I think you guys will be sorely disappointed when you see the game running on a PS3 or 360.
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Metal Gear Solid V (PS3/360/PS4/XBO/Maybe PC) - Extended 9 minute E3 trailer
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I think you guys will be sorely disappointed when you see the game running on a PS3 or 360.
I'm not thinking he's lying, I think things are being lost in translation. People are coming off reading these interviews with the idea that the game that they will be playing is exactly what was shown at the MS conference in terms of graphics.
SolidSnakex
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Kojima didn't actually say it will look 100% exactly like that on current gen. He said they're using this version as a "guideline" for the current gen. He also said in the GDC interview that the game won't look like that on the current gen.
It will look really good on next gen though.
ed: But the current gen version may become one of the best looking titles for PS3 and 360.
I dont think hes lying...just optimistic. I would love to be wrong, though.
SJRB
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Of course, it was a trailer.
I think some people are certainly expecting the PS3/360 version to look like that.
He was pretty clear about that.
Like Mr. Kojma!
In all seriousess though, I just want it to be somewhat close to that and I'll be fine.
bodyofanamerican
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Something I learned today: Do NOT google "Stefanie Joosten metal gear" and then click on the first link.
From Kojima's blog.
Yeah, Stephanie Joosten from Holland. She's featured in this week's Hideradio.
PS: Is Hideradio becoming more and more perverted nowadays, with all those moans and sex talks ?
He believes his own hype sometimes. I remember when MGS 3 was supposed to be a massive jungle.
I mean, what they showed us isnt totally and completely mind blowing when you compare it to whats out on PC and next gen...but I still feel like its too smooth and crisp and "together" for current gen. When it releases, I fully expect more jaggies, sub 30 FPS drops, and VSYNC problems depending on the system.
And again, Id love to be wrong.
You know I really hope people don't call him Snake anymore in this game, at the end of Peace Walker he made it very clear "From now on call me Big Boss." He even threw away The Boss's bandanna, which as you can see is absent in the trailer. So people better stop saying "Snake" and start saying "BOSS!"
But he's Punished Snake now.
Yeah, that's a fair point. I was really just joking but I really do respect that Kojima is at least trying to aim what we saw for the current consoles.
Yeah, I'm hoping that we get something close to what we saw. I know it's going to be difficult, but the difference this time is that Kojima isn't really just saying things, he's showing things. Not to mention he actually knows the specs of the PS360, instead of like what happened on the PS3 early on.
I don't know, I guess we'll just have to wait for more.
EDIT: I like Punished Snake. I don't think we'll hear that become like a real name though, maybe it'll be thrown around a few times like Old Snake. I like how blatant Kojima is with the names Snake gets.
I kinda believe him this time around... part of me hopes that this game is going to be the swan song of this generation, and partly because I remember him showing a sneak peak of the engine working on 2010 with a kid in the middle of a jungle that looked great, and when he was asked about it, he said it was running realtime on ps3 but he couldn't talk what it was about...
Can't remember the exact time or date, but the interview was about the recently revealed Metal Gear Solid: Rising (on the MS conference) and the MGS
W revealed for PSP con the Sony conference....So yeah, I kinda believe him... but knowing from past games, I expect a dip or two in frame rate every now and then... nothing I won't forvige..
Edit: Might have been a few months after showing Rising for the first time in 2011 in the MS Conference
StanTowers
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So, was the game called 'Project Ogre' due to the goal of it being to basically slowly but surely turn Big Boss into the "monster" and villain we'd all come to see him as today? Obviously we'll know there's more to the story, and we'll get to see this "Ogre's" turmoil and inner-pain, but that's what I'm thinking.
I kinda believe him this time around... part of me hopes that this game is going to be the swan song of this generation, and partly because I remember him showing a sneak peak of the engine working on 2010 with a kid in the middle of a jungle that looked great, and when he was asked about it, he said it was running realtime on ps3 but he couldn't talk what it was about...
Can't remember the exact time or date, but the interview was about the recently revealed Metal Gear Solid: Rising (on the MS conference) and the MGS
So yeah, I kinda believe him... but knowing from past games, I expect a dip or two in frame rate every now and then... nothing I won't forvige..
Edit: Might have been a few months after showing Rising for the first time in 2011 in the MS Conference
I believe it was the E3 2011 video where he first showed off Fox Engine. He also announced the MGS and ZOE collections.
Did anyone checked if the X-Ray pics of the trailers combined together form a picture or something?
I was just watching the trailer in my cellphone, and the though caught me...
It's Kojima, so something can be hidden there..
Also, "More powerfull than metal gear?"
I thinks its VR trainnig, the "Solid" series has been more than keen on the subjetc...and there are those viral videos released on GT after the first interview between Geoff and Joakim Morgen, which hinted a lot to VR Trainning
I was just watching the trailer in my cellphone, and the though caught me...
It's Kojima, so something can be hidden there..
Also, "More powerfull than metal gear?"
