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Metro 2033
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Neuromancer
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As much as I like open world games, it would be pretty boring if that's all there were.Truant said:
not sure if you guys've seen the B-roll HD footage they've put on here but they look amazing, as usual. Some cool setpieces in there, might be a bit spoilery though so be warned: http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/videos/view/1100/Metro-2033-The-Last-Refuge.html
aaaaaaaaaaaa7654
Member
The buy button on Steam has disappeared, the game is also missing from the "coming soon" list 
I think it might just be the new UI though
I think it might just be the new UI though
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, some of you are taking the marketing comments the wrong way. The reviewer was saying he hopes the game is successful, but that the marketing for it sucks. Outside of GAF I really haven't seen anything about the game, so I'd tend to agree.
But, I think most video game marketing sucks...I'm a little biased.
Also, a reviewer pointing out that the game is not open world ... isn't that reviewers are supposed to do? Give out information about games so people can make purchasing decisions? In this thread alone, there are tons of people HAPPY that it's a more linear game, thereby justifying the comment. He stated a fact, people. This isn't politics...you're still supposed to be allowed to state objective facts about games without riling people up, right?
But, I think most video game marketing sucks...I'm a little biased.
Also, a reviewer pointing out that the game is not open world ... isn't that reviewers are supposed to do? Give out information about games so people can make purchasing decisions? In this thread alone, there are tons of people HAPPY that it's a more linear game, thereby justifying the comment. He stated a fact, people. This isn't politics...you're still supposed to be allowed to state objective facts about games without riling people up, right?
Tokubetsu
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WanderingWind said:
It's bad when it's listed as CON (Not that he should list it as a positive..but don't align it with something negative). I have no problem with reviewers stating facts.
Watching MSXBOX's broll footage...yep, now I have to get this day one. I'll probably never beat it if it gets to scary but fuck, I'm such a sucker for that kind of setting.
aaaaaaaaaaaa7654
Member
There's definitely something wrong with the Steam store, Metro 2033 isn't on the coming soon list and when I find it in the search there's no purchase button and no release date.
This seems to only be an issue with the UK store
This seems to only be an issue with the UK store
aaaaaaaaaaaa7654
Member
panda21 said:
You could Pre-Order it a couple days ago, and you can still do in NA, but there seems to be a bug with the UK store, unless they've taken it down for pre-order but that doesn't make sense to take it off completely
Metro 2033 video review from GamePro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA1rZjbPwQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA1rZjbPwQ4
It's not that the marketing for the game is bad, you guys just need to realize that just like in every industry, there are high profile releases, and lower profile releases.
Metro 2033 is very much the equivalent of a lower budget movie, with a release who's success is dependent more on quality reviews and word of mouth.
Metro 2033 is very much the equivalent of a lower budget movie, with a release who's success is dependent more on quality reviews and word of mouth.
WanderingWind
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WrikaWrek said:
You know how a low profile game becomes a high profile game? Good marketing. That's exactly why Metro is a "low profile" game. Crappy marketing.
Neuromancer
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Marketing takes $$$. THQ isn't the richest publisher around.WanderingWind said:
WanderingWind
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Neuromancer said:
It really doesn't take that much, actually. It's not exactly like they have to pay for the type of advertising that Dante's Inferno had, and THQ may not be EA or Activision, but they've got plenty of cash. It's just bad marketing, period.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Fredescu said:
Oh, how cute. I guess you must work for THQ. I can't see any other reason why you'd throw out asinine personal insults (oh, look, he got my name wrong! Why not just go all out and call me BreakingWind! Moron.) at somebody pointing out a fact.
You can't say Metro is getting the attention it deserves. That's a fact. But your argument is that they've positioned this as a lower budget release. Well, considering you work for THQ, I won't bother saying you're wrong. Clearly, you must know this. Of course, if their (your?) goal is to not sell as many copies as possible, they're obviously on the right track.
Oh, and the ridiculous "they're not rich" argument holds no weight, either. It's not like THQ is a basement programming developer. They're a publicly traded company worth millions. They've got the money, they've just chosen not to spend it trying to sell the game. That's entirely indefensible in today's gaming market.
A direct quote from the CEO:WanderingWind said:
"I think we've got a real sleeper coming with Metro 2033. It's a really interesting game. Not everyone will love it and we know that. And one of the great things about a game like that is that it's being developed in the Ukraine so our development costs are lower and we don't need a huge hit to do well. I think that's the model for the future. With games like that and our Montreal studio, the idea is to still deliver quality to the gaming audience, but not having to spend $30 million dollars to get there. So we think Metro 2033 will find an audience."
Source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/106/1069731p1.html
Getting your name wrong was actually a genuine mistake. My apologies.
WanderingWind
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Fredescu said:
...and all I'm saying is that it's a bad business practice to not try to sell the game you've spent so much time creating.
