussion for some reason.
 

Izick

Member
I almost wish there was a Metal Gear community thread, but community threads being on a different forum tab destroys discussion for some reason.

I would be down for sure.

My problem is discovery of those threads. If there's something like a MGS thread in community, it's not that I mind going into the sub-tab, it's just remembering "oh yeah there's that Community subtab" is the problem, at least for me. There's a bunch of great communities in there, but it's just easy to get lost in the quicker pace of the Gaming tab. If that makes any sense whatsoever. (Hint: It probably doesn't!)

For me though, if someone were to make one, that'd be no problem since I'd sub as soon as it was made.
 

MormaPope

Banned
Also, expect Vulcan Raven in MGS V or in the sequel to MGS V.

As a hobby, Raven enjoyed trapping deer within Alaska's perilous Brooks Mountains. On one trip across the frozen Bering Strait to Siberia, Raven met then-GRU operative Revolver Ocelot.[4][5]

After that, he joined the Soviet special forces unit Vympel. After the fall of the Soviet Union, he was demoted along with other Vympel operatives following Boris Yeltsin's coup in 1993.[3] Raven decided to leave Russia and become a mercenary for hire, eventually joining Big Boss's mercenary dispatch company Outer Heaven. The destruction of Outer Heaven was FOXHOUND operative Solid Snake's first mission, but Raven and Snake did not meet on this occasion.

With Outer Heaven in ruins, Raven, on the recommendations of Revolver Ocelot, joined FOXHOUND himself, becoming the unit's heavy weapons/explosive ordnance specialist. During his FOXHOUND years, he excelled at using a portable modification of the M61A1 20mm multi-barreled autocannon (the origin of his codename), which is widely used on American military tactical aircraft, such as the F-16.

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Vulcan_Raven
 
Quiet: could the eye shadow be a representation of two personalities? A sort of non-literal thing to distinguish one from another? We've seen this before, kind of.

Her facial expression softens up quite a bit as soon as the shadow disappears.

Possible explanation for the torture, to force the other personality out (her stockings are still torn in the eye shadow scene).
 

Izick

Member
Quiet: could the eye shadow be a representation of two personalities? A sort of non-literal thing to distinguish one from another? We've seen this before, kind of.

Her facial expression softens up quite a bit as soon as the shadow disappears.

Possible explanation for the torture, to force the other personality out (her stockings are still torn in the eye shadow scene).

Her name actually works with that if you think about it.

One side of her is quiet, calm, and her personality subdued. The other side is a predator, ready to strike at any moment.
 
Quiet: could the eye shadow be a representation of two personalities? A sort of non-literal thing to distinguish one from another? We've seen this before, kind of.

Her facial expression softens up quite a bit as soon as the shadow disappears.

Possible explanation for the torture, to force the other personality out (her stockings are still torn in the eye shadow scene).
MGS already had a character like that.
http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/a...-solid-portable-ops-20061201022458490-000.jpg
 

Ether_Snake

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I think the zombie guys are Gekkou precursors. Biological "machine" soldiers. I think this might actually be a significant part of the story. They jump like the Gekkous.

I think the story might revolve around the idea of biological "humanoid" machines being more powerful than mechanical ones, like Metal Gear.

Zero might be doing things in Africa related to the child soldiers. It's easy to see how it could connect to Solid/Liquid, Solidus, Raiden, the child soldiers, Metal Gear, Outer Heaven, etc.

Also, no bosses seem to have been revealed so far, other than potentially Skull Face. The others all appear to be allies.
 
I think the zombie guys are Gekkou precursors. Biological "machine" soldiers. I think this might actually be a significant part of the story. They jump like the Gekkous.

I think the story might revolve around the idea of biological "humanoid" machines being more powerful than mechanical ones, like Metal Gear.

Zero might be doing things in Africa related to the child soldiers. It's easy to see how it could connect to Solid/Liquid, Solidus, Raiden, the child soldiers, Metal Gear, Outer Heaven, etc.

Also, no bosses seem to have been revealed so far, other than potentially Skull Face. The others all appear to be allies.
Hope we have some good ones, only thing Peace Walker really needed.
 

Gun Animal

Member
I think the zombie guys are Gekkou precursors. Biological "machine" soldiers. I think this might actually be a significant part of the story. They jump like the Gekkous.

I think the story might revolve around the idea of biological "humanoid" machines being more powerful than mechanical ones, like Metal Gear.

That's damn good speculation. I'll tell you what they remind me of, though... What if these guys are the precursor to Black Ninja, the precursor to Grey Fox?
 
I think the zombie guys are Gekkou precursors. Biological "machine" soldiers. I think this might actually be a significant part of the story. They jump like the Gekkous.

I think the story might revolve around the idea of biological "humanoid" machines being more powerful than mechanical ones, like Metal Gear.

Zero might be doing things in Africa related to the child soldiers. It's easy to see how it could connect to Solid/Liquid, Solidus, Raiden, the child soldiers, Metal Gear, Outer Heaven, etc.

Also, no bosses seem to have been revealed so far, other than potentially Skull Face. The others all appear to be allies.

you reminded me that its probably time for
Fox to show back up
 

Gun Animal

Member
Sounds likely, exoskeleton development. Sweet.

