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Metro 2033
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dolemite said:
From what I can tell, there's nothing on the German Gamepro sight even mentioning this review, as they don't even have a written one up (much less a score). Which just leads me to believe that this review was just "leaked" early (Youtube pretty much gave that away
) and the embargo is still up. And this video only serves to remind me how much my four years of German in high school have completely evacuated my brain. Sad.
wolfmat
Confirmed Asshole
Campaign is 7hrsdolemite said:
Gripping atmosphere
Monsters are easy at the beginning
Not that many firefights at the beginning
Game is very linear
Simple tasks
Sneaking is an option at some points
Cover is important
AI is so-so, but they hit very well
Turret sections freshen the game up
Buy weapons with bullets, some ammunition is worth more
The outside levels are beautiful, but somewhat monotone
Gasmasks can be destroyed, which is fatal outside
Game's key feature is atmosphere, with lighting and sound design et cetera
Very good graphics, especially in the lights and particles department
Play it with a sound system beyond stereo, worth it
German localization sucks ass, the russian accent is awful
Story is awesome
Scenario is really fresh
Bottomline: Thumbs up
TheVampire
Banned
^ Sounding good!
Neuromancer
Member
Schade.Loxley said:
wolfmat
Confirmed Asshole
Realtime binaural sound is not a feature of the game, I think. With stereo headphones, you get the same spacial fidelity as with a stereo sound system.Tokubetsu said:
has everyone seen the Gamestop pre-order exclusive bullshit yet?
good for Metro! (shit for people who like choice)
$50 is a surprise though. not bad.
good for Metro! (shit for people who like choice)
$50 is a surprise though. not bad.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Does anyone know how long this game is going to be?
I hope it's long as Fallout 3. It looks really interesting and something I'd enjoy.
I hope it's long as Fallout 3. It looks really interesting and something I'd enjoy.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Drats, never mind, the question of length was answered...and disappointingly so.
7 hrs? *sad emoticon*
I don't know anymore. I don't know if I want to bust out $60 for a short game no matter how good it is. I skipped Dante's Inferno because of the length.
Maybe when it's cheaper. I hate saying that but $60 is too much for a 7hr game where in this day and age multiplayer is key to a value of a game.
I can handle MW2 or Battlefield Bad Company 2 having short single player campaigns because of multiplayer for example.
7 hrs? *sad emoticon*
I don't know anymore. I don't know if I want to bust out $60 for a short game no matter how good it is. I skipped Dante's Inferno because of the length.
Maybe when it's cheaper. I hate saying that but $60 is too much for a 7hr game where in this day and age multiplayer is key to a value of a game.
I can handle MW2 or Battlefield Bad Company 2 having short single player campaigns because of multiplayer for example.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
7 hours is enough for me. I prefer games to be around 10 hours and not more than 15, but 7 is on the very edge of being acceptable for a full-price release.
wormstrangler
Banned
7 hours is perfect. Not sure what you guys are bitching about.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I was expecting Fallout 3 type of epic goodness or like Borderlands.wormstrangler said:
Metro looks great but it I wish it was longer.
wormstrangler said:
did you forget to include in your opinion?
anyway it may be perfectly fine for this game it may not be, however, to me 7 hours isn't worth $60 (especially w/ no MP). I am still genuinely interested in the title though so that's why I'm still gonna rent it from GF.
Spring Break is next week will be a good way to relax and spend a day or so to complete it.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
TheFLYINGManga_Ka said:
Why? It was always pitched as a linear story-based shooter.
TheVampire
Banned
7 Hours is fine.
Anything thats 5 or under is unacceptable IMO.
Maybe if you crank the difficulty up you could get it to 8 hours.
Anything thats 5 or under is unacceptable IMO.
Maybe if you crank the difficulty up you could get it to 8 hours.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
I do not care how long the game is, as long as it needs to be.
I just want the game to be GOOD that is all.
I just want the game to be GOOD that is all
.TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Options, I guess. The choice to go a linear path or go off and do a bunch of other missions.REMEMBER CITADEL said:
But it's based on a book so I guess they went with this story-focused game.
I don't care about length either, it's just that I thought it was a different kind of game.The Dutch Slayer said:I do not care how long the game is, as long as it needs to be.
I just want the game to be GOOD that is all
Not really in the mood for a straight shooter right now. Ah well, I'll get it down the line.
Just to repeat an earlier post - time-wise, the studio speed run is around the 7 hour mark. We'd expect any first time player on Normal difficulty to take around 10 hours.
Plus there's a lot of replay potential to the game...
GamePro Germany's actual written review was in the same issue that the video review was cover-mounted on. They gave it 86%
Plus there's a lot of replay potential to the game...
GamePro Germany's actual written review was in the same issue that the video review was cover-mounted on. They gave it 86%
KefkaTaran
Member
I think this game's going to end up surprising people.
In a good way.
its all about replay value anyways. if its a fun game with re-playability then shorter is almost always better imo.
even 7 hrs for a speed run is too long for a game with good replay value. for some reason Resident Evil games are coming to mind while im typing this.
short length complaints in single player games are silly. (if its not an RPG)
even 7 hrs for a speed run is too long for a game with good replay value. for some reason Resident Evil games are coming to mind while im typing this.
short length complaints in single player games are silly. (if its not an RPG)
Templar Wizard
Member
Bi50N said:
Bi50n, forget about the discussion about the length, just because a reviewer played it fast on easy...well it doesnt mean too much.