I'm all for lowering gaming budgets, but if nobody knows about your game, it can't sell, which means even if it's fantastic, you may not get another chance.
Apology accepted. We all clearly want the game to succeed. I hope it sells despite what I'd consider sending the game out to die.
Lasthope106
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adelante said:
Someone translate this please!
What marketing efforts are you comparing it to? This thread was created by THQ and is being kept alive by THQ. There have been multiple interviews and video releases to the various enthusiast outlets recently. I have seen retail level marketing including displays and free pre order swag. People have even mentioned seeing TV ads, which I'm surprised even exist.WanderingWind said:
The marketing spend is clearly not on the level of a $30million+ game, but without comparing awareness statistics to dollars spent I don't think you're in a position to call the marketing "bad" and to say they're "not trying". When THQ have said that this is not big budget game and it is "not for everyone", sales versus sales expectations is the only measure of whether the marketing has been successful or not. For that information we'll have to wait, and then take their word for it when they provide it.
wormstrangler
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neva- said:
I noticed this too. I was just about to purchase it from the UK store when it disappeared on me. Not too much of a problem though, I just grabbed it for the US store, which works out to be $4 dearer I think. Hopefully means I also get it 3 days earlier.
Neuromancer
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:lol @ armchair marketing guru!WanderingWind said:
Look, THQ is doing what they can with a modest budget. They seem to make an OK amount of money too (see: sequels upcoming for Darksiders, Red Faction, Saints Row, etc). I'd let them worry about it.
WanderingWind
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Neuromancer said:
...really? So, on a video game forum, where thousands of posts daily are made discussing and debating the decisions of developers, you use that as an argument? Do you also lol at" armchair developers" in a Too Human thread or "armchair art designers" in a Rob Liefield sucks thread, or "armchair politician" in the PolitiGaf thread? The argument that you can't critique unless you're in that business has never been valid.
Besides, I do work in marketing, and have a Bachelor's in marketing and public relations. It's not the be-all, end-all when talking about marketing - but it's just enough to be able to identify a half-assed effort when I see it.
Case in point: On this page, it's already been admitted that they're trying to spend as little as possible in marketing. That's certainly their call to make...but it's one that has almost never worked. The Demon's Souls of the world are the exception to the rule.
It's a crowded game market and an exceptionally crowded month. FFXIII, GoWIII, Bad Company 2, Yakuza 3, Just Cause 2...crazy month to release a "small market" game with limited marketing. I mean, even this thread was made less than 5 months ago, and that's the first pretty much anybody heard about it.
But, once again, I hope that despite all of this, the game is successful. I've already pre-ordered it. I just get pissed when I see a game that so many people put so much time into, only to have a lazy-ass publisher not promote it properly.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19517057&postcount=149
Unregistered007
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DennisK4 said:
Bullshitting 101. Thankyou.
derFeef said:
Fixed.
BTW anyone get the feeling that neofolk would've been a great choice for the soundtrack? the depressive post-apocalyptic atmosphere of the game seems perfect for this.
Also the story is really interesting and sadly reflects a possible future situation in Russia as long as politics go.
WanderingWind said:
Marketers think: how can I create an effective advertising push to maximize the sales of a product?
Economists and business people think: does an additional $5 million in advertising costs give us back that cost plus 10% over the next three months? No? Okay, our level of advertising is fine.
WanderingWind
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FLEABttn said:
Well, that's pushing the discussion to the extreme. Not every marketing push costs $5 million. But yeah, that is the discussion. I don't believe they've spent enough in pushing the game, or if they have spent a lot, they've spent it in the wrong areas.
But the proof comes out in the end. If the game is good and has solid reviews and doesn't sell, that's 9 out of 10 times the fault of the marketing team.
Templar Wizard
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I want to know more about the 3d vision support.
is it going to be the total goat-fuck that bioshock2 was, ie:after 1 month still no real 3d profile, or will it be more like arkham?:
100% out of the box 3d.
have you guys tested the printing copy with the 3d vision glasses?
is it going to be the total goat-fuck that bioshock2 was, ie:after 1 month still no real 3d profile, or will it be more like arkham?:
100% out of the box 3d.
have you guys tested the printing copy with the 3d vision glasses?
Neuromancer
Member
Mostly it's just because I find business/marketing talk onerous, especially in a topic like this where we should be talking about the game. Also I give the benefit of the doubt to THQ who have been pretty successful lately. I think they know what they're doing.WanderingWind said:
Templar Wizard
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Bi50N said:Metro 2033 is currently NVIDIA's poster child for their 3D Vision tech. It's been optimised to look incredible, and it looks better than any 3D Vision title to date.
The latter comment in my humble opinion of course
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but before, i decide to banana cream all over myself, could we have a little bit of benchmarking?
if batman:aa is an 8
avatar a 9
crysis a 1
bad company a 5
bioshock2 a 5
where does metro land?
also, can we adjust the convergence? or is it locked in like re5?