And mind control or something too, they've got numbers on their forehead don't they?

Numbers on forehead sounds more like clones... given how old they look, what if they're clones of Zero? and what if those clones' brains are also the basis of the Patriot Neural AI Network!!? VR Trained Cyborg Ninja Patriot AI Clones is what I'm saying here. THIS COULD BE BIG!
 

xASHLERx

Neo Member
The way he explained it in the podcast made it sound like that's not the case. He said he knows people are gonna ask why is a sniper naked, that would only make her more visible in the desert. And he said that there's a reason why she does that, but he can't tell yet. And I think the black paint around her eyes disappearing is a hint of what her secret ability is.

She could have octocam chameleon ability, insert Kojima plot devise to explain how it works.

Though it would seem a little redundant. I much rather see something new...

I would have her do something like be able to change her skins Contrast, thus altering her luminescence and pigmentation. This would make her indistinguishable when sniping, and hide her in both the shadows and the highlights of any particular environment she finds her self in.
The appearance of her race could change as well, this would add to her infiltration/assimilation in to a local area of any of her missions.
 
She could have octocam chameleon ability, insert Kojima plot devise to explain how it works.

Though it would seem a little redundant. I much rather see something new...

I would have her do something like be able to change her skins Contrast, thus altering her luminescence and pigmentation. This would make her indistinguishable when sniping, and hide her in both the shadows and the highlights of any particular environment she finds her self in.
The appearance of her race could change as well, this would add to her infiltration/assimilation in to a local area of any of her missions.
That could be cool actually.

I have a weird question, is all the upgraded character art(Hi res PW, MGS3D, etc) from Kojima lately just art or are they actual character models done on the Fox engine(or other)?
I remember hearing the promotional ones for MGS3D were, but I can't remember for sure.
for example:

just found something kinda strange
http://images.wikia.com/metalgear/images/5/50/Al6pnbDCAAAk4eR.jpg
why are they scanning a uniform & gear that is way more modern? everything else has been period correct imo
 
Got another theory on Snake choking Chico.

Could something have happened to Amanda that Snake couldn't stop, leading to a pissed Chico trying to attack Snake when he comes to rescue him? He seems to be gently choking him... Also when they're dissecting Paz, it looks like Chico's there too, so we know they reconcile.

I don't remember what happens to Chico/Amanda at the end of PW.

Bandage man, we've entertained the possibility of him being a Johnny right? MGS3 Johnny's son? This generation of Johnny hasn't featured in a game has he? He also shows his ass crack, pretty strong evidence.
 

Gun Animal

Member
Got another theory on Snake choking Chico.

Could something have happened to Amanda that Snake couldn't stop, leading to a pissed Chico trying to attack Snake when he comes to rescue him? He seems to be gently choking him... Also when they're dissecting Paz, it looks like Chico's there too, so we know they reconcile.

Yeah he's definitely not CHOKING choking him, it looks like he's just holding him down. But it's some fancy crossed-arm CQC over-complicated bullshit, like every other maneuver performed by Snake since MGS3. I think your theory is spot-on, assuming that whole scene hasn't been altered for the trailer.

I don't remember what happens to Chico/Amanda at the end of PW.

IIRC, Chico and Paz don't get a lot of resolution during chapters 4 and 5. Chico's all torn up about Paz but I think Amanda basically disappears from the story during chapter 4.

Bandage man, we've entertained the possibility of him being a Johnny right? MGS3 Johnny's son? This generation of Johnny hasn't featured in a game has he? He also shows his ass crack, pretty strong evidence.

Yes, that's been entertained quite a bit. In the GDC gameplay, though, it sounds like he could be voiced by Troy Baker. The fact that his line in the VGA teaser was Kiefer is throwing everyone off, his voice is way different in the GDC gameplay clip.
 

xASHLERx

Neo Member
I still think it's going to be Kaz using his guile to really throw Big Boss down a path he doesn't want to go down, and that Snake is going to be fighting against this in his mind, but we'll just have to wait and see.

It looks that way... I feel that Kaz is the Ahab in this somber tale, is chasing down his white whale for only revenge! This elusive leviathan is either Zero or the mysterious Skull Face maybe it's both of them. BB is the silent narrator Ishmael, and he's just along for the ride for Kas's demons errand of vengeance.
 
I hope Kojima uses the Ps4 pad in a creative way.

For example, I'd love to use the peculiarities of the Ds4 for codec communications; imagine using the pad as a sort of Walkie Talkie/Radio transmitter, picking calls up by pressing the touchpad, and the audio coming out from its speaker!
It would also eliminate the need for boring static coded conversations, you could just listen to it while playing.

I think we should just twitter this shit to Kojima or something.
 
I just wish Kojima productions could go out with more clear information about this title. I want to know how the PS4 version will look like. Cause what we hav seen so far is for PS3 right?
 

Yen

Member
I just wish Kojima productions could go out with more clear information about this title. I want to know how the PS4 version will look like. Cause what we hav seen so far is for PS3 right?
PC running on PS3 specs, so expect a current gen downgrade, and a next gen upgrade.
 
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