I want to know more about the 3d support!
aaaaaaaaaaaa7654
Member
Do you know when the steam store issues will be fixed ?Bi50N said:
wormstrangler
Banned
Smokey said:
No, it's not my opinion. It's fact
Where's this $60 coming from? I paid $50 and got a free copy of Red Faction:Guerllia.
The game could be 4 hours long and I'd still be happy (as long as it's good, like Ep1/Ep2, etc).
I love short, replayable (fun) games.
Lostconfused
Member
Which still gives you good positional audio if its done right.wmat said:
wormstrangler said:No, it's not my opinion. It's fact
Where's this $60 coming from? I paid $50 and got a free copy of Red Faction:Guerllia.
The game could be 4 hours long and I'd still be happy (as long as it's good, like Ep1/Ep2, etc).
I love short, replayable (fun) games.
I agree with you but Max Payne 1 and 2 are better examples to put here
, since they are awesome short full games game not just episodes/extra like HL Ep1+2.
wolfmat
Confirmed Asshole
Yeah, certainly. But you won't get far beyond OpenAL's stereo capabilities, and the difference between that and a full-blown 7.1 setup is remarkable, to say the least.Lostconfused said:
Going by what we can hear in that preview, it seems like they've recorded some samples with 2 mics, particularly those that are always at the same location relative to the listener (player reloading, for example). So actually, headphones might be the ultimate choice if you go stereo.
I myself have no choice anyway, I haven't jumped onto the more-than-stereo bandwagon yet (and do not intend to).
Lostconfused
Member
In the end though it really comes down to what you have and what you can hear. The comment "surround is a must" is just needles hyperbole though instead of simply mentioning the quality and the importance of sound.wmat said:
Edit: Guess I misread it. Nevermind then. I guess I'll just tone it down to "play it with something better than stereo" is vague and doesn't tell you much.
New pcgh exclusive tech interview with Chief Technical Officer Oles Shishkovstov:
PCGH: You announced that for Metro 2033 you programmed a brand new engine. Do you develop the engine code from scratch or can some remains of code from the latest iteration of the X-Ray Engine be found in your new base technology?
Oles Shishkovstov: Definitely from scratch. Knowing X-Ray architecture (which happened to be designed by me as well in 2001-2002), it became apparent that it just doesn't scale into the future. The weakest points of X-Ray were its inherent inability to be multi-threaded, the error-prone networking model, and simply awful resource and memory management which prohibited any kind of streaming or simply keeping the working set small enough for (back then) "next-gen consoles.
So we've started from a clean sheet of paper + a bunch of middleware solutions to hook things up relatively quickly.
PCGH: Why did you decide against licensing a commercial product like Unreal Engine 3 or even the X-Ray Engine that quit a few members of you team are familiar working with? Why was it necessary to develop your own in-house technology and why is it tailored to the needs of the title?
Oles Shishkovstov: Actually at some point we've thought about licensing UE3 (X-Ray was clearly out of the question). After evaluating all pros and cons we've found that it was not as good as advertised, it was too bloated and too "old-school. And the worst of all - it demanded a lot more people and their time to get simple things done. And we became really confident we'll make a better engine/development environment in every aspect.
For the complete interview visit http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,706182/Exclusive-tech-interview-on-Metro-2033/News/
PCGH: You announced that for Metro 2033 you programmed a brand new engine. Do you develop the engine code from scratch or can some remains of code from the latest iteration of the X-Ray Engine be found in your new base technology?
Oles Shishkovstov: Definitely from scratch. Knowing X-Ray architecture (which happened to be designed by me as well in 2001-2002), it became apparent that it just doesn't scale into the future. The weakest points of X-Ray were its inherent inability to be multi-threaded, the error-prone networking model, and simply awful resource and memory management which prohibited any kind of streaming or simply keeping the working set small enough for (back then) "next-gen consoles.
So we've started from a clean sheet of paper + a bunch of middleware solutions to hook things up relatively quickly.
PCGH: Why did you decide against licensing a commercial product like Unreal Engine 3 or even the X-Ray Engine that quit a few members of you team are familiar working with? Why was it necessary to develop your own in-house technology and why is it tailored to the needs of the title?
Oles Shishkovstov: Actually at some point we've thought about licensing UE3 (X-Ray was clearly out of the question). After evaluating all pros and cons we've found that it was not as good as advertised, it was too bloated and too "old-school. And the worst of all - it demanded a lot more people and their time to get simple things done. And we became really confident we'll make a better engine/development environment in every aspect.
For the complete interview visit http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,706182/Exclusive-tech-interview-on-Metro-2033/News/
I have no real problem with the campaign being around 7 hours if that is true, since I believe that's a good length for an action game if it has no RPG elements.
Also, combined with the fact that the game is $49.99 at release in 2010 lets me forgive any sort of grievances I would normally have with the length.
Also, combined with the fact that the game is $49.99 at release in 2010 lets me forgive any sort of grievances I would normally have with the length.
Templar Wizard said:
Ok, a quote from the ever-exuberant Oles, the Chief Technical Officer at 4A Games and general programming genius behind both the X-Ray and 4A Engine who said this in a recent interview...
"Playing the game under DX11 in 3D Stereo is just mind-blowing, it's much, much more amazing than watching Avatar in IMAX."
So, at a guess, that makes it a 10 on your scale?
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,706182/Exclusive-tech-interview-on-Metro-2033/News/