I thinks its VR trainnig, the "Solid" series has been more than keen on the subjetc...and there are those viral videos released on GT after the first interview between Geoff and Joakim Morgen, which hinted a lot to VR Trainning
GT5 had quite a lot of that, particularly on grass (ah and thanks, i was looking at the term: "dithering". Completely forget how that was called).
EatChildren
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I suspect MGSV Xbone/PS4 will look better, but also not a drastic, game changing overhaul. Just as I expect the demo'd PC build "targeting current gen platforms" to take a big hit to the IQ when we actually see the 360/PS4 version. End of the day, MGSV is still a cross generation game, and I think it will show much in the same way it does for Watch_Dogs.
You know what's funny? MGS V looks to be a complete and total polar opposite of MGS4.
Instead of relying on old staples and tying things up, Kojima is getting completely new VO's for old characters and making a fairly secluded story that will likely blossom new questions about the franchise.
Instead of creating an engine for unknown tech, he's building an engine from the ground up that looks great on current-gen consoles, and will be ported over to the next-gen to look and play even better.
Instead of the more standard, linear levels, or at least levels with a small bit of openness, he's creating fully open levels where you can go seemingly anywhere.
Instead of an old hero that's ending his final note as a some paragon of virtue, we're seeing the young beginnings of a true villain that has lasting impacts on the story.
Instead of being locked to one platform, it's on almost all that can handle it.
It even ditches the traditional numbers for Roman numerals.
Instead of relying on old staples and tying things up, Kojima is getting completely new VO's for old characters and making a fairly secluded story that will likely blossom new questions about the franchise.
Instead of creating an engine for unknown tech, he's building an engine from the ground up that looks great on current-gen consoles, and will be ported over to the next-gen to look and play even better.
Instead of the more standard, linear levels, or at least levels with a small bit of openness, he's creating fully open levels where you can go seemingly anywhere.
Instead of an old hero that's ending his final note as a some paragon of virtue, we're seeing the young beginnings of a true villain that has lasting impacts on the story.
Instead of being locked to one platform, it's on almost all that can handle it.
It even ditches the traditional numbers for Roman numerals.
bodyofanamerican
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I'm convinced there's a story reason for this. Just no idea what.
Graphics Horse
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Hm not seen that one, thanks.
'Approved for all audiences'
Shows two people graphically killed.
Whatever the hell 'V has come to' means.
Peace symbol is my guess.
Also to the assholes complaining about her being in a bikini out of context, here ya go:
She wears a uniform!!!!
Yeah, I suspected we were just seeing her after she's tortured by Ocelot and crew due to the rips in the pants especially. Even so, if you're on top of a fucking building in the middle of an extremely hot area waiting for a target(s), then you might want to go lighter on the clothing.
Razgriz-Specter
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Also to the assholes complaining about her being in a bikini out of context, here ya go:
She wears a uniform!!!!
Looks badass, can't wait.
It already looks great anyway.
Artistic direction is superb.
What's going on here? She's not wearing a mocap suit, so are they scanning her outfit or what?Also to the assholes complaining about her being in a bikini out of context, here ya go:
She wears a uniform!!!!
I think I remember from their Fox Engine panel at GDC that they can kind of just scan shit in.
This whole Ground Zeroes / Phantom Pain thing still confuses me. Was the VO in that GDC gameplay demo just interim? I mean the guy voiced by Kiefer helping Big Boss escape can't possibly be Solid Snake. Wasn't Solid cloned and born shortly after Big Boss fell into his coma? By that timeline Solid would be nine years old when Big Boss wakes up in that hospital.
Razgriz-Specter
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She is the face and body model, along with facial & body mocap and VO,It already looks great anyway.
Artistic direction is superb.
What's going on here? She's not wearing a mocap suit, so are they scanning her outfit or what?
probably getting a scan with the uniform on because the mocap suits are skin tight.
(why even go through the trouble of scanning her if they were just going to cover up her body with traditionally done clothes.)
I think there is another pic of her getting scanned or whatever in the bikini.
There's some great analysis coming from Kotaku. Main points of interest.
- The biblical connotations of the names David and Eli. We know that Solid Snake's name is David. This lends more credence to Eli being
. PerhapsLiquid Snake.all 8 embryo's were given the names of prophets. I mean, the name Samuel just suits Solidus Snake so well.
- That perhaps Quiet is Kurdish. Sniper Wolf could end up being her daughter, or little sister, that Big Boss trains. Apparently it is not uncommon for people to flee from Kurdistan to Afghanistan during conflicts.
- That the package taken from
body apparently has a blinking light, which further solidifies it as either a transmitter or a bomb.Paz's
33-Hit-Combo
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^ I think for less major characters, it would simply be better if we got new faces. Somebody already mentioned before that everybody in the MG universe is related to somebody or another by heritage!
Pyscho Mantis burnt down his home village right? Did he burn it down with a demonic apparition...?
Pyscho Mantis burnt down his home village right? Did he burn it down with a demonic apparition...?
The fuck was that blog background.
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